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  • My Draft Wish List

    Let's start with our #9 pick : what is a likely scenario?
    I think the players TT would most covet would be:
    -Eugene Monroe
    -B.J. Raji
    -Aaron Curry
    -Jason Smith
    ......................
    Brian Orakpo, Everette Brown, and Aaron Maybin are players that all could be repeats of another certain pass rushing demon Ron Wolf drafted. TT should be really doing his homework here.
    In film I've watched of Brown, an awful lot of his big plays seemed to come when he was virtually unblocked. That won't happen at the pro level.
    Maybin, especially, seems like a light, one-dimensional player.
    I'm just not sure any of them is a #9 value, and I think the Packers will be really focusing in here to be sure that they would truly fit the new scheme before considering investing the pick.

    If Monroe, Raji, Curry, and Smith are all off the board, I have a nagging thought that Andre Smith could be seen here as a great value - IF the Packers decide his Combine & pro day workout problems are simply due to a maturity lapse- and not indicative of deeper problems.

    With later picks, here's a list of players - in no particular order I'd love to see TT draft :

    Clint Sintim (LB)
    Robert Ayers (DE)
    William Beatty (OT)
    Derek Pegues (S)
    D.J. Moore (CB)
    Clay Matthews (LB)
    Paul Kruger (DE)
    Connor Barwin (DE)
    Donald Brown (RB)
    Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

  • #2
    Connor Barwin is a prototypical 3-4 OLB, not a DE. He'd be a great pickup in round 2 though.
    </delurk>

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    • #3
      you might be right about andre smith. theres no doubt the guy has a ton of talent. he could end up being a huge steal at #9

      or he could go on a shooting rampage and end up in prison in 2 years

      what about a true center with the second round pick? like unger or mack. we haven't really had a dominate leader at that position since bag o' doughnuts was here. spitz would be fine there, but he's no leader

      or duke robinson could be there

      take smith in the first, unger mack or robinson in the second. then spend your third round picks on 2 d-linemen, and you've helped improve your two most important areas on the team

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      • #4
        I want a multi Pro Bowler with pick #9. A playmaking star. While I would prefer that it not be a OL, bottom line is if TT picks us a playmaker he's made the right call.

        He'll probably have the chance to select the top rated player at several positions, and I'm fine if he chooses to pass on them as long as he gets us a playmaker.

        I'm not sure why, but I always gravitate toward the dang WR's.......so while I'm in the minority............I'm on board with the CRABMAN
        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Bretsky
          I want a multi Pro Bowler with pick #9. A playmaking star.
          That would be great, but the last 5 picks made at #9 were Keith Rivers, Ted Ginn, Ernie Sims, Carlos Rogers, Reggie Williams. They have a combined 0 Pro Bowls.
          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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          • #6
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
            Originally posted by Bretsky
            I want a multi Pro Bowler with pick #9. A playmaking star.
            That would be great, but the last 5 picks made at #9 were Keith Rivers, Ted Ginn, Ernie Sims, Carlos Rogers, Reggie Williams. They have a combined 0 Pro Bowls.
            Thanks for bringing me back to earth with a massive thud, Harv.

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            • #7
              Re: My Draft Wish List

              Originally posted by The Shadow
              Let's start with our #9 pick : what is a likely scenario?
              I think the players TT would most covet would be:
              -Eugene Monroe
              -B.J. Raji
              -Aaron Curry
              -Jason Smith
              ......................
              Brian Orakpo, Everette Brown, and Aaron Maybin are players that all could be repeats of another certain pass rushing demon Ron Wolf drafted. TT should be really doing his homework here.
              In film I've watched of Brown, an awful lot of his big plays seemed to come when he was virtually unblocked. That won't happen at the pro level.
              Maybin, especially, seems like a light, one-dimensional player.
              I'm just not sure any of them is a #9 value, and I think the Packers will be really focusing in here to be sure that they would truly fit the new scheme before considering investing the pick.

