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  • #16
    Originally posted by Lurker64
    I'm also willing to entertain the notion that the guy that the Broncos brought in to run the show is way, way over his head. I mean, he got hired largely because he was the Pats OC, and who was the last Belichick assistant that was a good hire for another team?

    Very possible. The guys on NFL radio said he F'd it up and put himself in a no win situation. If Cutler skips the voluntary OTAs he going to undermine the dude big time. New offense and the QB skips it?

    I have no idea why they alienated the dude, he's a pretty solid QB. I know the Vikes don't want to scrap 2 1st round picks in a row but if you can get a guy like that, screw the pick. I'd be in favor of them dishing out some high picks. He isn't exactly old you know.

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    • #17
      Yeah, if I were the Vikes I would do the same. They'd have the two best players in the division. Possibly the best three.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Partial
        Yeah, if I were the Vikes I would do the same. They'd have the two best players in the division. Possibly the best three.
        Let me get this straight, Cutler has a losing record and hasn't made the playoffs--yet you think he's an elite player? Isn't that hypocritical after what you've been saying about Rodgers?
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #19
          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
          Originally posted by Partial
          Yeah, if I were the Vikes I would do the same. They'd have the two best players in the division. Possibly the best three.
          Let me get this straight, Cutler has a losing record and hasn't made the playoffs--yet you think he's an elite player? Isn't that hypocritical after what you've been saying about Rodgers?
          Cutler has a better arm, has done quite well despite a HORRENDOUS team, and has shown me infinitely more than Rodgers.

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          • #20
            No.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by KYPack
              No.
              I posted something else in the thread but decided to remove it

              I like Cutler a lot as a player. Think he is light years better than Rodgers at this point. He's shown more in less time in the league, and was thrown into the fray as a young player.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Partial
                Originally posted by KYPack
                No.
                I posted something else in the thread but decided to remove it.
                Well that's progress, I guess. I wasn't pissed, I knew ya got 14K posts somehow.

                [/quote]I like Cutler a lot as a player. Think he is light years better than Rodgers at this point. He's shown more in less time in the league, and was thrown into the fray as a young player.[/quote]

                I like Cutler mesself. Live arm and mentally tough.

                Light years better than Rodgers?

                Yer nuts, pal.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Partial
                  Cutler has a better arm, has done quite well despite a HORRENDOUS team, and has shown me infinitely more than Rodgers.
                  Stronger arm? Probably, but Rodgers has a damn good arm also. Rodgers is more accurate. He also appears to be much smarter than Cutler. Rodgers has a bit more mobility. I like Cutler's moxie and durability though. Pretty close, I think.

                  Cutler has done more because he has played more. Rodgers was sitting behind Brett Favre. Rodgers has been in the league one year more, but look at the numbers.

                  Cutler's 1st full year as a starter:
                  63.6%, 7.5 ypa, 20 TDs, 14 ints, 88.1 rating, 205 rushing yards, 1 TD

                  Cutler's 2nd full year as a starter (last year);
                  62.3%, 7.3 ypa, 25 TDs, 18 ints, 86.0 rating, 200 rushing yards, 2 TDs

                  Rodgers's 1st full year as a starter (last year):
                  63.6%, 7.5 ypa, 28 TDs, 13 ints, 93.8 rating, 207 rushing yards, 4 TDs
                  "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                  • #24
                    Re: Cutler gone?

                    Originally posted by KYPack
                    The custom-built, four-bedroom, seven-bath home went on the market Thursday and is listed for sale at $2 million, according to a real estate listing obtained by 7NEWS.
                    .... Cutler bought the house in 2006 for $1.34 million.
                    I wonder if the real estate market in Denver is that good that he can expect a 50% appreciation in 3 years, or if he did a major remodel/addition?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Partial
                      I like Cutler a lot as a player. Think he is light years better than Rodgers at this point. He's shown more in less time in the league, and was thrown into the fray as a young player.
                      I think all in all they are close to being the same player. Not exactly the same, but similar. I don't think either team would be better off having the other as its QB.

                      Unless Cutler has wanted to get out of Denver and is using the current situation to try and force that result, I think he is handling this quite poorly.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Partial
                        Originally posted by KYPack
                        No.
                        I posted something else in the thread but decided to remove it

                        I like Cutler a lot as a player. Think he is light years better than Rodgers at this point. He's shown more in less time in the league, and was thrown into the fray as a young player.
                        Yeah we get it. You got a man-crush for Cutler. That's cool, but pray tell why?

                        He's good, but brash and kinda a punk so far. +1 for Arod.

                        Neither one has made the playoffs. Moot point.

                        Slightly stronger arm, but less accurate than Arod. Moot point.

                        Arod is slightly more mobile. +1

                        Health. Cutler is physically OK, but has diabetes (a serious, but very treatable condition). Arod has been injured in past, but played a full 16 game season in 2008 and displayed manishness for sure. Moot point.

                        So Arod is +2 in Snake's book....and trying not be a homer.... but it should tell you something that Denver is willing to get rid of him for Journeyman Cassell. So what's the deal...how is this light years better than ARod?

                        How is Cutler so much better then? Or is Snake missing something? Please tell....

                        ...?? You hate TT? You think Brett is still the best option. Either way simple math makes that -2 for Partial for a grand total of +4 for Arod with that logic. Please spoil me and others for the grandiose reasons why Cutler is better than ARod other than the points I just made for you.
                        Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Partial
                          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                          Originally posted by Partial
                          Yeah, if I were the Vikes I would do the same. They'd have the two best players in the division. Possibly the best three.
                          Let me get this straight, Cutler has a losing record and hasn't made the playoffs--yet you think he's an elite player? Isn't that hypocritical after what you've been saying about Rodgers?
                          Cutler has a better arm, has done quite well despite a HORRENDOUS team, and has shown me infinitely more than Rodgers.
                          Translation: I like Cutler. I hate Rodgers, so any QB is better than Rofgers and I can change the argument to my advantage no matter how many times I fail.

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                          • #28
                            How many times have I had to correct you? I don't hate Rodgers. Think he is average to slightly above average. #12. Cutler is top 10 imo.

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                            • #29
                              Cutler's a tool and so are you.
                              Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Partial
                                How many times have I had to correct you? I don't hate Rodgers. Think he is average to slightly above average. #12. Cutler is top 10 imo.
                                2008 Quarterback Rankings
                                RANK NAME COM ATT PCT YDS TD RATING
                                6 A. Rodgers 341 536 63.6 4038 28 93.8

                                16 Jay Cutler 384 616 62.3 4526 25 86.0
                                [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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