Cutler gone?

[Fritz]

The more I read about Cutler, the less I'd want him on my team. As a friend of mine pointed out, a 26 year old Brett Favre did not and probably would not have pulled this kind of scheiss.

I also have questions about his accuracy but have not seen him play enough to know for real.

[packers11]

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9345936/Cutler%27s-agent-Cooks-up-another-drama

Cutler's agent Cooks up another drama

here are a number of issues to consider in this Jay Cutler "I want to be traded" drama. First, Broncos head coach Josh McDaniels isn't Bill Belichick. He's only 32 and he's new to being the boss. He's also not used to being around a pouty, immature quarterback.

Then, there is Cutler's agent, Bus Cook. Fans became familiar with Cook last summer because he is Brett Favre's agent. And we all know how that once great Favre-Green Bay marriage turned out. It went up in flames and now Favre is retired and looking for TV work.

Cook has forever claimed that he couldn't reason with Favre and protect him from himself. That's why Favre landed with the Jets and not with Jon Gruden and the Bucs. I always thought a wise, old agent like Cook would have pulled those strings a little better than he did.

But give Cook credit. He's been pulling the strings nicely for Cutler. Everyone should know that Cutler has wanted out of Denver ever since Mike Shanahan was fired and quarterback coach Jeremy Bates left for USC shortly afterward.

Before McDaniels and the Broncos pursued a failed trade for Matt Cassel, Cook had already been begging to get his client out. Denver told him no from the beginning. But somehow Cook has been able — how hilarious is this? — to paint Cutler as some victim in the cruel world of NFL trade talk. At the moment, the Broncos seem to be losing the PR war.

Cutler is from Santa Claus, Indiana. So, he wouldn't mind playing in the Midwest, but probably not Detroit. He wouldn't mind Tampa, either, considering the Bucs were very serious about possibly acquiring him in the botched three-way trade with New England.

A wise man once told me it's not about more money, but dollars always seem to be an issue. Cassel, who has played one NFL season since high school, is on the financial ledger for $14.6 million this season. Cutler, a first-round bonus baby, has a $2.3 million salary for 2009. The only way Cook is going to receive a better commission (and a higher salary for his 25-year-old quarterback) is by forcing Denver to trade Cutler, who is entering the fourth year of a six-year contract.

I don't know what to make of Cutler. He turned me off last season when he said his arm was better than John Elway's. He talks about McDaniels not being smart enough to simply pull him aside and talk to him one-on-one and sing sweet accolades into his ear.

One NFL general manager emailed me, saying Cutler's immaturity has plagued him throughout his Broncos' tenure. Consequently, prospective suitors are forewarned that Cutler may look great on Sunday, zipping passes on the field, but that he has poor practice habits, has never been a lover of watching film or isn't a leader like Tom Brady. Oh, and his won-lost record is 17-20.

It is going to be hard for McDaniels to turn this situation around. But there is no question that he needs to be able to talk with Cutler alone. Cutler needs to make his own decisions without Cook in the room. In Green Bay, the Packers never felt that Cook helped matters when dealing with Favre. The same situation has mushroomed in Denver, where McDaniels feels he might get somewhere with Cutler if he's minus Cook. The agent is complicating matters.

By now, knowing what he knows about Cutler, the young head coach is torn about what course to pursue. But it is never good to be trading a star player while in a weakened position. Teams never seem to receive the proper compensation — like two first-round picks — when a petulant player is making demands and failing to show for work. Yes, this week's minicamp is optional, but you would think that a young quarterback would want to find out how McDaniels is as a coach before turning his back on him.

The league's owner meetings begin Sunday in Dana Point, Ca. and Denver's Pat Bowlen and McDaniels will be able to talk directly to any potential bidders for Cutler. Tampa Bay, Detroit and Minnesota make the most sense because all three teams need a starting quarterback. Yes, the Vikings just signed Sage Rosenfels to compete with Tarvaris Jackson, but no one really views him as a long-term solution.

