NFL Adopts New Safety Rules

[Joemailman]

http://www.sportingnews.com/yourturn/viewtopic.php?t=531011

I wonder how much limiting the kickoff blocking wedge to 2 players will hurt the effectiveness of kickoff return units.

[Gunakor]

What were they concerned with regarding their change to onside kicks? I don't recall any injuries resulting specifically from the kicking team having more than 5 players bunched together in an attempt to recover the kick...

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whats the deal with banning the wedge?

how did guys get hurt from that?

[Joemailman]

Maybe from guys diving into the wedge trying to break it up? I don't know, but that would be my guess.

[Bossman641]

whats the deal with banning the wedge?

how did guys get hurt from that?

The wedge is one of the most violent collisions in all of sports. I've seen a couple articles about it. When you have 250 pound players running straight towards one another with the goal to hit the other as hard as possible from 60 yards away there is a lot of force.

Wedge busters are insane.

[Gunakor]

They enacted the Tom Brady rule this year too, where a defensive player if falling/driven to the ground must now get up before he can attempt to make a tackle. You gotta be kidding me. If you are lying on the ground and the ball carrier runs right past you, you cannot attempt to make the tackle or you'll be flagged. I hope I'm understanding this rule wrong, because the way it sounds to me is absolutely ridiculous.

[MadtownPacker]

The brady one does suck. First he was allowed to fumble in the snow and now people cant even tackle him?

[cpk1994]

They enacted the Tom Brady rule this year too, where a defensive player if falling/driven to the ground must now get up before he can attempt to make a tackle. You gotta be kidding me. If you are lying on the ground and the ball carrier runs right past you, you cannot attempt to make the tackle or you'll be flagged. I hope I'm understanding this rule wrong, because the way it sounds to me is absolutely ridiculous.

You are reading the rule wrong. You can't lunge into Quarterbacks like what happened to Tom Brady. Basically its an adustment keeping devenisve players from the QB's knees after they've hit the ground.

[Gunakor]

They enacted the Tom Brady rule this year too, where a defensive player if falling/driven to the ground must now get up before he can attempt to make a tackle. You gotta be kidding me. If you are lying on the ground and the ball carrier runs right past you, you cannot attempt to make the tackle or you'll be flagged. I hope I'm understanding this rule wrong, because the way it sounds to me is absolutely ridiculous.

You are reading the rule wrong. You can't lunge into Quarterbacks like what happened to Tom Brady. Basically its an adustment keeping devenisve players from the QB's knees after they've hit the ground.

Right. You can't make a tackle when on the ground. You have to get up first. I'm listening to it being explained right now, and the guys on ESPN to a man are all blasting this rule change because it takes away from the fundamentals of the game on defense. How can you expect a guy to get up off the ground to tackle the QB if he's standing upright right next to him? Tackle the QB, even if that means going for his knees. He's a football player too.

So now it's just QB's. That makes it even worse IMO. You are treating players of one position differently than players at another on a JUDICIAL level. That's absurd! Rules are rules, and should be the same for everyone. If you won't protect a runningback from being taken out at the knees while running through the line, why should you protect the QB from being taken out at the knees while scrambling out of the pocket?

[cpk1994]

They enacted the Tom Brady rule this year too, where a defensive player if falling/driven to the ground must now get up before he can attempt to make a tackle. You gotta be kidding me. If you are lying on the ground and the ball carrier runs right past you, you cannot attempt to make the tackle or you'll be flagged. I hope I'm understanding this rule wrong, because the way it sounds to me is absolutely ridiculous.

You are reading the rule wrong. You can't lunge into Quarterbacks like what happened to Tom Brady. Basically its an adustment keeping devenisve players from the QB's knees after they've hit the ground.

Right. You can't make a tackle when on the ground. You have to get up first. I'm listening to it being explained right now, and the guys on ESPN to a man are all blasting this rule change because it takes away from the fundamentals of the game on defense. How can you expect a guy to get up off the ground to tackle the QB if he's standing upright right next to him? Tackle the QB, even if that means going for his knees. He's a football player too.

So now it's just QB's. That makes it even worse IMO. You are treating players of one position differently than players at another on a JUDICIAL level. That's absurd! Rules are rules, and should be the same for everyone. If you won't protect a runningback from being taken out at the knees while running through the line, why should you protect the QB from being taken out at the knees while scrambling out of the pocket?

Becuase the NFL regards the QB as the most important players in the league. They are the one position not easily replaced. You very rarely see a Cassell situation.

[Gunakor]

They enacted the Tom Brady rule this year too, where a defensive player if falling/driven to the ground must now get up before he can attempt to make a tackle. You gotta be kidding me. If you are lying on the ground and the ball carrier runs right past you, you cannot attempt to make the tackle or you'll be flagged. I hope I'm understanding this rule wrong, because the way it sounds to me is absolutely ridiculous.