              If Monroe, Raji, Curry, and Smith are all off the board, I have a nagging thought that Andre Smith could be seen here as a great value - IF the Packers decide his Combine & pro day workout problems are simply due to a maturity lapse- and not indicative of deeper problems.

              With later picks, here's a list of players - in no particular order I'd love to see TT draft :

              Clint Sintim (LB)
              Robert Ayers (DE)
              William Beatty (OT)
              Derek Pegues (S)
              D.J. Moore (CB)
              Clay Matthews (LB)
              Paul Kruger (DE)
              Connor Barwin (DE)
              Donald Brown (RB)
              I think a lot depends on who the Lions pick, if they take a Tackle like Monroe it'll give Raji a chance to slip to #9, or trade down if some team is desperate for a QB. Gil Brandt says it's a good draft for WR's, and there's better value in the 2nd-3rd rounds, DD is getting older, JJ had a little drop off last year, so I like the WR's, they can help on special teams and you could switch them to DB if needed. I like Raji/Andre Smith/Maybin in that order, I also like Sintim, Brown, or Eric Wood in the 2nd. Some other players I like:
              Massaquo, WR, Georgia
              Murphy, WR, Florida
              Inglesias, WR, Oklahoma
              Gant, WR, Northern Alabama
              Guice, WR, Northwestern State Louisiana
              Harris, CB, Virginia Tech
              Bennett, DE, Texas A & M
              Johnson, CB, Jackson State
              Moore, RB, Wyoming
              I don't expect any immediate starters from this draft, including Raji, and TT has 9 picks, so I hope he trades into the 2nd round and grabs some of those good WR's. If not, stay put and load up on some pass rushing OLB's.
              Thanks Ted!

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              • #8
                Seems to me that this is a really interesting draft for tweeners, which is good for us.

                Some players I'm interested in, from a defense perspective:
                1st Round: Aaron Maybin, Brian Orakpo, B.J. Raji, Evander Hood.
                2nd Round: Jarron Gilbert, Connor Barwin, Larry English, Clint Sintim.
                Day 2: Myron Pryor, Mitch King, Sammie Lee Hill, Paul Kruger.

                Honestly, if Thompson does nothing but pick Defensive Linemen, Outside Linebackers, and Offensive Linemen this draft, I wouldn't be at all unhappy.

                If we don't land Raji in the 1st, Myron Pryor with one of the thirds would be a great pickup. I think a great first three rounds would be:
                1: Orakpo/Maybin
                2: Gilbert/Hood
                3A: Pryor
                3B: Best OL available.
                </delurk>

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                • #9
                  I was going to start an opposite thread - whom would you like to see TT NOT pick at #9? Which player pick would cause you to feel some Thompson-inspired bile in your throat?

                  For me, that'd be Malcolm Jenkins, closely followed by Brian Cushing. Jenkins - too slow, it seems, to be but a safety, and he's not played there before, so I just wouldn't like the pick. It's one thing to pick a guy in the second or third round and convert him cuz he's slow (Leroy Butler), but not at #9 overall, I don't think. Cushing I don't like cuz I can't imagine anyone putting on the weight/muscle he has so quickly without roids.

                  I'd be shocked if TT picked Stafford, fairly shocked if he picked Sanchez. Surprised if he picked Manboobs Smith. Surprised a little if he picked up Crabs. Disappointed if he picked Oher.

                  Happy if he picked Raji. Really happy. I'd be okay with Orakpo. I'd be pretty happy with Monroe if he slipped to #9. I'd be fine if TT traded down, unless Raji were availible at that pick and TT traded down anyway.

                  I like Hood after reading about him on this site. I like Shortarms Unger. I like Myron Pryor's name - who knew a dorky, geeky bookworm could be a nose tackle? I like Pooljumpin' Gilbert. People say Connor Barwin might be good. I'm okay with that in the second.
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                    Originally posted by Bretsky
                    I want a multi Pro Bowler with pick #9. A playmaking star.
                    That would be great, but the last 5 picks made at #9 were Keith Rivers, Ted Ginn, Ernie Sims, Carlos Rogers, Reggie Williams. They have a combined 0 Pro Bowls.

