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    I always wondered what happened with this guy. He was a "feel good" story when he came out and got lots of attention and ink. Last year, he kind of fell off the map. I caught a Bolts game last year and he barely played in it. This is some info I glommed off the net about the big Russian...

    Igor Olshansky
    Born: May 3, 1982
    Dnepropetrovsk, Ukraine
    Height: 6-6
    Weight: 309 lbs. Age: 26
    Pos: DE
    Experience: 5 years
    College: Oregon
    Drafted: Year:2004 Round:2 Pick:3, Chargers

    Expert's Take Olshansky is the starting RDE in the Chargers' 3-4 defense. He contributes mainly in regular situations, but also rush inside in sub. He has been a starter since the day he was drafted in the second round in 2004. In three of his four NFL seasons, the Chargers have ranked in the league's top seven in rushing defense. He is a blue collar type football player. He has good size and strength for the position. He plays hard on every snap and is very competitive. He's at his best versus the run and he is the Chargers' most consistent run defender. He has good recognition and play awareness to blocking patterns. Olshansky has good, strong hands with the ability to control blockers at the point of contact. He plays with good pad level and leverage. He can hold up at the point of attack and displays good shed ability. He is an explosive tackler who can find the ball, but he lacks great quickness off the ball and can be sealed off at times. As a pass-rusher, he shows good effort and motor. He has been productive with his rip move to the outside, while continuing to work up field. He doesn't have the closing speed and quickness to be an effective rusher off the edge. He lacks counters and the ability to redirect.

    Combine numbers
    His combine numbers are
    4.98 40
    41 bench press fourth best at that time in history
    29 on the wonderlic

    Olshansky was a #2 pick. He seemed to be progressing nicely in his career and had a solid season in '07. He also picked up a rep as a lazy and indifferent player in practice. He has a good motor, but never picked up a lot of tricks that would assist him in raising his game. Igor also developed a "big mouth" label. Writers flocked to him after games for his tendency to talk about things most players would remain mum about. He also shot his mouth off on several occasions when the Chargers played in big games, including calling the Patriots "scared" of the Bolts prior to a late season game. There was some talk of resentment by teammates of Olshansky's love of the press. He was included in many articles, replete with photos of his impressive power lifter physique and numerous tattoos. This did little to endear himself to fellow ballplayers.

    Olshansky was also a whipping boy for new DC Ron Rivera, who replaced Ted Cottrell in mid-year. Olshansky experienced reduced playing time and his public pronouncements also dropped off considerably when Rivera took over the D coaching job.

    He was rated a "Good Starter" by one of the scouting sites I looked at. They also commented his play falls off when faced against an elite starter.

  • #2
    I can his name on the "ring of honor" now.
    Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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    • #3
      He's a guy that needs a lot of coaching attention. He started playing football really late in his life relative to other pro football players, and his early coaching wasn't very good, football isn't nearly as instinctive with him because of it. He's not the kind of guy that's going to thrive under a schemer type coach or motivator type coach. He needs to be in a teacher type coach environment to thrive. As a coordinator that is one of Wade's forte's, which explains his diminishing play since Wade left. Capers is a teacher type coach, as is Trgovac.

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      • #4
        I am really on the fence about this guy.

        We don't have enough lineman for the 3-4 as it stands. The FA class is still in the "stupid money" phase. Should we pay him stupid money and come out with an average NFL starter?

        I really don't know and have no idea if his addition would help us or kill us when our other guys need to be resigned?

        Olshansky has some talent and skills. He also will never be a big star or an impact player.

        We have the money to get him, but the impact his salary would have might really hurt the team in the future. He'll make money money than Cole and is a better player, but what to do, I dunno.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by KYPack
          I am really on the fence about this guy.

          We don't have enough lineman for the 3-4 as it stands. The FA class is still in the "stupid money" phase. Should we pay him stupid money and come out with an average NFL starter?

          I really don't know and have no idea if his addition would help us or kill us when our other guys need to be resigned?

          Olshansky has some talent and skills. He also will never be a big star or an impact player.

          We have the money to get him, but the impact his salary would have might really hurt the team in the future. He'll make money money than Cole and is a better player, but what to do, I dunno.
          I'm on the fence about him as well. When I click on rotoworld about this guy and there's two posts about him in 5 years of play in San Diego, this tells me he's not all that special. I've also read about his lack of motivation at times. Not really what we need. I'm all for giving the guy a look, but definitely not someone I'd want Ted to overpay for. It's funny how you don't hear anything about other teams being interested as well. If he was that solid in San Diego I'd like to think they would have made an effort to re-sign the guy.
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          • #6
            Hmm, I'm of the opposite thought on this guy. The more I hear about him the more I think he'd thrive in GB under Capers.

            We have veteran leadership/work ethic (Kampman, Harris, Woodson, etc.) on defense and we have a teaching type DC in Capers.

