4 years later

[CaliforniaCheez]

When he was with the Packers he had one good year out of three.

That was the year Driver got injured early and Ferguson got injured later in the year(famous hit by Jaguars)

While I may say Walker has never been worth it. The best part of trading up to get Walker was a 5th round choice that came to the Packers.
That 5th round pick was Aaron Kampmann.

Though not technically correct, I prefer to think of Walker as part of the deal that brought Kampmann to the Packers.

Walker, traded to Denver on draft day, was replaced by Greg Jennings in the draft that day.

All in all the Packers manuevered around the Walker problem rather well.

[CaliforniaCheez]

Who was the last player outside of Sharper & Longwell who got let go and had a successful career? Maybe that isn't a good thing that when a player leaves the Packers they suck. Maybe that is keeping free agents away? Just a thought to get away from JH's freaky comments..

7th round pick Sowell had a good career with the Jets after being cut by the Packers.

[RashanGary]

And yeah, at 2 AM, I'd probably be more leery of a pimped out car full of white guys in Vegas than I would be of black guys. Maybe it's ignorant, but my initial thought was those guys were the stereotypical picture of organized crime; skin color, age, ride, everything was exactly as you'd expect it in a movie right down to the time and place. That is exactly how I picture a violent criminal. The reason I thought it was funny was because he actually got in that car (and didn't die so nothing tragic happened, just an ass beating). It's funny because he did the exact opposite of what anybody with any common sense would do and it turned out exactly as you would expect. Irony I guess.

[Patler]

Who was the last player outside of Sharper & Longwell who got let go and had a successful career? Maybe that isn't a good thing that when a player leaves the Packers they suck. Maybe that is keeping free agents away? Just a thought to get away from JH's freaky comments..

7th round pick Sowell had a good career with the Jets after being cut by the Packers.

I'm not sure I understand what is meant by "let go" or "successful career" but there are any number of guys who went elsewhere to start or play significant roles after having been released by the Packers or having had Packer contracts expire. Off the top of my head I can think of the following relatively recent Packers:

Mike Wahle
Hunter Hillenmeyer
Grady Jackson
Josh Bidwell
Na'ill Diggs
Vonta Leach
Frank Walker
Mark Roman
Paris Lenon
Vonnie Holliday
Kenny Peterson


Others who continue to receive pay checks in more limited roles include:
Marquand Manuel
Bubba Franks
Dave Tollefson
Chris White
Earl Cochran
Daniel Muir
Ingle Martin
JT O'Sullivan

I'm sure there are others, and there are many, many older ones from the late 1990s and early 2000s that could be named. These guys aren't much different than the run-of-the-mill FA so many fans are so anxious for the Packers to sign. They run the cross-section of free agency, from pro-bowlers, to starters, to primary backups, to roster fillers.

[DonHutson]

So the team he chose to bend over backwards to stay with is the Raiders?

If the straitjacket fits...

[Jimx29]

4 years later?




Here I thought you were commenting on my siggy

Wow..your sig demands attention as I didn't know that. Damn....

Glad I could of been of service

[bobblehead]

the 2 security cop-type dudes (don't know what they are called)

I like to call them toy soldiers...but that is just me.

[SnakeLH2006]

the 2 security cop-type dudes (don't know what they are called)

I like to call them toy soldiers...but that is just me.

LOL, well they DID have Tazers and Mace and looked REAL serious trying to find someone with a CB to call the real cops. My dickhead buddy asked if they had any Navy SEAL experience but got a nasty look. LOL. Now that is some good stuff if you ask me. I had tears running down my eyes as he kept grilling them about their "professional" background and if they were safe if we left the scene leaving them alone with the kamakazi crackie. Really fun stuff though.

Snake didn't care though as they saw the whole thing and said they would file assault charges on the crackie. Snake slithered on quickly as he was only pissed he dumped out half his $1 24 oz. Margarita on the Fremont pavement. Luckily the Golden Nugget was 1 min. away. So everything was OK.........except Mararitas were $2 there. Fucking crackheads I tell ya.

Bottom Line: Wonderlic scores matter in real life, but the average Joe is pretty safe in Vegas. Just don't go all 2pac and flash gang signs out the limo yelling, "THUG LIFE", and I think you MAY survive. JWalk is a trip for real.

[Lurker64]

Snake-

I think, potentially, an important difference between your Vegas experience and Walker's, is that I doubt you go around spraying people with expensive champagne from the VIP balcony. A lot of guys will get pissed off at you when you make them wet and sticky, some bad people might get pissed off enough to do something about it that you're not going to like.

