Bus Cook - QB agent specialist

[Gunakor]

I saw a gassed defense at the end of games because the offense couldn't sustain a drive in the second half. .

I saw a gassed defense at the end of games frequently, but to say that was only because of the offense's inability to sustain drives is frankly laughable. The defense was gassed in large part because of their inability to get off the field. The defense, which was so good on 3rd downs in 2007, was absolutely terrible on 3rd downs in 2008.

A certain responsibility of the defense is to get itself off the field.

They were also gassed because they were extremely limited in their rotations. Especially on the DL, where the injury bug hit the worst. Can't be easy when you only have 3 healthy DT's on your roster.

[Tarlam!]

Interesting discussion between Gun and Partial. But what on earth does it have to do with Bus Cook?

[cpk1994]

I disagree. In many of the games they lost the offense was horrible. What is your excuse for the abysmal performances in Jax, Tenn and Minne?

I'm not looking at individual games. The season is over now, so you don't have to do that either. I'm looking at the whole season.

If those are the only 3 games that you can point to that were abysmal performances, then that means that the other 13 performances were fine. 13 good performances in 16 opportunities is fine by me. You don't put up SEASON totals like that if your offense only has one or two good games.

You just won't be happy unless our offense scores 45 points on a weekly basis, will you?

He won't be happy until Rodgers is gone.

[Tarlam!]

[/quote]He won't be happy until Rodgers is gone.[/quote]

Think Rodgers will hire Bus Cook as his agent any time soon?

[Gunakor]

He won't be happy until Rodgers is gone.

Think Rodgers will hire Bus Cook as his agent any time soon?

Bus Cook doesn't deserve any more franchise QB's to represent. And I don't think any other franchise QB's would be looking for an agent like Bus Cook in the first place. He doesn't exactly have a stellar record of service with regards to taking care of his star clients, especially QB's. He's overseen one extremely messy divorce between a franchise QB and his long time employer, and is in the midst of another messy divorce between a franchise QB and his employer just one year later. If I were a franchise QB, I'd make it a priority to stay as far away from that snake as I possibly could.

[Guiness]

Bus Cook doesn't deserve any more franchise QB's to represent. And I don't think any other franchise QB's would be looking for an agent like Bus Cook in the first place. He doesn't exactly have a stellar record of service with regards to taking care of his star clients, especially QB's. He's overseen one extremely messy divorce between a franchise QB and his long time employer, and is in the midst of another messy divorce between a franchise QB and his employer just one year later. If I were a franchise QB, I'd make it a priority to stay as far away from that snake as I possibly could.

Actually, two messy divorces - I wouldn't consider McNair's leaving Tenn to be a clean break with no hard feelings!

[Gunakor]

Bus Cook doesn't deserve any more franchise QB's to represent. And I don't think any other franchise QB's would be looking for an agent like Bus Cook in the first place. He doesn't exactly have a stellar record of service with regards to taking care of his star clients, especially QB's. He's overseen one extremely messy divorce between a franchise QB and his long time employer, and is in the midst of another messy divorce between a franchise QB and his employer just one year later. If I were a franchise QB, I'd make it a priority to stay as far away from that snake as I possibly could.

Actually, two messy divorces - I wouldn't consider McNair's leaving Tenn to be a clean break with no hard feelings!

I'm not sure how much that had to do with Cook personally though. Maybe it did, I don't know a whole lot about what transpired in that deal.

[Guiness]

Bus Cook doesn't deserve any more franchise QB's to represent. And I don't think any other franchise QB's would be looking for an agent like Bus Cook in the first place. He doesn't exactly have a stellar record of service with regards to taking care of his star clients, especially QB's. He's overseen one extremely messy divorce between a franchise QB and his long time employer, and is in the midst of another messy divorce between a franchise QB and his employer just one year later. If I were a franchise QB, I'd make it a priority to stay as far away from that snake as I possibly could.

Actually, two messy divorces - I wouldn't consider McNair's leaving Tenn to be a clean break with no hard feelings!

I'm not sure how much that had to do with Cook personally though. Maybe it did, I don't know a whole lot about what transpired in that deal.

I was possibly more Tennesee's doing - really bad cap management - but Cook is a common thread there.

What did end up happening there? I remember he was owed some insane amount, like $20mil or something, which would've been 20-25% of the cap at the time, and I think it was guaranteed. Did he get it?

