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    For what it's worth.

    For a variety of reasons, some prominent contenders from the 2007 season fell on hard times in 2008. Five such teams might be primed for a major turnaround in 2009.


    Green Bay Packers

    Quarterback Aaron Rodgers did a better-than-adequate job stepping in for Brett Favre amid a tsunami of controversy. Rodgers should be better in his second year as a starter. Right tackle Mark Tauscher, a solid nine-year veteran, is coming off knee surgery and is a free agent. The Packers have to address that situation, either by re-signing Tauscher if he's healthy or via trade, draft or free agency. Regardless, Green Bay needs to reinforce its offensive-line depth.

    The big issue is on defense, where the Packers were gashed on the ground and gave up nearly 24 points per game. Green Bay is switching to a 3-4 defense and has brought in Dom Capers, one of the best at coaching the scheme, to coordinate the transition. End Aaron Kampman is set to move to outside linebacker and be the primary edge rusher, but such a move isn't always smooth. The Packers have to add some outside linebackers and solidify their secondary, but most of the personnel is in place to make the change.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

  • #2
    Didn't read the article due to time contraints... only have time to argue on lunch hour now-a-days

    Nevertheless... I agree with the sentiment that the Packers can be a rebound team... unless Minnesota takes another step up, GB should be right there fighting for the division.
    wist

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    • #3
      GB would probably be first on my list of teams most likely to bounce back for a few reasons

      1. Our Division Sucks

      2. We lost a lot of close ones for a wide array of reasons

      3. Injury bug hit us in some key spots last year so that should be better and/or TT should theoretically should have better backups for us as he cycles out some of the bottom guys off the roster.
      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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      • #4
        I'm thinking they will be better this year. Part of my reasoning is that even if the transition to the 3-4 is rocky, how much worse can that defense be than last year's rotten egg?

        And if the team stays healthy, the offense's maturity (Rodgers, Colledge, Spitz, Jones, Nelson, Sitton, Finley, Jackson) should help it put up better numbers.
        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

        KYPack

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        • #5
          We should be better because Mike Montgomery will be bigger. :P
          I can't run no more
          With that lawless crowd
          While the killers in high places
          Say their prayers out loud
          But they've summoned, they've summoned up
          A thundercloud
          They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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          • #6
            Don't see them rebounding unless they acknowledge the DL problem.

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            • #7
              Partial, Tex is probably the only guy in the universe who thinks the Packers have no defensive line needs (he thinks they only need a backup nose tackle). Just because TT hasn't signed two defensive linemen doesn't mean he doesn't understand the need.

              He may sign a stopgap guy for a year while a rookie develops, or he may have his eyes on two or three defensive linemen in the draft. But I'm sure he's not going to send MM into the season with only five defensive linemen.
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • #8
                One problem last year was that we had a DC who wouldn't/couldn't adjust. He kept running the same scheme even though it was obvious he wasn't getting the DL production needed to run that scheme. Don't know exactly what Capers is going to come up with, but if something isn't working, I suspect he won't be afraid to try something else.
                I can't run no more
                With that lawless crowd
                While the killers in high places
                Say their prayers out loud
                But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                A thundercloud
                They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Fritz
                  Partial, Tex is probably the only guy in the universe who thinks the Packers have no defensive line needs (he thinks they only need a backup nose tackle). Just because TT hasn't signed two defensive linemen doesn't mean he doesn't understand the need.

                  He may sign a stopgap guy for a year while a rookie develops, or he may have his eyes on two or three defensive linemen in the draft. But I'm sure he's not going to send MM into the season with only five defensive linemen.

                  he'll bring one in; it's bottomfeeder time.........TT is good at that
                  TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bretsky
                    Originally posted by Fritz
                    Partial, Tex is probably the only guy in the universe who thinks the Packers have no defensive line needs (he thinks they only need a backup nose tackle). Just because TT hasn't signed two defensive linemen doesn't mean he doesn't understand the need.