I don't think "don't spray strangers with champagne, dumbfuck" is a hard rule to follow and following it will probably avoid some hardship for anybody who follows it.

[SnakeLH2006]

Snake-

I think, potentially, an important difference between your Vegas experience and Walker's, is that I doubt you go around spraying people with expensive champagne from the VIP balcony. A lot of guys will get pissed off at you when you make them wet and sticky, some bad people might get pissed off enough to do something about it that you're not going to like.

I don't think "don't spray strangers with champagne, dumbfuck" is a hard rule to follow and following it will probably avoid some hardship for anybody who follows it.

LOL, very true advice..though Snake has been VIP in Rain and a few other Vegas clubs (real easy/cheap to get access if you know the scene), but then again I don't do retarded ass shit to get gangsters pissed off. Edit...not really gangsters, but thugs with guns....as that shit is real and have seen it.

JWalk is a dumbass for real. Never met him and don't want to, but if that is what he did, I'd fuck him up too, just not with an UZI spray.

It's pretty easy. Anytime, but esp. in a foreign environment, respect those you don't know and don't do anything to get shot/fucked up, etc. JWalk is obviously a moron (Wonderlic, Packer comments, etc.) so most of us will be safe avoiding moronic types of behavior to get beat down in Vegas...I'm looking forward to my 2009 trip shortly. LOL

[bobblehead]

I think the final word on the JWalk story was that he thought these guys were ok dudes. He had hung with them some and they buddied up to him to gain his trust before they dragged him to a back allley and cracked his orbital socket.

While I would agree that spraying people with champagne could get your ass kicked, in the Vegas club scene if Floyd Mayweather is spraying idiots run to get in the stream so they can tell their friends how awesome it was in vegas. "Yea dude, we were at Pure and Floyd Mayweather blew like 10 large on Dom and sprayed it all over us...it was awesome". Not my reaction, but I'm not a clone as Jim Rome would call them.

[pbmax]

I haven't run the numbers, but because of his trade, subsequent new Bronco contract and now two Raider contracts, Walker has received quite a bit of upfront money. He hasn't gotten anywhere close to the "advertised" contract money (esp on the Bronco deal and, obvs. the first Raider deal) but he has cashed some nice checks.

So his business decisions have paid off, but his other decisions (including hooking up with the Raiders) and another injury have cost him dearly. I thought he made an unwise business move to force the trade praying for a new contract with the Broncos. But that looks like genius compared to the rest of his struggles.

[Patler]

I haven't run the numbers, but because of his trade, subsequent new Bronco contract and now two Raider contracts, Walker has received quite a bit of upfront money. He hasn't gotten anywhere close to the "advertised" contract money (esp on the Bronco deal and, obvs. the first Raider deal) but he has cashed some nice checks.

So his business decisions have paid off, but his other decisions (including hooking up with the Raiders) and another injury have cost him dearly. I thought he made an unwise business move to force the trade praying for a new contract with the Broncos. But that looks like genius compared to the rest of his struggles.

As near as I can figure with a few minutes checking, it looks like Walker has received about $22M in bonuses already paid, and about $3M in salaries since leaving GB. Add in about another $6M in bonuses and salaries from the Packers, and the kid has done pretty well for his 267 reception, 4,000 yard, 7 year career.

[RashanGary]

You know, there were so many people so sure that TT screwed that up and forced Walker out of here. They didn't know exactly what went on behind closed doors, but they knew it was TT's doing and Javon was a decent guy.

Then, many of the same people know TT screwed up the FAvre incident, but Favre is just holding back because he doesn't want to hurt TT. Outside of not bringing in the players Favre told TT to get, there is something else Favre is just not telling so he doesn't have to hurt Ted in the public eye.

At some point it gets ridiculous. It shows that people really will believe whatever they want to believe with no regard for reality.

[red]

You know, there were so many people so sure that TT screwed that up and forced Walker out of here. They didn't know exactly what went on behind closed doors, but they knew it was TT's doing and Javon was a decent guy.

Then, many of the same people know TT screwed up the FAvre incident, but Favre is just holding back because he doesn't want to hurt TT. Outside of not bringing in the players Favre told TT to get, there is something else Favre is just not telling so he doesn't have to hurt Ted in the public eye.

At some point it gets ridiculous. It shows that people really will believe whatever they want to believe with no regard for reality.

honestly, i think most of the people on here were on tt's side on the walker fiasco

walker was public enemy #1 during that whole mess

actually, was tis site even here during the walker sage? i think i was at pc for that one