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    Jolly's case delayed again

    Johnny Jolly delayed his case again.

    Johnny Jolly's trial on felony drug charges in Houston has been carried over to Monday at the defendant's request, according to Donna Hawkins of the Harris County district attorney's office. Jolly's trial, which has been pushed back several times, was scheduled to start today. Jolly was arrested July 8 and charged with possessing over 200 grams of codeine.

    I never thought this case would go this far. If he takes the charge, I'd be shocked. There is no way in hell that DA can make the original charge of over 200 grams of codeine. It was one drink in the car's beverage holder. Around here, they very rarely bust guys just for "purple". It's tough for the crime labs to do all the analysis to figure out exactly how much codeine is present in the drink. They can do it, but it ain't worth the trouble. Most cops just bust the perps for public intox or DUI or possession of other related dope.

    I'd imagine Jolly cops to a simple possession charge, a high misdemeanor. The NFL may well still give him 4 games, but the odds of him taking a felony bust are really high.
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    Re: Jolly's case delayed again

    Originally posted by KYPack
    Johnny Jolly delayed his case again.

    Johnny Jolly's trial on felony drug charges in Houston has been carried over to Monday at the defendant's request, according to Donna Hawkins of the Harris County district attorney's office. Jolly's trial, which has been pushed back several times, was scheduled to start today. Jolly was arrested July 8 and charged with possessing over 200 grams of codeine.

    I never thought this case would go this far. If he takes the charge, I'd be shocked. There is no way in hell that DA can make the original charge of over 200 grams of codeine. It was one drink in the car's beverage holder. Around here, they very rarely bust guys just for "purple". It's tough for the crime labs to do all the analysis to figure out exactly how much codeine is present in the drink. They can do it, but it ain't worth the trouble. Most cops just bust the perps for public intox or DUI or possession of other related dope.

    I'd imagine Jolly cops to a simple possession charge, a high misdemeanor. The NFL may well still give him 4 games, but the odds of him taking a felony bust are really high.
    When have they done that to a first time non-'roid substance offender?

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    • #3
      This is a real interesting case. I would have expected a plea deal just to get it over with. What really makes it interesting is that Jolly's agent is actually a criminal defense attorney. He isn't defending Jolly in this case, but should be able to provide unique insight about the strengths and weaknesses of the charge. Clearly he should have Jolly's career at the forefront.

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      • #4
        Why Waldo, do you think he'll get more or less than a 4 game bump?

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        • #5
          Sounds like Waldo thinks fewer than four, but remember, Roger Goodell is tryng to make the NFL look tough on bad guys.

          Jolly will get some games off, I would guess.
          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

          KYPack

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          • #6
            He has to be convicted first, or plead out of the trial. There were some comments early from his agent that lead me to believe a conviction might not be so certain. The fact they are still fighting the charge is surprising, and might suggest a strong belief on his part that he is not culpable.

            If there is a plea deal, it might not support any suspension at all. A not guilty verdict wouldn't either.

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            • #7
              A not guilty would certainly seem to indicate no suspension - if he hasn't broke the law - and that medication is against the law in the amount/form he's claimed to have had it. It wouldn't be like baseball, where steroids were legal but banned in baseball.

              However, a plea bargain would lead me to think Goodell would see it as another chance to make the NFL look like it cares - by suspending Jolly for a game or four.
              "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

              KYPack

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              • #8
                200 grams of codeine? Where does that come from?!

                That's a lot ... and an expensive amount! If he's a first-time drug offender then I don't think he'll do any time.

                Had some "lean" last night myself... one of the few times. Definitely didn't come anywhere close to even 5 grams for the group... was he transporting/trafficking? Good experience in the studio but definitely don't drive a car on it -- and especially don't be drinking too! The effect is nothing different than certain pills they're prescribing nowadays.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by mission
                  200 grams of codeine? Where does that come from?!

                  That's a lot ... and an expensive amount! If he's a first-time drug offender then I don't think he'll do any time.

                  Had some "lean" last night myself... one of the few times. Definitely didn't come anywhere close to even 5 grams for the group... was he transporting/trafficking? Good experience in the studio but definitely don't drive a car on it -- and especially don't be drinking too! The effect is nothing different than certain pills they're prescribing nowadays.

                  It's a bogus charge. They had a purple in a container. The law he was busted under is to catch dealers. The cops are saying the DRINK was over 200 grams. They have to prove he had over 200 grams of codeine.

                  These criminal labs ain't gonna go thru all those change to analyze a purple and figure out exactly how much codeine was actually in the glass. For one thing, it's probably only a gram or two. No more than 5. It's simple criminal possession all the way.

                  Around here, if the cops WAY overcharge you like this, they toss the whole case out. Otherwise, the cops take advantage of situations.

                  I imagine Jolly's lawyer is going for just that. There is no way he should have been prosecuted under a ditribution statute.

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                  • #10
                    What's "lean"? What's "purple"?
                    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                    KYPack

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Fritz
                      What's "lean"? What's "purple"?
                      Lean and formerly purple:

                      [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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                      • #12
                        Sometimes I wonder if he farted when he did that.
                        "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                        KYPack

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                        • #13
                          I'm going to guess two games and some money.
                          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Fritz
                            What's "lean"? What's "purple"?
                            Liquid codeine mixed with Sprite (what I see around the studios) or purple carbonated soda in a Styrofoam cup (something to do with the whole equation I guess) and lots of ice.

                            As far as the effects, it's a lot like what you'd expect from codeine... slow motion, body relaxed. It's supposedly very addictive and I can see that cuz some of my clients definitely make it a nightly habit. You can't talk to them (out comes jumble) or even get them to open their eyes by 2-3am ... it usually cuts sessions short.

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                            • #15
                              http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/42149532.html


                              Jolly's trial pushed back to June 26, the day after Packer off-season practices end. Should know by training camp what his status is.
                              I can't run no more
                              With that lawless crowd
                              While the killers in high places
                              Say their prayers out loud
                              But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                              A thundercloud
                              They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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