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  • #46
    Originally posted by imscott72
    I'm done with this argument. Clearly you're going to stand by your point despite the fact you keep clinging to what TT "almost" did. One pick for player trade and he's right with all the other GM's? Whatever man..
    No, he is not "right with all other GM's." You are putting words in my mouth and introducing the straw man. I am responding to your position that he hates to trade draft picks. I am not arguing about whether he is a good GM, whether he should have traded for more, ect...

    Facts are facts. He has been willing to part with draft picks for players. Accept it. I promise that you will sleep better at night.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by SkinBasket
      Originally posted by Partial
      It seems to me like Thompson settles for the set of steak knives instead of the Cadillac El Dorado.

      The only thing that matters is getting them to sign on the line which is dotted. Anything else is just details and making excuses for failure.
      Sounds a lot like you would rather we have Snyder or Al Davis signing players for us. They've demonstrated just how successful the sign the big name at all costs approach can be.
      No, thats not what I'm saying at all. I want us to actually close a deal for once. Randy Moss? Excuses. Jason Taylor? Excuses. Tony Gonzo? Excuses.

      Ever since this regime has been in here they've taken their sweet time rebuilding. We went to the championship game, and then what? We fell back down to earth and underachieved, so what is that worth? Not much.

      One has to wonder what the heck is going through the mind of the coaching staff right now. They must be freaking out knowing they have 4 DL on the roster, and 3 have shown to be injury prone.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Partial
        Originally posted by SkinBasket
        Originally posted by Partial
        It seems to me like Thompson settles for the set of steak knives instead of the Cadillac El Dorado.

        The only thing that matters is getting them to sign on the line which is dotted. Anything else is just details and making excuses for failure.
        Sounds a lot like you would rather we have Snyder or Al Davis signing players for us. They've demonstrated just how successful the sign the big name at all costs approach can be.
        No, thats not what I'm saying at all. I want us to actually close a deal for once. Randy Moss? Excuses. Jason Taylor? Excuses. Tony Gonzo? Excuses.
        Now you're just being stupid again.
        "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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        • #49
          Originally posted by SkinBasket
          Originally posted by Partial
          Originally posted by SkinBasket
          Originally posted by Partial
          It seems to me like Thompson settles for the set of steak knives instead of the Cadillac El Dorado.

          The only thing that matters is getting them to sign on the line which is dotted. Anything else is just details and making excuses for failure.
          Sounds a lot like you would rather we have Snyder or Al Davis signing players for us. They've demonstrated just how successful the sign the big name at all costs approach can be.
          No, thats not what I'm saying at all. I want us to actually close a deal for once. Randy Moss? Excuses. Jason Taylor? Excuses. Tony Gonzo? Excuses.
          Now you're just being stupid again.
          How? Did he close any one of those deals? Scott Pioli gets that kind of stuff done. TT does not. Undeniable fact.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Partial
            Originally posted by SkinBasket
            Originally posted by Partial
            It seems to me like Thompson settles for the set of steak knives instead of the Cadillac El Dorado.

            The only thing that matters is getting them to sign on the line which is dotted. Anything else is just details and making excuses for failure.
            Sounds a lot like you would rather we have Snyder or Al Davis signing players for us. They've demonstrated just how successful the sign the big name at all costs approach can be.
            No, thats not what I'm saying at all. I want us to actually close a deal for once. Randy Moss? Excuses. Jason Taylor? Excuses. Tony Gonzo? Excuses.

            Ever since this regime has been in here they've taken their sweet time rebuilding. We went to the championship game, and then what? We fell back down to earth and underachieved, so what is that worth? Not much.

            One has to wonder what the heck is going through the mind of the coaching staff right now. They must be freaking out knowing they have 4 DL on the roster, and 3 have shown to be injury prone.
            Who in 2007 would have given up the 98 receptions that Moss made? Or the 23 touchdowns? Signing Moss wouldn't have added very many points to our 2007 offense if any.

            Signing Moss would have stopped the development of Gregg Jennings. We have a fantastic WR core for years to come because we didn't sign Moss.
            But Rodgers leads the league in frumpy expressions and negative body language on the sideline, which makes him, like Josh Allen, a unique double threat.

            -Tim Harmston

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Partial
              How? Did he close any one of those deals? Scott Pioli gets that kind of stuff done. TT does not. Undeniable fact.
              What about the Pittsburgh GM? There is more than one way to skin a cat. Of course, Thompson has about two years to prove he's worth keeping, but I'm okay with the way he goes about his business.
              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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              • #52
                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                Originally posted by Partial
                How? Did he close any one of those deals? Scott Pioli gets that kind of stuff done. TT does not. Undeniable fact.
                What about the Pittsburgh GM? There is more than one way to skin a cat. Of course, Thompson has about two years to prove he's worth keeping, but I'm okay with the way he goes about his business.
                I am, too, for the most part. Like I said, I wouldn't have paid Canty that much money either, but I do think they need to get a vet to play DE, whether its a cheap or expensive vet does not matter. Rooks typically take a year or two to get strong enough to play the run well, so I think a cheap vet is a better option.

                I don't think we need any blockbuster signings to compete next year. I think we just need some depth, or solid backups on the DL. If we can do this, I think we'll be alright and have a shot at the playoffs.

