How far do you realistically see us going this year?

[bobblehead]

I just can't ever buy that, Tex. The game, to me, is won in the trenches, on both sides.

Those great Packer teams from the Wolf era had incredible offensive lines.

Brady won a bunch of Owls with subpar skill players, a good OLine and a top 5 defense. Same goes for Mahomes. Same for Hurts now (Ok, they have better skill positions and a MONSTER OL, but Hurts is very average). Thats the recipe to win championships. High powered offense and a sieve defense has never been the model to win it all. And I can't recall many champions with a piss poor OL. But name me the top WRs on Brady championship teams. Mahomes? Yep, about what I thought.

[Fritz]

I can't think of a team with a high-powered offense but a sieve for a defense that has won it all, but I can think of a Packer team that fit that description perfectly: the 2011 edition. One of the best offenses, maybe, in Packer history, but a defense like slut - they let everyone score. Easily.

I'd say your formula is correct: have a very good defense and a good offensive line, then a QB who is very good. You can get by with mediocre skill players on offense outside the QB.

Look at Seattle last year. Look at the Ravens in 2000. The losing team in the Super Bowl has averaged 19.7 points in that contest since 1999.

[Joemailman]

The 2009 Saints were 25th in the NFL in yards allowed, but were 2nd in turnovers forced. Their offense was #1 in points scored and yards gained. In the Super Bowl their defense gave up 432 yards, but returned an INT for the clinching TD.