ted takes it to a whole new level

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we all know tt loves to stroke is ego by trying to find diamonds in the rough, but this is getting out of hand

now he's going after guys that didn't even play college ball and haven't played the game in 4 years

from pft

Packers Looking At Duke Basketball Player
Posted by Aaron Wilson on April 13, 2009, 8:12 p.m.

The Green Bay Packers have worked out Duke University basketball player Greg Paulus, according to a league source.

Paulus is a former high school Gatorade Football Player of the Year selection who was offered football scholarships to Notre Dame and the University of Miami, but chose to play basketball at Duke.

Paulus was a three-year starter for the Blue Devils at point guard who was once named second-team All-ACC. He was a third-team Academic All-American selection.

A four-time all-state football player in New York, Paulus is listed at 6′1,” 180 pounds on the Duke basketball roster.

Paulus set six New York state passing records, including career passing yards (11,763). He threw 152 touchdown passes in 45 career games, leading his high school to a 42-3 record with him under center.

Paulus was the starting quarterback in the U.S. Army All-American game, also garnering All-American football honos from Parade Magazine.

for one, we do not need a qb, much less one that hasn't played college ball. and two, why the fuck is he wasting his time on shit like this at this crucial point in scouting?

like i mentioned in another thread, every other team out there is interviewing and working out potential first and second round picks like crazy. every player they might draft they bring in and talk to and work out.

not us. the only guys we're bringing in are possible late round gems. it almost seems like TT cares more about those late round picks the his first rounder.

to me there is absolutely no excuse why he hasn't brought in every possible first day draft pick over the last month and a half and had complete workouts with them

he's a scout, nothing more imo

[bobblehead]

so, are you sure he hasn't brought in several guys that might go #9? Is there so much more to learn than he has learned already? Would you rather he doesn't even look at a guy who is a fantastic athlete?

Don't misunderstand, I think this guy won't ever play a down in the NFL, but the reaction you are having shows your bias pretty badly. TT has watched more hours of tape on college guys than you will work in the next 2 years.

If you are really looking to start another "what the hell is TT doing" thread I think you can do better than this.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Paulus was actually one of the most highly recruited QBs out of high school when he came out. Most thought he'd play QB at a major college (I thought Florida State was the frontrunner) and also try basketball. Instead, he went with the sport that he wasn't as highly rated in.

[Lurker64]

Ted uses all of his allowed visits to look at guys he doesn't have enough tape on and guys he didn't have the opportunity to scout live during the season. First day picks, and guys who didn't play football in major conferences are guys he has no shortage of scouting on, and has been done scouting for weeks if not months. If you saw a guy live, have hours and hours, and hours of tape on him, and you've spoken to him at his pro day and at the combine, why do you need to bring him in for a visit? Plus, this is not a "crucial time of scouting". This is like cramming for a test two hours before you have to take it, if you aren't done already it's too late.

Plus, he's scouting this guy to be a TE, not a QB. Basketball players with little football experience sometimes turn out to be great TEs in the NFL (c.f. Antonio Gates, who didn't play football in college at all).

[pittstang5]

so, are you sure he hasn't brought in several guys that might go #9? Is there so much more to learn than he has learned already? Would you rather he doesn't even look at a guy who is a fantastic athlete?

Don't misunderstand, I think this guy won't ever play a down in the NFL, but the reaction you are having shows your bias pretty badly. TT has watched more hours of tape on college guys than you will work in the next 2 years.

If you are really looking to start another "what the hell is TT doing" thread I think you can do better than this.

Well said Bobble. I'm sure TT knows all that he wants to know by now about the well known first and second round talents. TT has always kept details close to his vest. This isn't new a concept here. TT or the Packers for that matter, have never brought in the big name or potential 1st or 2nd round talents to GB as long as TT has been running the show.

[Joemailman]

Ted uses all of his allowed visits to look at guys he doesn't have enough tape on and guys he didn't have the opportunity to scout live during the season. First day picks, and guys who didn't play football in major conferences are guys he has no shortage of scouting on, and has been done scouting for weeks if not months. If you saw a guy live, have hours and hours, and hours of tape on him, and you've spoken to him at his pro day and at the combine, why do you need to bring him in for a visit? Plus, this is not a "crucial time of scouting". This is like cramming for a test two hours before you have to take it, if you aren't done already it's too late.

