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  • Top 10 Rookie Quarterbacks

    What do Brett Favre, Bart Starr, and Terry Bradshaw have in common? Besides winning Super Bowls and being Hall of Fame quarterbacks, they all had awful rookie seasons in the league. It's hard to play QB in the NFL and most players really struggle at the position their first year. This is a list of guys who were different. They started quickly in their pro careers.

    Each player on this list "got it". They came in as young kids, but by the close of their respective seasons, they were "the man" for their teams. If this doesn't start an argument, I don't what in the hell will.

    1. Sammy Baugh If you lead the NFL in passing and you take your team to the NFL championship, that's strong. Slingin' Sam did just that on his way to the HOF. Sammy was a totally modern QB and played a great safety in the two way days. Sammy was clutch in the NFL championship game and the Skins rode on his back to a 28-21 comeback victory over the Chicago Bears to win the title in 1937. In the big game with his team trailing the Bears in the 3rd quarter, Sammy threw 3 touchdown passes to twice bring Washington back in the game. A rookie QB has to do that again to knock Sammy off the top spot.

    2. Dan Marino has been cited as the best rookie quarterback of all time in many such all time listings. He had a very fast release and was a top flight NFL passer right out of the chute. Marino as a rookie made the Miami Dolphins instantly better. Dan started 9 and played in 11 games in 1983, his first season. Marino completed 173 of 296 attempts as a rookie quarterback. His 2,210 passing yards were ok but what set him apart was his touchdown pass to interception numbers. 20 passing touchdowns against 6 interceptions is amazing for a rookie quarterback.


    3 Matt Ryan Simply an amazing rookie QB. Ryan came in with a bad team with the Atlanta Falcons, playing for a rookie coach and trying to replace Michael Vick. Completing 265 of 434 passes for 3,440 yards is a nice season for any QB, much less a first year guy. Matt Ryan has a 61.1 pass completion percentage and threw 16 touchdowns versus 11 interceptions. Leading the Falcons into the 2008 NFL Playoffs showed his great skill at the position Matt Ryan also set a rookie record with 20 completions in a post season game.

    4. Peyton Manning set rookie passing records in attempts, completions, yards, and touchdowns. A high interception total and low number of team wins puts him 4th on this elite list.

    5. Ben Roethlisberger managed the game better than any rookie quarterback. He led his team to a 13-0 record as a starter, including an upset victory over the Patriots, breaking their 21 game win streak. He led the Steelers to the AFC Championship game, before losing to New England.
    6. Fran Tarkington. The son of a preacher man, "Tarky" threw 4 touchdown passes in his first NFL start and never looked back. Often controversial and criticized for his rambling, scrambling approach, Tarkington was solid in every season he played, including a stellar rookie year. Named to the HOF in '86.

    7. Greg Cook A man totally forgotten by most fans, Cook remains the elusive star that never made it past his rookie year, but what a year it was. Cook played well before being injured, then returned later to keep playing well. Greg Cook completed 107 of 200 passes for 1,854 yards. In addition he threw 15 touchdown passes versus 11 interceptions on a weak Cincinnati Bengals team. It is a shame that he only played two seasons due to injury. Bill Walsh was his offensive coordinator and Walsh always maintained Cook was the best QB he'd coached and lamented the fact his only top season was his first.

    8 Bob Waterfield When I was a young fan, the list of all-time great rookie QB's always started with two names, Baugh and Waterfield. Waterfield is rarely mentioned with the top guns anymore, but what he did in his first season cannot be ignored. Waterfield made the same accomplishment that Slingin' Sammy did, he lead his Cleveland Rams to the NFL Championship his first year. Waterfield lead the NFL in both TD passes and interceptions in his rookie year of 1945, but was named league MVP. He would do that throughout his career (lots of picks), but it didn't keep him from making the HOF in '65

    9 Joe Namath (AFL) I didn't include AFL QB's in this list, there were a lot of them in the early AFL teams. But Joe was different (+ I love Joe Willie), he played under a lot of pressure after signing a huge contract with the New York Jets. "Broadway" Joe was the face of the AFL and he came through and had a great season. In 1965 Joe Namath completed 164 of 340 passing attempts. Passing for 2,220 yards, 18 touchdowns and 15 interceptions, Namath showed flashes of his great future at the quarterback position.

    10. Joe Flacco. You could definitely put Flacco higher on this list. Most lists wouldn't include Cook, for instance, but Flacco does deserve mention in a "call of the roll" of great first year QB's. Flacco is only the 8th rookie to start a play-off game in post merger history (So not counting Waterfield and Baugh). Flacco is the first rookie quarterback to win two playoff games in one year and wound up the year as the Ravens unquestioned maximum leader.

