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  • #16
    Originally posted by Bretsky
    I'd agree with Justin; TT's inactivity in free agency IMO lends more logic to continuing to add quantity in the draft knowing that he will hit on some and not on others. I'd be surprised if we didn't end with 9-10 picks.
    Uh, B, we have 9 picks right now, so he doesn't have to trade down to get that many picks. I like the depth of the 1st round, so I'd like to see TT trade down to the middle of the 1st, and then package a 2nd and 3rd(from the Jets) to move back into the latter part of the 1st round.
    I can't run no more
    With that lawless crowd
    While the killers in high places
    Say their prayers out loud
    But they've summoned, they've summoned up
    A thundercloud
    They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Fritz
      Originally posted by wist43
      I have no problem trading down necessarily, just depends on who's there, what the state of your team is, etc....

      A GM has to have a lot of faith in his assessment of a player to move up for him, if for no other reason than there is sure to be a lot of pressure from the fan base and media for that player to pan out... not to mention the salary cap implications of having to pay a higher 1st round pick.

      TT feels his odds are better by throwing 12,765,349 darts at the board every April, and then hope one of 'em turns out.

      In the end, we end up with one impact player in 4 years (Jennings), and a bunch of JAG's.
      As Tex wrote to me, I was with you until that last line. One impact player in four years? So a Pro-Bowl breakout year by Collins doesn't qualify him as an "impact" player?

      Blackmon's the first guy since Allen Rossum to return something for a touchdown - no impact player as a returner?

      Dang, Wist.
      I'm still not a big Collins fan... made the occasional big play last year, but gave up a lot too. Misses too many tackles. He can still win me over if he were more consistent...

      Tough to tell though... that scheme was just junk. I hated it so much, that for me, it was painful to watch.
      wist

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      • #18
        Originally posted by wist43

        I'm still not a big Collins fan... made the occasional big play last year, but gave up a lot too. Misses too many tackles. He can still win me over if he were more consistent...

        Tough to tell though... that scheme was just junk. I hated it so much, that for me, it was painful to watch.
        I agree with this assessment. Consistency will be key.

        I had completely given up on Collins before last year. He seem unable to find the ball to the point of looking like a defensive version of Troy Williamson. Last year, however, he made some nice plays on the ball. I hope he continues to improve and surprises me again.

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        • #19
          Since Thompson doesn't appear to be changing his free agent strategy very much, why would he change his drafting strategy. He wants to get players through the draft; therefore he has to get as many good players in to compete for positions. He will trade down if he can get the player highest on his board at the position he trades to - and will pick up that extra pick. No matter what anyone says about the blue chippers going high in the draft, the likelihood of getting a contributing starter is roughly the same through the first several rounds for any player. It's a crap shoot with odds below 40% for a pick working out. The more picks the better your chances. A top 5 or 10 pick has a pretty good chance of being a bust - or just average. Just look at the year in which A.J. Hawk was drafted.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by wist43
            I have no problem trading down necessarily, just depends on who's there, what the state of your team is, etc....

            A GM has to have a lot of faith in his assessment of a player to move up for him, if for no other reason than there is sure to be a lot of pressure from the fan base and media for that player to pan out... not to mention the salary cap implications of having to pay a higher 1st round pick.

            TT feels his odds are better by throwing 12,765,349 darts at the board every April, and then hope one of 'em turns out.

            In the end, we end up with one impact player in 4 years (Jennings), and a bunch of JAG's.
            LOL...I agreed to the whole thing, and laughed, then I read the last statement and shotgunned 2 beers after coming back to the reality of it.

            I have no prob. trading down, but damn if many NFL teams hit on mid 1st round picks for studs yearly..I really hope we can get a top-notcher this year for once in the first. Good players are fine, but to be elite you need elite players. God I would love a B.J. though.
            Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.

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