ted takes it to a whole new level

[red]

Maybe it's the PACERS that are working him out!

that would make a whole hell of a lot more sense

[Lurker64]

these guys should be getting interviewed more then just once or twice at the combine

you can usually get a good idea about these things by just talking with someone for awhile

Which of these statements should I believe? How many times do you have to interview a guy before you can determine he is/isn't nuts? Presumably all of these guys have been talked to by our scouts at least twice, and their coaches have been consulted. What's magical about talking to them three times versus twice?

(Also, for the record Jarron Gilbert will be playing DE in a 3-4, since he was an under-tackle in the 4-3, it's pretty much automatic that he can make the switch if he has the frame for it (he does), nobody on earth would have him do LB drills.)

[red]

yeah, i knew that about gilbert, somehow i got things all jumbled up during my rant

most people i know including myself have been brought in more then once for an interview. there's a reason for that

plus, how good of an interview do you get at the combine. what is it, like 15 minutes or so with each team, or 30 minutes. its like speed dating. plus the guys are being prepared for month by their agents to say certain thingsat those interviews.

i would want the guy in for a couple hours, without his agent, and discuss everything, to try and get to the real person, not just the robot the agent turned the guy into.

[PlantPage55]

We work out several basketball players every freaking year, god dammit. You act like this is a new, arrogant thing for TT to do. Get over your hate for him - it's making you look like a fool.

This is nothing out of the ordinary and we have never drafted a single ONE of them. It's just a curiosity to see if any one of these guys stand out.

As for bringing in #9 picks...why? We have ALL the tape and time at pro days with these guys that we need. Honestly, get a grip.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

yeah, i knew that about gilbert, somehow i got things all jumbled up during my rant

most people i know including myself have been brought in more then once for an interview. there's a reason for that

plus, how good of an interview do you get at the combine. what is it, like 15 minutes or so with each team, or 30 minutes. its like speed dating. plus the guys are being prepared for month by their agents to say certain thingsat those interviews.

i would want the guy in for a couple hours, without his agent, and discuss everything, to try and get to the real person, not just the robot the agent turned the guy into.

You are closing in on Partial territory.

No one is interested in what you think should happen, we are interested in what does happen. Your opinion of how to interview, etc...isn't reality. A couple of hours..LOL. Exactly how many players would you like us to evaluate?

A bunch of half truths and conjecture doesn't make it truth.

The NFL and Packers have been drafting/interviewing for years...with different coaches, GMs, etc...and yet, bad apples get chosen, bad apples fail and succeed...just as good players and role models fail.

No matter how you do things, it is a crapshoot.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

We work out several basketball players every freaking year, god dammit. You act like this is a new, arrogant thing for TT to do. Get over your hate for him - it's making you look like a fool.

This is nothing out of the ordinary and we have never drafted a single ONE of them. It's just a curiosity to see if any one of these guys stand out.

As for bringing in #9 picks...why? We have ALL the tape and time at pro days with these guys that we need. Honestly, get a grip.

Exactly. The point is to draft them..it is to see if they are worth a free agent contract. It isn't like the pack/TT is checking out every bball player...it is Greg freaking Paulus. All american QB in high school. If there is a guy to check out..this is one of them. Jesus, if Matt Cassel, who saw NO action on the field can develop, then why not Paulus?

I seem to recall the purdue center Jim Rowinski was invited to camp. Maybe i'm wrong, but i do recall a purdue center being drafted or invited...think it was the 80s.

But, not according to Red. But, i fucking guarantee you this...if Paulus was drafted and invited to another camp..and made the squad...Red would be ranting that TT wasn't searching hard enough for those type of players.

[Lurker64]

plus, how good of an interview do you get at the combine. what is it, like 15 minutes or so with each team, or 30 minutes. its like speed dating. plus the guys are being prepared for month by their agents to say certain thingsat those interviews.

As far as I know, Green Bay gathers character and personality information on candidates through the following sources:
1) Combine interviews.
2) Pro Day interviews.
3) Talking to the guy during practice weeks for college all star games (e.g. shrine game, senior bowl, etc.)
4) Talking to a guy's coaches.

I'd say that's enough different sources to gauge the top guys (who are the ones who are subject to the greatest scrutiny anyway), wouldn't you? I mean, if Michael Crabtree had an arrest for arson, ESPN would just tell you that, since it's a big story. If Greg Toller is a sociopath, that's not something you would necessarily learn from reading the paper though.

[Zool]

Paulus was actually one of the most highly recruited QBs out of high school when he came out. Most thought he'd play QB at a major college (I thought Florida State was the frontrunner) and also try basketball. Instead, he went with the sport that he wasn't as highly rated in.

IIR Harv, this kid is Ron Paulus' little brother and he was leaning toward ND.