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    Nobody likes this thread, eh?

    Here's a wierd list I found of Rookie QB's

    8 Rookie QB's to start a play-off game, post merger

    Matt Ryan
    Joe Flacco
    Ben Roethlisberger
    Shaun King
    Todd Marinovich
    Dan Marino
    Jim Everett
    Bernie Kosar

    Todd Marinovich?, man I don't remember that one.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by KYPack
      Nobody likes this thread, eh?
      I don't think it is that, but hell, Skinbasket is making an abject fool of himself again, in the other thread, and I think people are just watching him in wonder. If this tantrum doesn't work, I guess we'll see pages and pages of gay porn again...

      As to your original thread, I don't remember a few of those QB's. I have heard of most of them, except for Greg Cook....

      I hope that Ryan and Flacco haven't peaked, it was fun to watch and root for them last season. It would be really nice to have the sports media focus on somebody other than Brady & Manning.

      I never liked Namath much, to much talk for me.

      Marinovich had to be an injury replacement. I don't remember him ever having a string of good starts much less a string of starts.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by retailguy
        Originally posted by KYPack
        Nobody likes this thread, eh?
        I don't think it is that, but hell, Skinbasket is making an abject fool of himself again, in the other thread, and I think people are just watching him in wonder. If this tantrum doesn't work, I guess we'll see pages and pages of gay porn again...

        As to your original thread, I don't remember a few of those QB's. I have heard of most of them, except for Greg Cook....

        I hope that Ryan and Flacco haven't peaked, it was fun to watch and root for them last season. It would be really nice to have the sports media focus on somebody other than Brady & Manning.

        I never liked Namath much, to much talk for me.

        Marinovich had to be an injury replacement. I don't remember him ever having a string of good starts much less a string of starts.
        Todd started the Raiders play-off game in '91 against the Chiefs. He got his only regular season start against 'em the previous week and played well. He stunk in the play-off game and was out of the NFL in a couple years.

        On April 3, 2009 he was arrested in Newport Beach after he failed to appear in court for a progress review for his 2007 arrest. He's a drug addict bum as we speak.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by KYPack
          Originally posted by retailguy
          Originally posted by KYPack
          Nobody likes this thread, eh?
          I don't think it is that, but hell, Skinbasket is making an abject fool of himself again, in the other thread, and I think people are just watching him in wonder. If this tantrum doesn't work, I guess we'll see pages and pages of gay porn again...

          As to your original thread, I don't remember a few of those QB's. I have heard of most of them, except for Greg Cook....

          I hope that Ryan and Flacco haven't peaked, it was fun to watch and root for them last season. It would be really nice to have the sports media focus on somebody other than Brady & Manning.

          I never liked Namath much, to much talk for me.

          Marinovich had to be an injury replacement. I don't remember him ever having a string of good starts much less a string of starts.
          Todd started the Raiders play-off game in '91 against the Chiefs. He got his only regular season start against 'em the previous week and played well. He stunk in the play-off game and was out of the NFL in a couple years.

          On April 3, 2009 he was arrested in Newport Beach after he failed to appear in court for a progress review for his 2007 arrest. He's a drug addict bum as we speak.
          91... Jeez that was a long time ago.

          What a sad case. More money than he knew what to do with an he put it all up his nose, or in his arm, or whatever. pathetic.

          Very few QB's play well as a rookie. Wish I could've seen Sammy Baugh play. too old for me.

          Tell me about Greg Cook? Were you in bengal land then? Was it just injuries or did playing for the bengals help?

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          • #6
            Well, I for one love the thread, KY. Played hard, done good.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Tarlam!
              Well, I for one love the thread, KY. Played hard, done good.
              nice thread KY.
              Busting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006

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              • #8
                when did brady get his big break, was that his second year or his rookie year?

                nvm, i looked it up. it was his second year

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by retailguy
                  Originally posted by KYPack
                  Originally posted by retailguy
                  Originally posted by KYPack
                  Nobody likes this thread, eh?
                  I don't think it is that, but hell, Skinbasket is making an abject fool of himself again, in the other thread, and I think people are just watching him in wonder. If this tantrum doesn't work, I guess we'll see pages and pages of gay porn again...

                  As to your original thread, I don't remember a few of those QB's. I have heard of most of them, except for Greg Cook....

                  I hope that Ryan and Flacco haven't peaked, it was fun to watch and root for them last season. It would be really nice to have the sports media focus on somebody other than Brady & Manning.