            I look at SD and since Seau and Harrison left, who is there is signature player - Merriman. A great individual player but not the brains of the outfit out there on the field and mentoring others.

            I think if the Pack signs him they end up with a solid end for at least downs 1 and 2. We'd then go with Cullen, Ryan and Igor with the ability to mix in Jolly and Harrell (if he proves healthy).
            60% of the time it works every time.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by imscott72
              Originally posted by KYPack
              I am really on the fence about this guy.

              We don't have enough lineman for the 3-4 as it stands. The FA class is still in the "stupid money" phase. Should we pay him stupid money and come out with an average NFL starter?

              I really don't know and have no idea if his addition would help us or kill us when our other guys need to be resigned?

              Olshansky has some talent and skills. He also will never be a big star or an impact player.

              We have the money to get him, but the impact his salary would have might really hurt the team in the future. He'll make money money than Cole and is a better player, but what to do, I dunno.
              I'm on the fence about him as well. When I click on rotoworld about this guy and there's two posts about him in 5 years of play in San Diego, this tells me he's not all that special. I've also read about his lack of motivation at times. Not really what we need. I'm all for giving the guy a look, but definitely not someone I'd want Ted to overpay for. It's funny how you don't hear anything about other teams being interested as well. If he was that solid in San Diego I'd like to think they would have made an effort to re-sign the guy.
              He is a 5 tech DE and doesn't project well as a possible 4-3 DE, 3 tech DT or 1 tech DT like Canty did. 4-3 teams rightfully are showing no interest. His value is to 3-4 teams.

              Dallas is broke.
              NE has no need
              Pit doesn't sign FA's
              SD needs the money for Merriman and doesn't have a lot of cap
              Den is taking the quantity over quality approach and has blown most of their cap
              Ari needs the money for Boldin and Warner
              Cle went speding crazy on their line last year
              In Mia, Parcells prefers the draft, and they have a decent line
              Balt is low in $$, and is trying to keep their LB's, plus have a good line
              The 49er's have solid DE's and much bigger needs elsewhere

              There isn't much of a market for him.

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              • #8
                So..wait a week, let him dangle, start casual conversations, etc. etc...
                "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                KYPack

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                • #9
                  Atlanta might have an interest.

                  TT seems to use Fritz's strategy.

                  ID a lower tier guy you may use and leverage the lack of league interest. Chillar and Igor are kind of similar guys, although Chillar was a lot more unheralded coming into FA.

                  I agree with the fact that that he is green despite being in the league for years and still needs to be coached up. Rivera saw this as a negative. Capers is a great teacher/coach and Trgo would work with this guy I think Olshansky knows he needs to get smart, his first years have not shown the development everyone expected.

                  Another negative you hear about the guy is that he is too in love with the weight room. He lifts like a power lifter/body builder. This gets him heat with the other players. There was an incident in his first couple years when he had bad games. The guy hit the weights like crazy, but still had some weak games. The players realized he was training for a magazine article that came out and not to develop his play.

                  As Waldo pointed out, Wade Phillips got him going and Igor had his best season for the dough boy. Capers and Wade are very similar coaches, able to use a guy's strengths and get him involved in the defense.

                  Maybe he is a fit, but he might be a flop.

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                  • #10
                    Thus he is still on the market, and can be had for what passes in the NFL as "cheap," but which would be, for you and me, tremendous wealth.

                    Well, maybe not for you. You started the premier chicken franchise, after all.
                    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                    KYPack

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                    • #11
                      I like the sound of the analysis of the other teams' needs.

                      I don't have a very high opinion of Olshansky, and I don't see Packer DL needs as nearly as critical as some people. Just the same, we could use Olshansky if he came cheap enough. I just don't see him as much if any better than Jolly and Harrell.
                      What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                      • #12
                        Is he Packer People?
                        C.H.U.D.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Freak Out
                          Is he Packer People?
                          Well, he's not hurt, so that helps. But he has a reputation for being "indiffernt" during practice and not the hardest worker.

                          But, hey, what does Packer people really mean anyhow.

                          One could make the case that "surviving to the second week of free agency" is the biggest criteria of a "Packer Person". :P

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                          • #14
                            I wouldn't call Olshansky a "Russian" to his face. He was born in the Ukraine.

                            On the West Coast, we have a number of legal immigrants from the former satellite countries like the Ukraine, Belarus, etc. which was once ruled by the former Soviet Union and/or influenced by Russia. They bristle at being labeled "Russians."

                            Despite his Ducks coaches advice, Olshansky turned pro early. While he was a very good Division I college DE, we was still raw when he turned pro. I think his declaring early hurt his development as a pro.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by retailguy
                              But he has a reputation for being "indiffernt" during practice and not the hardest worker.
                              Interestingly enough, so does Canty, the guy a lot of people critical of Thompson are railing on us missing out on.
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