The dilemma for Denver is what quarterback do they pursue or accept as compensation? The cupboard is pretty bare, and that's why Cleveland is mentioned (Brady Quinn and Derek Anderson) and Arizona (Matt Leinart). The Jets may join the pursuit, too. The Bears, who were Cutler's favorite team while growing up in Indiana, make a lot of sense, but they seem to be pinching pennies again. Also, I don't see Kyle Orton as Denver's next quarterback. Right now, forgotten Chris Simms is running with the first team in Denver.

It would be ridiculous for Denver to trade Cutler to Detroit for the first overall pick, and thus be forced to pay either Georgia's Matt Stafford or USC's Mark Sanchez about $33 million in guaranteed money if they deem either one of those prospects as a decent replacement. Both Tampa and Detroit have mid-first round picks, but it's unlikely either of those quarterbacks would be available at No. 19 or No. 20, respectively.

The bottom line is that the Broncos would be better off keeping Cutler and finding a way to make it work. But we all know that isn't going to happen.

[packers11]

The national media is starting to realize how Bus Cook manipulates his clients...

[Freak Out]

I like it....I just hope he stays in the AFC and doesn't help an NFC rival. I hope the Bronco fans suffer for a long time. Fuck Bowlen.

[KYPack]

I like it....I just hope he stays in the AFC and doesn't help an NFC rival. I hope the Bronco fans suffer for a long time. Fuck Bowlen.

I, too, have long standing Bronco hate. My brother lives out these and I've caught a lot of it from him. Those Pony fans can make Bills fans look sweet and innocent. Then came SB 32 and I have terminal Bronco angst.

It's funny with Cutler. You get to thinking that the Broncos were poised on the edge, but Plummer held 'em back. Then they got Cutler and they were all ready to take off, right?

Plummer was 40-17 as Bronco QB. They went to 3 play-offs and were in the AFC Championship game. Cutler? 17-20 with no play-off appearances. Jake the Snake had big flaws and made some stupid plays, but the record indicates he was a better solution than the Vandy Frat Boy.

[Zool]

The more articles I read about this, the more it really seems like Cook is trying to get more money out of Denver. He has 3 years left on his rookie contract and he's no where near the top of the list of starting QB pay.

If you didn't want a 6 year deal, you shouldn't have signed a 6 year deal.

[SnakeLH2006]

I like it....I just hope he stays in the AFC and doesn't help an NFC rival. I hope the Bronco fans suffer for a long time. Fuck Bowlen.

I, too, have long standing Bronco hate. My brother lives out these and I've caught a lot of it from him. Those Pony fans can make Bills fans look sweet and innocent. Then came SB 32 and I have terminal Bronco angst.

It's funny with Cutler. You get to thinking that the Broncos were poised on the edge, but Plummer held 'em back. Then they got Cutler and they were all ready to take off, right?

Plummer was 40-17 as Bronco QB. They went to 3 play-offs and were in the AFC Championship game. Cutler? 17-20 with no play-off appearances. Jake the Snake had big flaws and made some stupid plays, but the record indicates he was a better solution than the Vandy Frat Boy.

Wow..Great stats KY! Plus, makes you wonder just how much of an ass-clown Bus Cook really is...Winning solves everything, unless Bus Cook is your agent...then it's just asinine BS propaganda when it comes to QB's.

Yo Partial, fess up bro...You aren't really Bus Cook are you?

[Fritz]

No headlines with Cutler today....I'm suffering withdrawal symptoms.

[sheepshead]

I have said repeatedly. Even though it wasnt fashionable, that Bus Cook was the problem in the Favre saga. When you hire a lawyer, the first damn thing they tell you is keep your mouth shut. Cook should never have let Favre get in the position he did. He needed to coach Favre on every public statement and anticipate every one of TT possible responses. Cook is tool, he making much more money than we would ever pay a lawyer, but is not doing his job, or worse doing it at the detriment of his client. Looks to me like Favre and Cutler are dumb enough to follow along. Reminds me of Elvis and Colonel Parker.

