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  • #16
    Originally posted by cheesner
    Originally posted by Rastak

    Good question, how were the division champs constructed.

    Drafts
    Trades
    FA

    A balanced diet.

    . . .

    How did Minnesota aquire it's pro Bowl players (last years?)

    Peterson Draft
    Hutchinson FA
    Allen Trade
    K Williams Draft
    P Williams FA
    Winfield FA

    So they picked up three probowlers via FA, Drafted 2 and traded for 1. I'm sure you see a huge problem with that but I don't.
    Wow. All them probowlers, I am sure you must have won the Superbowl last year.
    6 = 10-6
    2 - 6-10

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    • #17
      Originally posted by cheesner
      Originally posted by wist43
      I'll take shit kicking toughness over finesse ball any day... is anyone else sick of seeing Wells and Colledge knocked 5 yards into the backfield on every snap??? It's embarrasing.
      Ridiculous.

      Why make up stuff? College got knocked back 5 yards into the backfield on every snap? Your warped and sinister view of TT has blinded you to the development of a good player.

      Here is a clip from 08. College against Mike Williams in game against Minny. College pushes Williams around.

      1:15 in

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSc1koUyEYo
      What's up with the Irish music in the background of the highlight film?
      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

      KYPack

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Fritz
        What's up with the Irish music in the background of the highlight film?[/quote]

        'Cause it's St Paddy's Day, ye heathen. Where's yer Celtic pride?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Rastak
          Originally posted by cheesner
          Originally posted by Rastak

          Good question, how were the division champs constructed.

          Drafts
          Trades
          FA

          A balanced diet.

          . . .

          How did Minnesota aquire it's pro Bowl players (last years?)

          Peterson Draft
          Hutchinson FA
          Allen Trade
          K Williams Draft
          P Williams FA
          Winfield FA

          So they picked up three probowlers via FA, Drafted 2 and traded for 1. I'm sure you see a huge problem with that but I don't.
          Wow. All them probowlers, I am sure you must have won the Superbowl last year.
          6 = 10-6
          2 - 6-10

          Didn't we only have 4 (Favre, Driver, Kamp, Harris) the year we went 13-3, Mn had 6 and they went 8-8. Pit only had 3 and they won the SB.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by cheesner
            Originally posted by wist43
            I'll take shit kicking toughness over finesse ball any day... is anyone else sick of seeing Wells and Colledge knocked 5 yards into the backfield on every snap??? It's embarrasing.
            Ridiculous.

            Why make up stuff? College got knocked back 5 yards into the backfield on every snap? Your warped and sinister view of TT has blinded you to the development of a good player.

            Here is a clip from 08. College against Mike Williams in game against Minny. College pushes Williams around.

            1:15 in

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSc1koUyEYo
            Making a generalization... what if I said he could run like the wind???
            wist

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            • #21
              Originally posted by wist43
              Originally posted by cheesner
              Originally posted by wist43
              I'll take shit kicking toughness over finesse ball any day... is anyone else sick of seeing Wells and Colledge knocked 5 yards into the backfield on every snap??? It's embarrasing.
              Ridiculous.

              Why make up stuff? College got knocked back 5 yards into the backfield on every snap? Your warped and sinister view of TT has blinded you to the development of a good player.

              Here is a clip from 08. College against Mike Williams in game against Minny. College pushes Williams around.

              1:15 in

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSc1koUyEYo
              Making a generalization... what if I said he could run like the wind???
              What if I said he could break like the wind?
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • #22
                Originally posted by wist43
                Originally posted by cheesner
                Originally posted by wist43
                I'll take shit kicking toughness over finesse ball any day... is anyone else sick of seeing Wells and Colledge knocked 5 yards into the backfield on every snap??? It's embarrasing.
                Ridiculous.

                Why make up stuff? College got knocked back 5 yards into the backfield on every snap? Your warped and sinister view of TT has blinded you to the development of a good player.

                Here is a clip from 08. College against Mike Williams in game against Minny. College pushes Williams around.

                1:15 in

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSc1koUyEYo
                Making a generalization... what if I said he could run like the wind???
                I am making a generalization?!

                You stated that Colledge gets 'knocked 5 yards into the backfield on EVERY snap'. Those are your words.

                I posted a link to a video where Colledge is not only not getting pushed back 5 yards, he actually takes the upper hand and pushes back a Probowl player.

                Who made the inaccurate generalization?

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                • #23
                  I think he meant that he was making a generalization about Colledge. It might not look very much like what other people see, but it's definitely a generalization.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by hoosier
                    I think he meant that he was making a generalization about Colledge. It might not look very much like what other people see, but it's definitely a generalization.
                    oh - my bad.

                    Problem with generalizations (especially ones such as this that are way off base) is that it undermines all your credibility. Colledge had a good season where I think he has moved into the 'above average' catagory. He is still young and improving and I look forward to seeing what he can do this year.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by cheesner
                      Originally posted by hoosier
                      I think he meant that he was making a generalization about Colledge. It might not look very much like what other people see, but it's definitely a generalization.
                      oh - my bad.

