Kampman on the Trading Block?

[mr_blonde]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=jc-potentialtrades040209&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

I kinda doubt it but what could Kampman bring if the Pack were willing to trade him?

[red]

i would think we could get something close to what the chiefs got for allen, a first and 2 thirds

[hoosier]

This is going to be considered heresy by some Packers fans, particularly since Kampman recorded 37 sacks over the past three seasons. However, in switching to the 3-4 defense under defensive coordinator Dom Capers, the Packers have put in a system where Kampman is going to be extremely limited. In short, Kampman is a high-motor athlete who operates best when he can attack a right offensive tackle from a three-point stance, using his initial burst and knowledge of hand techniques. When the Packers put Kampman out farther on the edge in a 3-4, his skills will be diminished. Furthermore, he’s never dropped into coverage on a regular basis, so that’s going to be a shock. Unless the Packers find a way to highlight Kampman’s strengths in some other way, he just doesn’t work in this system.

I have no idea who Jason Cole is, but what does he know about Kampman's success? A result of his "knowledge of hand techniques"? And why will his "skills" diminish when he lines up as a LOLB instead of a LE? Maybe Cole means his effectiveness will diminish.....

Whatever. Without seeing (a) what kind of alignments Capers implements as GB transitions from the Bates 4-3 and (b) without seeing Kampman actually play a year or more under this new defense, it's very hard to predict exactly what's going to happen. The 2009 Packers defesnse are not going to much like the 2008 Packers, but they probably won't resemble the 2008 Stelers very much either. Capers claims to be open to designing his schemes to suit his players' strengths. And GB probably couldn't get much more than a 2nd round draft pick for Kampman. No way would I trade a high effort, successful player for a 2.

[Lurker64]

Whatever. Without seeing (a) what kind of alignments Capers implements as GB transitions from the Bates 4-3 and (b) without seeing Kampman actually play a year or more under this new defense, it's very hard to predict exactly what's going to happen.

Well for an answer to (a), I imagine the way that he transitions the Bates 4-3 to the Capers 3-4 in Green Bay will be very similar to the way he transitioned the Bates 4-3 to the Capers 3-4 in Miami in 2006.

[HarveyWallbangers]

You know Cole doesn't know that much about Kampman when he calls him a high motor (e.g. athletically limited). Kind of funny that he has never been able to shake that tag. We'll see. I sent him a comment that Kampman played some LB at Iowa and that he ran a 4.65 40 coming out, so he's not as limited athletically as some seem to think.

[Noodle]

I agree that "high motor" can mean "athletically limited" or simply "white." But I think in Kampman's case it also describes his style. A term that also describes this style without the baggage of "high motor" is "relentless."

And I'd certainly call Kampman that to his face.

[mission]

Im not saying this is gonna happen or anything but wouldn't it be cool if Kampman took a big leap forward instead of regressing like we seem to be focusing on. Who knows, maybe he falls off the face of the earth, but part of me thinks he could really have an all-around year and get noticed outside of GB ... 4 ints, a couple TDs, few PFs.. 15 sacks.. I guess we'll see!

(I just wanted to be the first one to say it )

[packers11]

http://www.nfl.com/players/demarcusware/profile?id=WAR350675

Tell me how often he drops into coverage... Since my friend is a Cowboys fan , I watch most of the their games... D-Ware rushes the passer over 80% of the time....

Kampman will be fine, its not like the Packers will ask him to cover 50%+ of the time...

[Partial]

He'll be fine imo. It might actually improve his stats as Mission says. He won't be in coverage nearly enough to get those picks, but I could easily see 15 sacks if they land Maybin or Osackpo to line up opposite.

[rbaloha1]

Someone stole my idea. LOL If the price is right make the deal. The draft is filled with 3-4 personnel.

AK is a 4-3 end not a 3-4 olb.

[Gunakor]

Someone stole my idea. LOL If the price is right make the deal. The draft is filled with 3-4 personnel.

AK is a 4-3 end not a 3-4 olb.

Except what if he plays OLB for us this year and does well? Is he a 3-4 OLB then?

The guy played linebacker in college. It's not as if he's brand new to this.

[Dylan McKay]

You know Cole doesn't know that much about Kampman when he calls him a high motor (e.g. athletically limited). Kind of funny that he has never been able to shake that tag. We'll see. I sent him a comment that Kampman played some LB at Iowa and that he ran a 4.65 40 coming out, so he's not as limited athletically as some seem to think.

I think what he really wanted to say is that he is "white guy you know all those honkeys gotta have a good motor, and lots of heart."

[rbaloha1]

Someone stole my idea. LOL If the price is right make the deal. The draft is filled with 3-4 personnel.

AK is a 4-3 end not a 3-4 olb.

Except what if he plays OLB for us this year and does well? Is he a 3-4 OLB then?

The guy played linebacker in college. It's not as if he's brand new to this.

What if he does not? Based on his career AK has demonstrated being a dominant 4-3 end. What does high school have to do with the now?

[Gunakor]

Someone stole my idea. LOL If the price is right make the deal. The draft is filled with 3-4 personnel.

AK is a 4-3 end not a 3-4 olb.

Except what if he plays OLB for us this year and does well? Is he a 3-4 OLB then?

The guy played linebacker in college. It's not as if he's brand new to this.

What if he does not? Based on his career AK has demonstrated being a dominant 4-3 end. What does high school have to do with the now?

Now which is it, either he's NOT a 3-4 OLB, or he MIGHT not be a 3-4 OLB. You said he's not, and asked what if he is. Then you respond with this. So you don't know if he's an OLB or not. Thank you, that's all I wanted.

At least give the guy a chance to fail at OLB before saying he's a failure at OLB.

[rbaloha1]

Someone stole my idea. LOL If the price is right make the deal. The draft is filled with 3-4 personnel.

AK is a 4-3 end not a 3-4 olb.

Except what if he plays OLB for us this year and does well? Is he a 3-4 OLB then?

The guy played linebacker in college. It's not as if he's brand new to this.

What if he does not? Based on his career AK has demonstrated being a dominant 4-3 end. What does high school have to do with the now?

Now which is it, either he's NOT a 3-4 OLB, or he MIGHT not be a 3-4 OLB. You said he's not, and asked what if he is. Then you respond with this. So you don't know if he's an OLB or not. Thank you, that's all I wanted.

At least give the guy a chance to fail at OLB before saying he's a failure at OLB.

Why let AK fail if a potential good deal exists with a team outside of the NFC north?