BTW there's a guy in SD that didnt play much college football. He seems to be OK at football now.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Paulus was actually one of the most highly recruited QBs out of high school when he came out. Most thought he'd play QB at a major college (I thought Florida State was the frontrunner) and also try basketball. Instead, he went with the sport that he wasn't as highly rated in.

IIR Harv, this kid is Ron Paulus' little brother and he was leaning toward ND.

BTW there's a guy in SD that didnt play much college football. He seems to be OK at football now.

Zool,

I think you meant IIRI (incorrectly).

Ron POWLUS went to ND. Greg was the Gatorade National Player of the year in 04..and like Mauer..spurned football.

BTW, there seems to be a younger brother who learned from his brother's mistake.

http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=2250643

[Packnut]

Ted

so, are you sure he hasn't brought in several guys that might go #9? Is there so much more to learn than he has learned already? Would you rather he doesn't even look at a guy who is a fantastic athlete?

Don't misunderstand, I think this guy won't ever play a down in the NFL, but the reaction you are having shows your bias pretty badly. TT has watched more hours of tape on college guys than you will work in the next 2 years.

If you are really looking to start another "what the hell is TT doing" thread I think you can do better than this.

And what the hell does Teddy watching all that tape accomplish? Drafting Justin Harrell? I hate to break this to ya, but watching billions of hours of tape does not mean a damn thing if you can't evaluate what your watching.

[KYPack]

This is intrepreted as an "anti-TT" deal?

The Packer Organization is evaluating Paulus, not Thompson personally. I'm happy our scouts are doing a thorough job. Most teams don't have the resources in their scouting departments to do such a comprehnsive job.

We do have the manpower to get it done.

That's a good thing.

[cheesner]

Re: Ted

And what the hell does Teddy watching all that tape accomplish? Drafting Justin Harrell? I hate to break this to ya, but watching billions of hours of tape does not mean a damn thing if you can't evaluate what your watching.

Do you really expect a GM to hit on every pick? If TT hits on every pick it would be the first time for any GM in the history of the NFL.


Another source of player information: Teammates. Both current and former players - this is one of the best sources cause they know what the guy does when the coaches aren't around..

[Patler]

Re: Ted

And what the hell does Teddy watching all that tape accomplish? Drafting Justin Harrell? I hate to break this to ya, but watching billions of hours of tape does not mean a damn thing if you can't evaluate what your watching.

I suspect the tape he had on Harrell was actually impressive. Before his senior year, Harrell was projected as a top 10 pick by many.

It just amazes me how so many of you criticize the heck out of TT for being conservative, not taking a chance. Then he takes a chance on a highly talented player, it doesn't work out immediately, so you criticize him for that.

Even the very best of GMs miss on a heck of a lot of their draft picks.

[Gunakor]

Re: Ted

so, are you sure he hasn't brought in several guys that might go #9? Is there so much more to learn than he has learned already? Would you rather he doesn't even look at a guy who is a fantastic athlete?

Don't misunderstand, I think this guy won't ever play a down in the NFL, but the reaction you are having shows your bias pretty badly. TT has watched more hours of tape on college guys than you will work in the next 2 years.

If you are really looking to start another "what the hell is TT doing" thread I think you can do better than this.

And what the hell does Teddy watching all that tape accomplish? Drafting Justin Harrell? I hate to break this to ya, but watching billions of hours of tape does not mean a damn thing if you can't evaluate what your watching.

Harrell was an SEC stud. It's hard to watch billions of hours of tape on him from his days at Tennessee and not come away with that impression of him.

Honestly though, do you really think that missing on Harrell is the reason this team went 6-10 last season? Do you think that even if Harrell were healthy and dominating teams last season just the same as he was in college that we'd have been a 10 win team hosting a playoff game, even considering all of the other injuries to players not named Justin Harrell our defense had to overcome? Doubt it. If Harrell is the best knock against Thompson you can come up with, I think we're in pretty good shape.

[bobblehead]

Re: Ted

so, are you sure he hasn't brought in several guys that might go #9? Is there so much more to learn than he has learned already? Would you rather he doesn't even look at a guy who is a fantastic athlete?

Don't misunderstand, I think this guy won't ever play a down in the NFL, but the reaction you are having shows your bias pretty badly. TT has watched more hours of tape on college guys than you will work in the next 2 years.

If you are really looking to start another "what the hell is TT doing" thread I think you can do better than this.

And what the hell does Teddy watching all that tape accomplish? Drafting Justin Harrell? I hate to break this to ya, but watching billions of hours of tape does not mean a damn thing if you can't evaluate what your watching.

So what is your point?? I was responding to red who was complaining TT was doing the WRONG thing. I didn't say he was good at evaluating talent (in this thread) so your post has no point other than the one you interjected.

I hate to break it to ya, but posting that the sky is blue in a thread about the moon doesn't mean a damn thing if you can't figure out what the topic is.