Plus, he's scouting this guy to be a TE, not a QB. Basketball players with little football experience sometimes turn out to be great TEs in the NFL (c.f. Antonio Gates, who didn't play football in college at all).

He's scouting Paulus to be a TE? The story says he's 6-1, 180.

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so, are you sure he hasn't brought in several guys that might go #9? Is there so much more to learn than he has learned already? Would you rather he doesn't even look at a guy who is a fantastic athlete?

Don't misunderstand, I think this guy won't ever play a down in the NFL, but the reaction you are having shows your bias pretty badly. TT has watched more hours of tape on college guys than you will work in the next 2 years.

If you are really looking to start another "what the hell is TT doing" thread I think you can do better than this.

no he hasn't. agents usually leak when there players visit a team to stir up more interest in them, so its not like tt is bringing them it and keeping a lid on it. waldo gave a list a couple days ago and it was like 10 later round guys. he did say though that they talked to a lot of guys at the combine. but why the hell stop at that?

bring in andre smith, find out if he's really nuts, or whats going on there

bring in raji and have him talk to you about the drug rumors, face to face

bring in cushing and give him a piss tests and ask him about the roid rumors

bring in jerron gilbert and run him through lb drills and have him go over some game film to see if he can play and understand the lber position

bring in all these guys and ask them tough questions

these guys should be getting interviewed more then just once or twice at the combine

it just looks to be like tt is leaving a whole lot of stones unturned and not doing everthing he should be at this point

[MJZiggy]

It said the Green Bay Packers. Not Ted Thompson. Who on earth knows who the kid met with. I somehow doubt it was TT, though.

[pittstang5]

How do you know that TT or more importantly his scouts haven't already done the things you are asking him to do? You make it seem like TT doesn't do his homework. The guy gets paid to find talent and build a team...let him do his job.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Eric Swann - 10 years, 2 pro bowls, 2 all pro
Otis Sistrunk - 7 years, 1 pro bowl
Stephen Neal
Vince Papale

Yep, i would hate to have any player like that on the Packers.

[pbmax]

If I recall correctly, Ted has never brought in first day guys to Green Bay. He doesn't want to tip his hand.

But I would suspect that even Waldo's list is missing a few names. Scout.com tracks this stuff but doesn't have anywhere near the 30 names that would represent the Packers full allotment.

On the other hand, the Packer's have dispatched scouts and coaches to go back to players they want to visit again if there is new info during this month. So Raji might have met with the Packers outside of Green Bay after the rumors.

But remember, the Raji rumors are either fact or fiction. There is no he said-BJ said here. His name is either on the list or it isn't. And the Packers know this by now. There may be no reason to talk to him. The agents said he never received the letter and the program admin would not talk to him. Unless they are flat out lying, he is probably in the clear.

[Lurker64]

He's scouting Paulus to be a TE? The story says he's 6-1, 180.

Or a WR or a RB. There's no way Thompson would scout a guy to be a QB if he hasn't played QB in college, considering that most college QBs aren't going to be able to play QB in the NFL. He's basically being scouted as "an athlete" to see if there's a position for him.

[pbmax]

Red- The Packers cannot give Cushing their own urinalysis. And unlike us, the Packers already know if Cushing tested positive or not. They don't need another test, they have the combine drug test results.

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Red- The Packers cannot give Cushing their own urinalysis. And unlike us, the Packers already know if Cushing tested positive or not. They don't need another test, they have the combine drug test results.

i think thats something they should be allowed to do. if i go in for an interview for a job, i have to take a piss test.

and they aren't even throwing 30 million at me

as for raji. even if he did fail the test, he's at a position and a talent level that you would have to at least consider him at 9 if he's there. now, before the list comes out you bring him in and explain his side. if he comes clean and admits to toking up and explains it a one time thing, then maybe you still consider drafting the guy. however, if you sit him down and he tells you flat to your face that he doesn't smoke and hasn't in a long tim, and then if the list comes out and he's on it, then he's a guy you flat out take off your board

you can get a very good idea about a guy by getting him off the field and sitting him down in the office and just talking to him.

is he a thug? a party boy? a moron or idiot? is he smart, or level headed?

you can usually get a good idea about these things by just talking with someone for awhile

[sheepshead]

Maybe it's the PACERS that are working him out!