You are reading the rule wrong. You can't lunge into Quarterbacks like what happened to Tom Brady. Basically its an adustment keeping devenisve players from the QB's knees after they've hit the ground.

Right. You can't make a tackle when on the ground. You have to get up first. I'm listening to it being explained right now, and the guys on ESPN to a man are all blasting this rule change because it takes away from the fundamentals of the game on defense. How can you expect a guy to get up off the ground to tackle the QB if he's standing upright right next to him? Tackle the QB, even if that means going for his knees. He's a football player too.

So now it's just QB's. That makes it even worse IMO. You are treating players of one position differently than players at another on a JUDICIAL level. That's absurd! Rules are rules, and should be the same for everyone. If you won't protect a runningback from being taken out at the knees while running through the line, why should you protect the QB from being taken out at the knees while scrambling out of the pocket?

Becuase the NFL regards the QB as the most important players in the league. They are the one position not easily replaced. You very rarely see a Cassell situation.

Boo freakin hoo. Doesn't matter in the least IMO. When a player gets injured, regardless of position, it hurts the team. If you are going to protect the QB you need to protect everyone, and if you protect everyone than you've destroyed the game. Let them play. And when they get hurt you go to the next guy. Sometimes you get unlucky and get hit with many injuries, as has happened a couple times here recently. But thems the breaks. This is football. It is not a contact sport, it is a violent collision sport. Injuries happen, which is why depth is so important. You got a star QB, great, now go get him a pretty good backup because odds are he's gonna get hurt at some point. That's football. Or at least it was.

FFS why don't they just put a giant pillowtop comforter over the damn field in case one of these guys actually DOES get tackled.

[cpk1994]

They enacted the Tom Brady rule this year too, where a defensive player if falling/driven to the ground must now get up before he can attempt to make a tackle. You gotta be kidding me. If you are lying on the ground and the ball carrier runs right past you, you cannot attempt to make the tackle or you'll be flagged. I hope I'm understanding this rule wrong, because the way it sounds to me is absolutely ridiculous.

You are reading the rule wrong. You can't lunge into Quarterbacks like what happened to Tom Brady. Basically its an adustment keeping devenisve players from the QB's knees after they've hit the ground.

Right. You can't make a tackle when on the ground. You have to get up first. I'm listening to it being explained right now, and the guys on ESPN to a man are all blasting this rule change because it takes away from the fundamentals of the game on defense. How can you expect a guy to get up off the ground to tackle the QB if he's standing upright right next to him? Tackle the QB, even if that means going for his knees. He's a football player too.

So now it's just QB's. That makes it even worse IMO. You are treating players of one position differently than players at another on a JUDICIAL level. That's absurd! Rules are rules, and should be the same for everyone. If you won't protect a runningback from being taken out at the knees while running through the line, why should you protect the QB from being taken out at the knees while scrambling out of the pocket?

Becuase the NFL regards the QB as the most important players in the league. They are the one position not easily replaced. You very rarely see a Cassell situation.

Boo freakin hoo. Doesn't matter in the least IMO. When a player gets injured, regardless of position, it hurts the team. If you are going to protect the QB you need to protect everyone, and if you protect everyone than you've destroyed the game. Let them play. And when they get hurt you go to the next guy. Sometimes you get unlucky and get hit with many injuries, as has happened a couple times here recently. But thems the breaks. This is football. It is not a contact sport, it is a violent collision sport. Injuries happen, which is why depth is so important. You got a star QB, great, now go get him a pretty good backup because odds are he's gonna get hurt at some point. That's football. Or at least it was.

FFS why don't they just put a giant pillowtop comforter over the damn field in case one of these guys actually DOES get tackled.

I'm not saying I agree with the NFL. I'm just pointing out the NFL's MO when it comes to QB's. Quarterbacks are the stars and big names of this league. THe NFL treats them as such.

[gbgary]

They enacted the Tom Brady rule this year too, where a defensive player if falling/driven to the ground must now get up before he can attempt to make a tackle. You gotta be kidding me. If you are lying on the ground and the ball carrier runs right past you, you cannot attempt to make the tackle or you'll be flagged. I hope I'm understanding this rule wrong, because the way it sounds to me is absolutely ridiculous.

You are reading the rule wrong. You can't lunge into Quarterbacks like what happened to Tom Brady. Basically its an adustment keeping devenisve players from the QB's knees after they've hit the ground.

we took out randal cunningham this way one year. who was it...bryce paup?

[texaspackerbacker]

If they must have a crap rule like this at all, it should be limited to when the QB is in the pocket.

[channtheman]

This rule is just absolutely absurd. They are working really hard to make football lamer every year. Like someone said it isn't just a contact sport it is a vicious contact sport. The players know they can get hurt and shit happens. UGH! This is actually very frustrating.