                  I never liked Namath much, to much talk for me.

                  Marinovich had to be an injury replacement. I don't remember him ever having a string of good starts much less a string of starts.
                  Todd started the Raiders play-off game in '91 against the Chiefs. He got his only regular season start against 'em the previous week and played well. He stunk in the play-off game and was out of the NFL in a couple years.

                  On April 3, 2009 he was arrested in Newport Beach after he failed to appear in court for a progress review for his 2007 arrest. He's a drug addict bum as we speak.
                  91... Jeez that was a long time ago.

                  What a sad case. More money than he knew what to do with an he put it all up his nose, or in his arm, or whatever. pathetic.

                  Very few QB's play well as a rookie. Wish I could've seen Sammy Baugh play. too old for me.

                  Tell me about Greg Cook? Were you in bengal land then? Was it just injuries or did playing for the bengals help?
                  Cook is an NFL "Lost Treasure" kinda guy. Was only totally healthy for the first 3 games of the '69 season. Hurt his shoulder against the Chiefs. The whole thing was mysterious, nobody could really figure out what play was the one he was hurt on. He had a cannon arm. The player he most resembles is Marino. Danny had a little quicker release, Greg a stronger arm. That may sound crazy, but it's true.

                  Many football experts - including then Bengal's assistant coach Bill Walsh - say that had it not been for that injury, Cook may very well have gone on to be the greatest quarterback of all time. The NFL Network Top Ten series named Cook the #1 One Shot Wonder in NFL History.

                  He recovered to play the rest of the '69 season, his arm recovered, then deteriorated after crude attempts at surgery, no sports medicine then.

                  I didn't get here to the mid seventies & the locals were still talking about him and hoping he'd come back.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by KYPack
                    Many football experts - including then Bengal's assistant coach Bill Walsh - say that had it not been for that injury, Cook may very well have gone on to be the greatest quarterback of all time. The NFL Network Top Ten series named Cook the #1 One Shot Wonder in NFL History.

                    He recovered to play the rest of the '69 season, his arm recovered, then deteriorated after creda attempts at surgery, no sports medicne then.

                    I didn't get here to the mid seventies & the locals were still talking about him and hoping he'd come back.
                    I saw that particular episode - had never heard of him before. Was very interesting.
                    Busting drunk drivers in Antarctica since 2006

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by retailguy
                      Originally posted by KYPack
                      Nobody likes this thread, eh?
                      I don't think it is that, but hell, Skinbasket is making an abject fool of himself again, in the other thread, and I think people are just watching him in wonder. If this tantrum doesn't work, I guess we'll see pages and pages of gay porn again...
                      And you just keep making him look right.

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                      • #12
                        Very good list. Wish I had more opportunities to see Flacco I guess. I wasn't super impressed with him in my limited exposure.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Partial
                          Very good list. Wish I had more opportunities to see Flacco I guess. I wasn't super impressed with him in my limited exposure.
                          That's a difference. You might've seen him have weak game on TV. He stunk in Tenn, fer instance.

                          I saw him in November. He threw a 70 yard pass to Mark Clayton that was a true seed. I was real impressed with that boy. Then if you look at the numbers, he was a big thing.

                          I really looked that stuff up to settle an argument after golf last weekend. We were arguing that Flacco and Ryan are the best pair of rookies in NFL history. Our opponents said no way.

                          So I looked this stuff up. Flacco and Ryan are the best pair of rookie QB's in NFL history by a pretty wide margin. Most guys you think were rooks were really in their second year.

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                          • #14
                            There is an interesting footnote to the stuff I dug up on Greg Cook. Cook's leading WR was a guy named Eric Crabtree. The highlight films they show around here always show a 70 TD bomb Cook threw to Crabtree. The ball travels all of the 70 in the air, hitting Crabtree in the hands right in the endzone, a true "holy shit' kind of pass.

                            Got me wondering if Eric Crabtree was related to Michael Crabtree. They are both WR's of similar size. Near as I can figure out, they are no relation. Michael Crabtree's father is named Michael Crabtree. They are from Dallas. Is Eric Crabtree a long lost uncle? I couldn't figure/google it out.

                            If any of our resident brainiac/research artists find out something, lemme know. I'm curious.

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                            • #15
                              Favre's first year was hardly aweful. 9-7, 15td's and 13 ints, 3000+ yards.

                              He wasn't great, but he wasn't horrible either. Unless your going back to atlanta where he "didn't play".

                              I always consider the rookie season to be the first year you are teh starter.

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