Mock Draft Poll for Packers Pick

[3irty1]

Off the board are:

1. Stafford
2. Jason Smith
3. Aaron Curry
4. Eugene Monroe
5. Micheal Crabtree
6. Andre Smith
7. B.J. Raji
8. Jeremy Maclin

If you select "Someone else" Please specify who.

[sheepshead]

Let it lapse.

[sheepshead]

draft day cap.

[Gunakor]

If picking at #9 I could see any of the top 3 on that list. I guess I'd rather trade down and pick Jackson in the 13-19 range, but I doubt TT makes that trade given that he'd almost definitely have to give greater value in return to move out of the top 10. So, while I don't particularly like the pick a whole lot, I think Oher will be the pick in this scenario. Which means we'll be paying top 10 money and guarantees for a RT. Yuck.

[gbpackfan]

A RT for a year. Clifton will be gone after 2009 and Oher could slide over. Oher would be a great pick at 9. He is probably the best T in the draft. People are too hung up on his "learning disability." See that guy, go block him! Done deal (I know, it's not quite that easy. But if Pacman Jones, Tank Johnson, and Chad Johnson can grasp the game, Oher will be able to.)

The Packer can find a rush LB in round 2 and a 3-4 DE in round 3.

[Gunakor]

A RT for a year. Clifton will be gone after 2009 and Oher could slide over. Oher would be a great pick at 9. He is probably the best T in the draft. People are too hung up on his "learning disability." See that guy, go block him! Done deal (I know, it's not quite that easy. But if Pacman Jones, Tank Johnson, and Chad Johnson can grasp the game, Oher will be able to.)

The Packer can find a rush LB in round 2 and a 3-4 DE in round 3.

Or they could just slide Colledge over to LT for half the price and draft a RT in round 2 who is just as capable of playing RT as anyone else. When drafting they have to consider who they already have on the roster, and IMO they already have a LT to replace Clifton. No need to spend top 10 money there.

[Partial]

Then you spent 4 years developing a guard and for what? Do you spend another 4 years developing the next guy?

MM has said that Colledge is gonna stay at G if I remember correctly.

[Waldo]

A RT for a year. Clifton will be gone after 2009 and Oher could slide over. Oher would be a great pick at 9. He is probably the best T in the draft. People are too hung up on his "learning disability." See that guy, go block him! Done deal (I know, it's not quite that easy. But if Pacman Jones, Tank Johnson, and Chad Johnson can grasp the game, Oher will be able to.)

The Packer can find a rush LB in round 2 and a 3-4 DE in round 3.

No.....they can't. If Moala is off the board, the next reasonable 3-4 DE frame is in the 5th-7th round areas with Everette Pedescleux, Nadar Abdallah, and Pannel Egboah.

There is a big drop from Jackson to the next tier (Hood, Gilbert), a big drop to the next guy (Moala), and a huge free fall to the next guy, who probably isn't even good enough to make it above the PS year 1.

My pick, in this scenario is:


The best 3-4 DE prospect to come around since Richard Seymore in 2001.

Gilbert has the frame and measurables, and can rush a bit, but is not good against the run at all, Hood has the frame and measurables and is more stout against the run, but is nowhere near the polished player. Earlier in his career, LSU actually ran some 3-4 fronts where Jackson played 5-tech.

[sheepshead]

Then you spent 4 years developing a guard and for what? Do you spend another 4 years developing the next guy?

MM has said that Colledge is gonna stay at G if I remember correctly.

Guards rarely see the end of that second contract as an active player.

[Partial]

what?

[Gunakor]

Then you spent 4 years developing a guard and for what? Do you spend another 4 years developing the next guy?

MM has said that Colledge is gonna stay at G if I remember correctly.

They spent 4 years developing a tackle into a guard. He's a natural tackle. He would have been a tackle, but we have had 2 pretty outstanding tackles ahead of him. Rather than waste him away on the sidelines they put him in at guard to get him into the game. But the fact remains that Colledge is a natural tackle, and I don't see him playing guard for his whole career. He'll be a guard until Clifton is done.

They wouldn't have had to spend 4 years developing him into a guard if he was a guard to begin with. They won't have to spend 4 years developing the next guy if the next guy they draft is, you guessed it, a GUARD. Hell, they could spend a 2nd round pick on a natural guard in the next year or two and plug him right in, and probably wouldn't lose much at the position. Colledge is not a great guard by any means. He'd be a better tackle.

This whole idea of yours that a player is what he is and cannot be anything else is really disappointing. Especially when you don't know what the player is in the first place. Colledge is a great example. Colledge is a tackle who was able to play guard. He's still a tackle. He's just playing guard. I guess he isn't who he is, is he?

[Waldo]

MM has said that Colledge is gonna stay at G if I remember correctly.

As opposed to RT.

RT isn't nearly as important as people make it out to be. You can get by and excel with a good run blocker at RT, even if he is only a mediocre pass blocker, as long as your QB isn't crap.

I do think that Colledge will give them serious pause when considering LT's however, as any LT would have to be better than Colledge, which is surely not a given with most of them.

[sheepshead]

what?

They dont last. Statistically they dont play that long. They retire. Look it up.

[BallHawk]

We must get Orakpo.

[Waldo]

what?

They dont last. Statistically they dont play that long. They retire. Look it up.

That is true for most players. Players peak between 26-31. Before that they typically are mistake prone young'uns (you are better off with them developing on the bench), after that they are injury prone and declining old guys.

It is practically a myth to take a guy "and be set for a decade." QB and LT are really the only positions where that is typically true. There are at best 5-10 players in a draft that will start for 10+ years for a single team.

Clifton has been the starter now for 8 1/2 seasons, Driver has been the starter for 7 seasons, they are the longest tenured starting Packers. I doubt either makes it to 10 full years starting for the Packers.

Basically 1/5th of the "good" players in the NFL turn over every year, it is very rare for any player to be considered "good" for more than 7-8 years.