                      Problem with generalizations (especially ones such as this that are way off base) is that it undermines all your credibility. Colledge had a good season where I think he has moved into the 'above average' catagory. He is still young and improving and I look forward to seeing what he can do this year.
                      I think some fans' impressions of Colledge are colored by what they read about him from his rookie year. The early reports made it sound like he was somewhat arrogant and having difficulty making the transitions--the physical transition from T to G, and the mental transition from Boise St the the NFL. I have to admit that I didn't see him play during the second half of 2008 (hard to follow the Packers from southern Indiana), and if it weren't for what I read in PR about his improvement over 2008 I might have similar impressions about him.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by cheesner
                        Originally posted by hoosier
                        I think he meant that he was making a generalization about Colledge. It might not look very much like what other people see, but it's definitely a generalization.
                        oh - my bad.

                        Problem with generalizations (especially ones such as this that are way off base) is that it undermines all your credibility. Colledge had a good season where I think he has moved into the 'above average' catagory. He is still young and improving and I look forward to seeing what he can do this year.
                        Cheese,

                        See, I don't think his generalization is way off base. I think Colledge is AWFUL as a guard, and at best serviceable as a tackle. I still believe that if they left him as a tackle, he'd be ok, but that's about it.

                        I watched every game this past season, including the end of the season, and I did not see much improvement.

                        I am ready to label him as a bust. That means he'll have a breakout 2009 campaign and you can remind me of this in week 10.

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                        • #27
                          Amazing how different people can watch the same thing and take such different impressions away. I'd prefer DC stay at LG because he's so good at it, unless we have a good option at LG, as I think he'd easily beat out Clifton at this point. He could be a dominant RT (far better than Tausher ever was). Colledge has very rare feet and quickness, and has gotten quite strong. J Smith and Beatty are really the only highly rated prospect that compare to his agility, if I had to choose between Colledge and Beatty at LT, I'd probably choose Daryn.

                          When you watch a big run, nearly always Colledge is dominating somebody clearing the hole (he pancakes A LOT of LB's on the 2nd level). Aaron always snuck behind Daryn. And picked up 100% of his sneaks. I'm pretty sure that he hasn't given up a sack at T since he was a rookie. Aaron played more comfortable (his feet weren't as happy and he was more poised in the pocket) with Daryn at LT than Clifton. The more space DC has to work with, the better he looks.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by cheesner
                            Originally posted by wist43
                            Originally posted by cheesner
                            Originally posted by wist43
                            I'll take shit kicking toughness over finesse ball any day... is anyone else sick of seeing Wells and Colledge knocked 5 yards into the backfield on every snap??? It's embarrasing.
                            Ridiculous.

                            Why make up stuff? College got knocked back 5 yards into the backfield on every snap? Your warped and sinister view of TT has blinded you to the development of a good player.

                            Here is a clip from 08. College against Mike Williams in game against Minny. College pushes Williams around.

                            1:15 in

                            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSc1koUyEYo
                            Making a generalization... what if I said he could run like the wind???
                            I am making a generalization?!

                            You stated that Colledge gets 'knocked 5 yards into the backfield on EVERY snap'. Those are your words.

                            I posted a link to a video where Colledge is not only not getting pushed back 5 yards, he actually takes the upper hand and pushes back a Probowl player.

                            Who made the inaccurate generalization?
                            Good lord... I was making a generalization. Beginning to think most of you got dropped on your heads as children. Damn, get a grip.
                            wist

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by wist43
                              Originally posted by cheesner
                              Originally posted by wist43
                              Originally posted by cheesner
                              Originally posted by wist43
                              I'll take shit kicking toughness over finesse ball any day... is anyone else sick of seeing Wells and Colledge knocked 5 yards into the backfield on every snap??? It's embarrasing.
                              Ridiculous.

                              Why make up stuff? College got knocked back 5 yards into the backfield on every snap? Your warped and sinister view of TT has blinded you to the development of a good player.

                              Here is a clip from 08. College against Mike Williams in game against Minny. College pushes Williams around.

                              1:15 in

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSc1koUyEYo
                              Making a generalization... what if I said he could run like the wind???
                              I am making a generalization?!

                              You stated that Colledge gets 'knocked 5 yards into the backfield on EVERY snap'. Those are your words.

                              I posted a link to a video where Colledge is not only not getting pushed back 5 yards, he actually takes the upper hand and pushes back a Probowl player.

                              Who made the inaccurate generalization?
                              Good lord... I was making a generalization. Beginning to think most of you got dropped on your heads as children. Damn, get a grip.
                              I noted my error over 3 hrs and 4 posts ago.

                              You can call it a generalization, but it is just a lie. Facing the silliness of your statement you try to redirect rather than admit you were wrong. Because if you are forced to admit DC isn't bad, then you have to admit that he was a good choice by TT. If you start admitting that TT did anything that was right, you would have to contradict just about every post you have made in the last 3 years.

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                              • #30
                                Cheesner....how about you....you either:

                                1) Suggest 6 pro bowlers means automatic superbowl
                                or
                                2) Suggest it's bad to have 6 pro bowlers.....


                                That wasn't the most astute observation I ever saw!

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