                    He may sign a stopgap guy for a year while a rookie develops, or he may have his eyes on two or three defensive linemen in the draft. But I'm sure he's not going to send MM into the season with only five defensive linemen.

                    he'll bring one in; it's bottomfeeder time.........TT is good at that
                    Yes, he is. He's VERY good at that.
                    "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MJZiggy
                      Originally posted by Bretsky
                      Originally posted by Fritz
                      Partial, Tex is probably the only guy in the universe who thinks the Packers have no defensive line needs (he thinks they only need a backup nose tackle). Just because TT hasn't signed two defensive linemen doesn't mean he doesn't understand the need.

                      He may sign a stopgap guy for a year while a rookie develops, or he may have his eyes on two or three defensive linemen in the draft. But I'm sure he's not going to send MM into the season with only five defensive linemen.

                      he'll bring one in; it's bottomfeeder time.........TT is good at that
                      Yes, he is. He's VERY good at that.
                      Maybe he's a carp...

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                      • #12
                        Posters have documented here some valid points about the Packers difficulties in a 6-10 season: defensive shortcomings, injuries to key players, and special teams.

                        I still feel THE most difficult hurdle the Packers had to overcome was the entire Brett Favre retirement/unretirement/trade debacle. I think that just sucked the life out of the start of the season for the Packers.

                        Rodgers not only had to carry the burden of replacing a future Hall of Fame legendary QB, he had to carry the burden of constantly being compared to the same quarterback who was still playing, but this time for a different team!

                        Not only did Rodgers play well for a first year starter, I thought he displayed remarkable poise and maturity in handling the situation in which he was placed. As a Packer fan, I have a lot of confidence in Rodgers coming back without the shadow of Brett Favre lurking over him.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Bretsky
                          GB would probably be first on my list of teams most likely to bounce back for a few reasons

                          1. Our Division Sucks

                          2. We lost a lot of close ones for a wide array of reasons

                          3. Injury bug hit us in some key spots last year so that should be better and/or TT should theoretically should have better backups for us as he cycles out some of the bottom guys off the roster.
                          I agree with all those points and look to a big season this year, if nothing else cuz our division is weak as always.

                          So Snake is going back to Vegas in 2 weeks from now. 2 years ago I had 36:1 odds of the Packers making the SuperBowl after going 8-8 in 2006. I put $10 on them at MGM Grand that would have netted Snake a cool $350 if Favre wouldn't have been too chilly in overtime vs. the Giants. GODDAMNIT! Sorry....still bitter...

                          But I wonder what the odds are now for this year's GB SuperBowl odds? If 20:1 or close, I'm putting $50 on it in a weak/turmoiled NFC. They look like a good bet for a rebound team for those reasons Bret listed.
                          Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.

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                          • #14
                            As of Monday, March 2nd, at Fitzgerald's in Las Vegas:
                            Packers are 18 to 1 to win the Super Bowl...and 8 to 1 to win the NFC Championship.
                            "What's one more torpedo in a sinking ship?"
                            Lynn Dickey, 1984

                            "Never apologize, mister. It's a sign of weakness."
                            John Wayne, "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon"

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Fritz
                              Partial, Tex is probably the only guy in the universe who thinks the Packers have no defensive line needs (he thinks they only need a backup nose tackle). Just because TT hasn't signed two defensive linemen doesn't mean he doesn't understand the need.

                              He may sign a stopgap guy for a year while a rookie develops, or he may have his eyes on two or three defensive linemen in the draft. But I'm sure he's not going to send MM into the season with only five defensive linemen.
                              Yeah, me, Thompson, and McCarthy. I'll settle for that.

                              I like the article's conclusion--that the Packers are likely to bounce back--DUH! Injuries ruined last season; Odds are that won't happen again.

                              The last line of the Packer segment of the article is just woefully ignorant, though. The Packers need to pick some OLBs (plural?) and solidify their secondary? That's just plain ridiculous on both counts.

                              I also reject the notion expressed by Bretsky and possibly others that the Packers are in a weak division. Sure, there is the Lions, but the other three are all quality teams. The Bears also were hurt by injuries last season. They still are tough on defense, and they aren't that far away on offense. The Vikings could be scary good if they found a solution at QB. I'd say about 4 or 5 of the other 7 divisions are clearly not as good as ours.
                              What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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