Cutler gone?

[Fritz]

I would much rather see the Pack face a Cutler-led Vikings team than a Peterson-led team!

[KYPack]

Ras...

If the Queens land Cutler, I'm gonna be totally pissed at you.


& I don't really know why.

[Fritz]

Would you be pissed at Ras if the Vikings gave up Peterson to get Cutler?

[Rastak]

Would you be pissed at Ras if the Vikings gave up Peterson to get Cutler?

Okay, I'll answer both of your questions from this thread.

1) I would not trade Peterson for Cutler, although Cutler has a longer shelf life.

2) What would I give up? A 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder and a player not deemed an essential starter.

That would leave the Vikes with Cook at RT. Sign Pace.

Need depth at WR? Sign Holt.

These guys are at the end of their careers but could provide a boost for a 2 year window. NEXT year draft an OL, DT, WR and CB.

[SnakeLH2006]

More plot thickening in Denver...

Cutler's parents are selling their house.

A day after Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler put his house on the market, his parents have done the same.

Cutler's parents live about two miles from the home he put up for sale on Friday, in the town of Elizabeth. Cutler's home is in Parker.

Their home is listed at 4,144 square feet with four bedrooms, three baths and a three car garage. It has a price tag of $835,000.

Cutler's Parker home is three years old, has four bedrooms and six bathrooms. It is 5,149 square feet and has two fireplaces. It also has a three-car garage.

Offseason workouts for the Broncos are scheduled for next week at Dove Valley, but there is speculation Cutler may not show up.

Evidently, Cutler is moving to Wisconsin, next door to some fellow named "Partial".

Snake sees about 3 hilarious posts a week where he coughs beer out his nose laughing nonstop. This was one of them.

[Guiness]

I hadn't thought of it this way, but I actually like the idea! I'm one that is of the opinion that the #1 pick is an albatross, especially this year with not clear cut top dog.

I think they should offer Denver the #1 for Cutler and Denver's 1st or 2nd round pick. When Denver says we'll take the later pick (#20?) say no, you have to take the first pick overall!

Denver's obvious response would be "we don't have to take anything, you don't want him? Fine, we'll keep him."

Obviously (I thought?) that was tongue in cheek - that they'd force Denver to take 'more' for Cutler.

As far as the 'fine, we'll keep him' bit, that may not be an option for Denver at this point. Although since the initial stuff we've seen, the newsroom's been slow, so this may be another case of the reporters looking for something to report on.

[mission]

Would you be pissed at Ras if the Vikings gave up Peterson to get Cutler?

Not at all!!!!

The Queens would just become 08 Denver. There wouldn't be much of a difference and you could expect them to sit around 9-7 or 10-6. You gotta win games anyway so if you can't beat that, FK ya...

As much as I hate the Vikings (I REALLY do), AP is easily the scariest dude in the NFL right now. He's the ONLY reason why I could ever enjoy watching a Queens game. The guy is awesome, and I HATE him -- against the Packers.

[Fritz]

Would you be pissed at Ras if the Vikings gave up Peterson to get Cutler?

Okay, I'll answer both of your questions from this thread.

1) I would not trade Peterson for Cutler, although Cutler has a longer shelf life.

2) What would I give up? A 1st rounder and a 2nd rounder and a player not deemed an essential starter.

That would leave the Vikes with Cook at RT. Sign Pace.

Need depth at WR? Sign Holt.

These guys are at the end of their careers but could provide a boost for a 2 year window. NEXT year draft an OL, DT, WR and CB.

This is one of thosse interesting, essential philosophical disagreements folks on this board have from time to time. I would be aghast if the Packers tried this approach (which people have advocated from time to time, especially during Favre's last years). To me, this shoot-the-wad approach is akin to rolling all your debts into a refinance of your house - it ay look good now, but look out Lucy down the road.

Yet I can also see the appeal - I don't think that you, Ras, or anyone who advocates this approach - that all the pieces are nearly there, so why not? - is foolish or anything. I definitely see the appeal. It's just that in my experience as a fan, the times I've seen this approach tried, it just doesn't seem to work.

It's all cool. It's all fun. In fact, I'd kinda be happy if the Vikes did what you advocate. I see long-term disaster for the team, myself, if this were to happen.

This year, well, who knows? Cutler-Peterson sounds good on paper, but who knows if it would work?

I do agree that Adrain Peterson is one scary dude. With him, the Vikes are always a threat, as long as they've got a modicum of defense. He's a fantastic running back.

[Joemailman]

Looks like Broncos are ready to release Cutler:

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2009/03/15/12197/

[digitaldean]

Maybe this has been mentioned already, but doesn't it look obvious that the agent may be playing the Broncos for more money, if not a trade?

And of course that agent is none other than Bus Cook, Favre's agent. He sure is getting enough publicity, I'll grant him that much.

I'd say, "play with your contract". He is getting paid slightly above min. wage, even for a drama queen.

Bowlen is even sounding like Cutler may be gone. According to Denver Post, McDaniels and Cutler exchanged words and Cutler ended up leaving vowing not coming to camp.

The teams most bandied about are the Bears, Lions, Vikes, Titans and Browns. Keep him in the AFC please! He's not a world beater, but is a step up from any of the QB's the other 3 NFC North teams have.

[KYPack]

Cutler is from Lincoln City Indiana. He was a big thing down there and lots of people were surprised he went to Vandy. Cutler is a Vandy weasel. He was a definite dirty Southern frat boy in college.

He's sold all his cribs. There are a lot of tom toms beating in Southern Indiana and that neck of the woods that Cutler is headed to Nashville. He still has a house or something there and wants out of Denver in general. The altitude plays hell with his diabetes. Nashville has great medical facilities and is sea level, ya know.

This is from people I know from WKY and is probably all bullshit. The other big rumor is that he was a huge Bear fan growing up and wants to play in Chicago if he can.

That part of the world is Bear, Ram, and Titan country, so rumors having him go to those teams are to be expected.

Like I say this has about a 1% chance of being true. This is the first time in 25 years those Hillbillies out there have ever given me any Pro Football gossip, so I'm happy to get it.

[digitaldean]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3983805

Cutler says he can't trust McDaniels and now wants to be traded.

This thing is just getting weirder by the minute....

[Lurker64]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3983805

Cutler says he can't trust McDaniels and now wants to be traded.

This thing is just getting weirder by the minute....

If I was Pat Bowlen, I would consider firing McDaniels over this. The one position that Denver appeared to have settled when he was hired was at the QB, and the man managed to screw that up with some really questionable decisionmaking.

[Partial]

This guy is going to Minne or Detroit. I would bet my bottom dollar on it.

[sheepshead]

This guy is going to Minne or Detroit. I would bet my bottom dollar on it.

Good, hopefully you'll go with him.