[Dylan McKay]

I disagree. In many of the games they lost the offense was horrible. What is your excuse for the abysmal performances in Jax, Tenn and Minne?

I'm not looking at individual games. The season is over now, so you don't have to do that either. I'm looking at the whole season.

If those are the only 3 games that you can point to that were abysmal performances, then that means that the other 13 performances were fine. 13 good performances in 16 opportunities is fine by me. You don't put up SEASON totals like that if your offense only has one or two good games.

You just won't be happy unless our offense scores 45 points on a weekly basis, will you?

He won't be happy until Rodgers is gone.

I guess I don't get it. Take Favre out of the situation pretend that he actually did retire. Would anyone really be complaining about how Aaron Rodgers played this season?

[Partial]

I think Bus Cook is a decent enough agent. It's not like every agent out there isn't trying to get more money and more clients.

We really have no idea what is going on in this situation, or what played out in the Favre situation. We only have hearsay.

Besides, its not like their aren't tons of agents who have their players demand to be traded, or holdout, or whatever to get new contracts. This isn't the first time, nor is it the last time.

We can look at our own Javon Walker, Mike McKenzie, Ryan Grant, etc of examples of players trying to get traded/get more money/etc. There are plenty of examples league wide every year.

[Dylan McKay]

Favre didn't get more money going to the Jets. So it wasn't like Bus got Favre a better deal. He acted in what was thought to be in the best interest of his client, and acted on what his client's wants and needs were.

I think he would be a poor agent if he tried to talk Favre out of trying to play again even though that is what his client wanted more than anything was to play again.

Same for Cutler, he doesn't want to be in Denver anymore and doesn't trust the coach or front office. Cook is acting on what his client wants and based on Cutler's intentions.

[Gunakor]

I think Bus Cook is a decent enough agent. It's not like every agent out there isn't trying to get more money and more clients.

We really have no idea what is going on in this situation, or what played out in the Favre situation. We only have hearsay.

Besides, its not like their aren't tons of agents who have their players demand to be traded, or holdout, or whatever to get new contracts. This isn't the first time, nor is it the last time.

We can look at our own Javon Walker, Mike McKenzie, Ryan Grant, etc of examples of players trying to get traded/get more money/etc. There are plenty of examples league wide every year.

The players you mentioned are not franchise type players. We're talking about the elite group of players that have become the face of their repsective franchises.

And while all we have is hearsay, that doesn't mean that what we hear isn't true. We don't know exactly what happened in the Favre deal, for example, but we do know that Favre went on Greta to air his dirty laundry. That's exactly the thing Cook should have tried to prevent, and he didn't. He let the messy divorce get even messier. He's a goddamn snake.

[Patler]

Favre didn't get more money going to the Jets. So it wasn't like Bus got Favre a better deal. He acted in what was thought to be in the best interest of his client, and acted on what his client's wants and needs were.

I think he would be a poor agent if he tried to talk Favre out of trying to play again even though that is what his client wanted more than anything was to play again.

Same for Cutler, he doesn't want to be in Denver anymore and doesn't trust the coach or front office. Cook is acting on what his client wants and based on Cutler's intentions.

The agent is one of the players top advisers, if not THE top adviser. What a player wants, or thinks he is entitled to, is influenced strongly by the agent. A good adviser would have helped Favre make his annual decisions, and would have cautioned him against some of the things he did and said over the years. A good agent can be a strong negotiator, but still facilitate the relationship between the player and the team.

In my opinion, many of the sports agents fulfill only part of what they should in representing the players.

As for Cook, I think through out much of Favre's career he served him well. I do think Favre's inner circle, including Cook, let him down in recent years when Favre struggled with his own emotions, feelings and intentions. Maybe favre shut them out, I don't know.

[Partial]

You don't know that at all. That is making quite the leap. Last time I checked Favre is a very financially wealthy grown man, and I'm pretty sure his agent works for him, not the other way around. My guess is Cook probably told him it was dumb, and Favre told him to screw off and did it anyway.

That is equally likely if not moreso than your theory.

[Dylan McKay]

Favre in his books says that Bus is like his best friend, so I can't see Bus not working in the best interest of Favre, I don't think Cook would pull any punches with Favre just because he doesn't want to lose his cash cow.