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Contract reworked or not, Cutler will be in camp. He has 3 years left!And showed that he can be very good for almost 3 seasons. Cassel showed that he can keep an already great team in contention, but no longer make them great.
That along with the fact that KC will have to give a mega deal to a QB that was average at best in the system he was in.
The Cassel trade reminds me of the stupid trade the Bears made for Rick Mirer from Seattle who was the rookie of the year and the next year just fell off. I remember Mel Kiper screaming that he was the Bears answer to a future franchise QB, just like he has said Cutler has always been overrated since college, and the Bears made a big mistake...The infamous Hair will be wrong once again.
Once you get tape on one year QB's, defenses tend to learn their tendencies and shut them down. I think this may be true for Cassel.
And why do most of you and other pundits insist on saying they gave up the farm for a Pro-bowl QB? They swapped QB's, got a 5th, and gave away 1st this year and next year, along with ONE of their 3rds. A good deal in my opinion. But time will tell.
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I envy you your confidence he'll be in camp. I just can't see it, every team runs into that - we've got Tramon to deal with this year.
Otherwise I do pretty much agree with what you're saying, DaBBear *shudder*. And I think the price they paid in picks for Cassel is fair, but that contract...I also happen to think they took a reasonable chance on Cutler. More picks then they should've for a guy who's got a big Q mark due to his behavior - but if he plays for that contract, I'd say they're playing the same odds KC is.
I will say though that I get a kick out of how often I've seen the words 'Pro Bowl' prefixed to his name, but whatever, he was there. Every time I see his name now I see 'pro-bowl QB' in front of it. How come Kurt Warner's name isn't lit up like that?
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Come on man, he got pissed ONE time and it hit the news ..Whooopee. Unlike T.O. or other players that actually has some SERIOUS issues, there is not one player that had not one thing sour or questionable about him. Not even other players from other teams.Originally posted by GuinessI envy you your confidence he'll be in camp. I just can't see it, every team runs into that - we've got Tramon to deal with this year.
Otherwise I do pretty much agree with what you're saying, DaBBear *shudder*. And I think the price they paid in picks for Cassel is fair, but that contract...I also happen to think they took a reasonable chance on Cutler. More picks then they should've for a guy who's got a big Q mark due to his behavior - but if he plays for that contract, I'd say they're playing the same odds KC is.
I will say though that I get a kick out of how often I've seen the words 'Pro Bowl' prefixed to his name, but whatever, he was there. Every time I see his name now I see 'pro-bowl QB' in front of it. How come Kurt Warner's name isn't lit up like that?
And you dont see ProBowl QB behind Warners name on here because their are no Cardinal fans on this board..lol.
Go ahead and debate with a Cardinal fan about Warner in Comparison to your QB, and I can bet you they are gonna mention ProBowl QB, SB QB, etc... in each post
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I don't get why people put so much interest in the 'pro bowl' label...
If Lord Favre didn't drop out (as usual) Cutler would have been sitting home... And Rivers defiantly outplayed emo boy (Cutler)
Like in years past, when D Hall made it in favor of Al Harris, it was a total joke... I think Al Harris let up 1 td the whole year...
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Ok, lets forget any label "for your case"...I will just say the Bears are happy to have a QB that will make a difference for years to come.Originally posted by packers11I don't get why people put so much interest in the 'pro bowl' label...
If Lord Favre didn't drop out (as usual) Cutler would have been sitting home... And Rivers defiantly outplayed emo boy (Cutler)
Like in years past, when D Hall made it in favor of Al Harris, it was a total joke... I think Al Harris let up 1 td the whole year...
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fair enough... it was an upgrade... But like the Colts/Packers in 2003 and the Pats in 07... No matter how good your offense is, if there are other holes on the team (esp defense) you'll never win...Originally posted by DabaddestbearOk, lets forget any label "for your case"...I will just say the Bears are happy to have a QB that will make a difference for years to come.Originally posted by packers11I don't get why people put so much interest in the 'pro bowl' label...
If Lord Favre didn't drop out (as usual) Cutler would have been sitting home... And Rivers defiantly outplayed emo boy (Cutler)
Like in years past, when D Hall made it in favor of Al Harris, it was a total joke... I think Al Harris let up 1 td the whole year...
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I agree with Harvey that too much is put on Cassel being good as to where he was.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersI think Chicago paid a fair price for Cutler. I think Kansas City got a steal with Cassel. I like the KC trade more. Cassel has only one good year while Cutler has two, but I think they are relatively comparable as prospects. I'm one that isn't buying Cassel was only good because of the team.
Cutler's a good QB and I think Chi overpaid for him. Not grossly overpaid, but mildly overpaid.
In comparison of the 2 deals, I would have rather have had my team done the Cassel one.All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!
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Snake voted the majority before he looked at the poll...but based on the fact Cutler is cancer/punk bitch with immense talent and alotta draft picks....the other scenario gives you time to sort it out for much less picks (both draft and game-wise) for a similar player. The Bears don't need a QB to throw 30 TD's and 20 picks..They need a winner...Cutler is not that guy. Sorry Partial and you crazy Bear fans who showed up here lately to post mad-like like Mountain-Dew laden 10 year olds. So sorry.
Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.
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