                I don't necessarily want TT out there making any crazy trades. But it worries me that when he has tried, he has failed.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Partial
                  I don't necessarily want TT out there making any crazy trades. But it worries me that when he has tried, he has failed.
                  In the examples you cite though, you have to sort of realize that Jason Taylor didn't help Washington any last year (he was hurt) and Gonzalez never got traded to anybody. Getting upset about not completing either of those deals is sort of like getting upset about not signing Justin Griffith in 2006.

                  I also want to point out, that with a sample size of 3, it is possible that there were legitimate excuses that justify each non-move. It does potentially establish the start of a trend, but that doesn't mean it necessarily does. If you promise to go to a baseball game with your buddies and one one occasion your car breaks down, another occasion you get jumped by thugs and end up in the ICU on the way there, and on one occasion the game gets rained out, it's not as though you deserve to get branded with the "unreliable" tag for this. Anybody saying "If you really wanted to go to that game, you would have prevented it from raining" is probably an idiot.
                  </delurk>

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Lurker64
                    Originally posted by Partial
                    I don't necessarily want TT out there making any crazy trades. But it worries me that when he has tried, he has failed.
                    In the examples you cite though, you have to sort of realize that Jason Taylor didn't help Washington any last year (he was hurt) and Gonzalez never got traded to anybody. Getting upset about not completing either of those deals is sort of like getting upset about not signing Justin Griffith in 2006.
                    The Packers would have gone to the SB in 2007 had they signed Justin Griffith.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Partial
                      I am, too, for the most part. Like I said, I wouldn't have paid Canty that much money either, but I do think they need to get a vet to play DE, whether its a cheap or expensive vet does not matter. Rooks typically take a year or two to get strong enough to play the run well, so I think a cheap vet is a better option.
                      My points are: 1) there appear to be several options available with Douglas, Holliday, Wright, the draft, etc., 2) we don't know what contact Thompson has had with those FAs. It could be that he has reached out to some of those guys and he feels they are all about equal, so he's in no rush to overpay one guy over the others.
                      "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by Partial
                        Originally posted by SkinBasket
                        Originally posted by Partial
                        Originally posted by SkinBasket
                        Originally posted by Partial
                        It seems to me like Thompson settles for the set of steak knives instead of the Cadillac El Dorado.

                        The only thing that matters is getting them to sign on the line which is dotted. Anything else is just details and making excuses for failure.
                        Sounds a lot like you would rather we have Snyder or Al Davis signing players for us. They've demonstrated just how successful the sign the big name at all costs approach can be.
                        No, thats not what I'm saying at all. I want us to actually close a deal for once. Randy Moss? Excuses. Jason Taylor? Excuses. Tony Gonzo? Excuses.
                        Now you're just being stupid again.
                        How? Did he close any one of those deals? Scott Pioli gets that kind of stuff done. TT does not. Undeniable fact.
                        The only undeniable fact is that you have no intention of discussing anything with any kind of intellectual honesty.
                        "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                        • #57
                          No, Skin, I would say thats you, as everyone else is actually, ya know, wait for it... wait for it... wait for it...

                          having a conversation.

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Partial
                            No, Skin, I would say thats you, as everyone else is actually, ya know, wait for it... wait for it... wait for it...

                            having a conversation.
                            Well to be true..you are right....a conversation..but it's true your biased hate for all things TT seems to make you a hater. I have no prob. with you as most do, cuz you seem to be a die-hard Pack fan which is coo, but your logic defies your statements, thus, those having a prob. with you.

                            Snake is a here-now type of guy. TT has done some good stuff in the draft and the jury is out. Those trades were all speculation as Snake acknowledges that.

                            So what moves should TT make now? FA is a farce with 5 big names for insane money and bunch of guys who make us marginally better (Bart Scott for 6 years 48 million ring my bell)...

                            Who makes us better? I'd rather resign our own for bargain prices.
                            Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Partial
                              Originally posted by SkinBasket
                              Originally posted by Partial
                              Originally posted by SkinBasket
                              Originally posted by Partial
                              It seems to me like Thompson settles for the set of steak knives instead of the Cadillac El Dorado.

                              The only thing that matters is getting them to sign on the line which is dotted. Anything else is just details and making excuses for failure.
                              Sounds a lot like you would rather we have Snyder or Al Davis signing players for us. They've demonstrated just how successful the sign the big name at all costs approach can be.
                              No, thats not what I'm saying at all. I want us to actually close a deal for once. Randy Moss? Excuses. Jason Taylor? Excuses. Tony Gonzo? Excuses.
                              Now you're just being stupid again.
                              How? Did he close any one of those deals? Scott Pioli gets that kind of stuff done. TT does not. Undeniable fact.
                              KC's GM last year upped the requirement 10 minutes before the deadline on Gonzo. You are retarded to blame TT for that one.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Partial
                                No, Skin, I would say thats you, as everyone else is actually, ya know, wait for it... wait for it... wait for it...

                                having a conversation.


                                Get back to me when you're not blaming Thompson for not signing every big name FA who YOU think makes the team better, some of whom had no intention of playing in GB. You're one of these people who thinks this is Madden Football and our GM can just go sign every FA available every year. The other 31 teams and the intentions of the players don't exist in your little bubble world except as CPU players who get to pick up your fantasy scraps.

                                The circumstances for each of those cases has been covered thoroughly. Calling them "excuses" for failing to bring the player to GB against their will or the will of their GM is just being absurd or fucking retarded. So yeah, you're having a "conversation," but your "conversation" might as well be about what color a unicorn's shit is after eating rainbows for how based in reality it is.
                                "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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