[Fritz]

I have said repeatedly. Even though it wasnt fashionable, that Bus Cook was the problem in the Favre saga. When you hire a lawyer, the first damn thing they tell you is keep your mouth shut. Cook should never have let Favre get in the position he did. He needed to coach Favre on every public statement and anticipate every one of TT possible responses. Cook is tool, he making much more money than we would ever pay a lawyer, but is not doing his job, or worse doing it at the detriment of his client. Looks to me like Favre and Cutler are dumb enough to follow along. Reminds me of Elvis and Colonel Parker.

But he's a wealthy tool.

[cpk1994]

I have said repeatedly. Even though it wasnt fashionable, that Bus Cook was the problem in the Favre saga. When you hire a lawyer, the first damn thing they tell you is keep your mouth shut. Cook should never have let Favre get in the position he did. He needed to coach Favre on every public statement and anticipate every one of TT possible responses. Cook is tool, he making much more money than we would ever pay a lawyer, but is not doing his job, or worse doing it at the detriment of his client. Looks to me like Favre and Cutler are dumb enough to follow along. Reminds me of Elvis and Colonel Parker.

I don't buy that Cook was manipulating Favre. Favre knew full well what he was doing.

[KYPack]

I like it....I just hope he stays in the AFC and doesn't help an NFC rival. I hope the Bronco fans suffer for a long time. Fuck Bowlen.

Plummer was 40-17 as Bronco QB. They went to 3 play-offs and were in the AFC Championship game. Cutler? 17-20 with no play-off appearances. Jake the Snake had big flaws and made some stupid plays, but the record indicates he was a better solution than the Vandy Frat Boy.

Wow..Great stats KY! Plus, makes you wonder just how much of an ass-clown Bus Cook really is...Winning solves everything, unless Bus Cook is your agent...then it's just asinine BS propaganda when it comes to QB's.

Yo Partial, fess up bro...You aren't really Bus Cook are you?

Ya know, except for Ed Hochuli, Cutler was 16 - 21 with the Broncs. I wonder how this deal will pan out. They can't keep Cutler around after all this, but who in the hell will they get to run that team?

[Partial]

Can't really compare the stacked teams Plummer had to the powder puff that Cutler has had.

[Lurker64]

Can't really compare the stacked teams Plummer had to the powder puff that Cutler has had.

Except that, at least in 2006 Denver handed over the team Plummer had guided to 7-4 through 11 games over to Cutler who went 2-3 down the stretch.

I seriously think that Shanahan cost Denver a playoff spot by benching Plummer.

Then in 2007, Cutler lead the Broncos to their worst season since 1999 which was different from the 2006 squad that started 7-4 in the following ways:
Lost: Darrent Williams, Damien Nash, Tatum Bell, George Foster, Al Wilson, Tim Duckworth.

Added: Dre Bly, Travis Henry, Thump Belton, Daniel Graham, Brandon Stokley, Todd Sauerbrun, Brandon Pace, Mark Fenton.

Drafted: Jarvis Moss, Tim Crowder, Ryan Harris, Marcus Thomas.

[Partial]

Caps..

Except that, at least in 2006 Denver handed over the team Plummer had guided to 7-4 through 11 games over to Cutler who went 2-3 down the stretch.

AS A ROOKIE? IS THAT REALLY FAIR TO BLAME HIM AS A ROOKIE? C'MON

I seriously think that Shanahan cost Denver a playoff spot by benching Plummer.

AGREED

Then in 2007, Cutler lead the Broncos to their worst season since 1999 which was different from the 2006 squad that started 7-4 in the following ways:
Lost: Darrent Williams, Damien Nash, Tatum Bell, George Foster, Al Wilson, Tim Duckworth.

Added: Dre Bly, Travis Henry, Thump Belton, Daniel Graham, Brandon Stokley, Todd Sauerbrun, Brandon Pace, Mark Fenton.

Drafted: Jarvis Moss, Tim Crowder, Ryan Harris, Marcus Thomas.

WHAT ABOUT INJURIES? WHAT ABOUT EMOTIONAL TRAUMA AFTER DARRENT WILLIAMS DEATH? C'MON.

DENVER SUCKS. THEY DON'T HAVE A D AT ALL. CUTLER IS THE BEST PLAYER ON THAT TEAM IMO.