                    With all of the TTT glorification in here one might expect more then that of a Lions, Bengals...etc....GM
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                      Originally posted by Bretsky
                      I want a multi Pro Bowler with pick #9. A playmaking star.
                      That would be great, but the last 5 picks made at #9 were Keith Rivers, Ted Ginn, Ernie Sims, Carlos Rogers, Reggie Williams. They have a combined 0 Pro Bowls.
                      Get out of the first round TT now!
                      Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                      • #12
                        Pure and simple... they need difference makers in their front 7 on defense.

                        Be it Orakpo, Raji, English, et al...

                        That said, they also need an OT... but, as TT is always saying, they don't draft for need.
                        wist

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by sheepshead
                          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                          Originally posted by Bretsky
                          I want a multi Pro Bowler with pick #9. A playmaking star.
                          That would be great, but the last 5 picks made at #9 were Keith Rivers, Ted Ginn, Ernie Sims, Carlos Rogers, Reggie Williams. They have a combined 0 Pro Bowls.
                          Get out of the first round TT now!
                          Accumulating picks is ok when building foundation, but now the Pack needs to add special players. You can get one at #9.
                          Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Lurker64
                            Honestly, if Thompson does nothing but pick Defensive Linemen, Outside Linebackers, and Offensive Linemen this draft, I wouldn't be at all unhappy.
                            I agree to some extent, but I think after the top 4 picks he has to start looking at the whole team, there are other areas that need attention.

                            We need another TE. I love Lee (2 years running he caught the highest % of passes thrown his way of all TE's in the NFL with more than 20 passes, dude is clutch), and Finley has tons of upside, but a 3rd guy is needed. Not a high in the draft need, but still a need. One guy that has caught my eye is Cameron Morrah of Cal. He's undersized (6'-3", 244) and very young (a la Finley), but has a ton of positives. He's very fast (4.61 40, 1.57 10), has exceptional agility (for a TE, 6.99 3C, 4.36 SS), and is noted for exceptional hands and over the shoulder catching ability (same as Finley). He's a willing blocker (unlike Beckum) but still learning in that regard. He was very productive with his opportunities, scoring 8 times last year in 27 opportunities. Perfect really for the H-Back/versatile role that Humphrey filled. Nice thing about him, this draft is full of fast receiving TE's that aren't good blockers, his age and height bump him low down on the list relative to the others, he's probably worth a 3rd-4th, but sated demand will probably cause him to drop into the 5th.

                            We'll probably (gulp) take another WR. Not high necessarily, but Ruvell and Driver might not be with us much longer. Ruvell simply because he's better off not resigning with us, for his career, and Driver is slated to make 8M next year in a big dummy year. If he's not willing to take a big pay cut as part of an extension this year, he will go the way of Holt and Harrison this year, IMO they are going to start to purposely phase him out of the offense this year, Jordy and Jones are ready for more opportunities, I love Driver, but the guy has no nose for the end zone.

                            I could see us taking a day 2 back as well. If for nothing else to have enough good bodies for camp, and a guy to put on the PS, if we only keep 3 active backs, there has to be another on the PS.

                            A late DB wouldn't surprise me either. There is always a need for better developmental DB's, TT almost always takes at least 1 DB a draft.

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                            • #15
                              I think adding a true blocking TE makes more sense with Lee and Finley avail. as pass catchers. Having a guy on the line at 3rd and 1 or 2 willing to do the grunt work would be nice.

                              And a PS : why exactly don't teams have their backup fullback (provided they even have one anymore!) double as the 3rd string TE? Seems to me that's a really helpful thing - and frees up a roster spot for another position.
                              Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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