ted takes it to a whole new level

[Fritz]

I think Packnut's finally posted himself into irrelevance.

I nominate that Packnut be stripped of the title cerebral rat and be designated hysterical rat.

I was thinking along those lines, Bobble. "Cerebral" ain't a word I'd associate with the Nut.

[red]

"Nobody has ever run 40 yards in less than 4.0 seconds, so you can throw anything that says it has happened straight out the window.

When Usain Bolt set the world record in the 100 meters a few months ago, he ran the first 40 yards in 4.22 seconds. The fastest 40-yard start ever recorded in a sanctioned 100-meter dash is Maurice Greene's 4.18 in 1999. Those are fully automatic times, minus reaction time.

The only "electronic" 40 times in football are at the Combine, and those use a hand start, so they're not fully automatic. You'd have to add the timer's reaction time in order to compare them to fully automatic track times."

Knowing the reaction time for most runners is .17ish, you can see where the numbers are greatly decrease at the combine (but one has to also factor in reaction time to stop clock, and that would probably cancel out the start reaction time?)

I tend to believe Bolt would be the best punt returner the game has ever seen. One cut and he's gone. Nobody, not even Chris Johnson, is going to come close to catching him.

i would guess he's in the 4.2 range. his start is by far the weakest part of his race, and at best he's neck and nck with all the others for the first half of the race. most of the time he's well behind at that point, except in the olympics where he got some great starts.

coming out of the block actually makes you faster, thats why they use blocks. but that would be offset by the whole reaction time thing

the best starters in the wold might run around 4.1, but he's nowhere near one of the best starters in the world

however his size-speed ratio is second to none, if he could learn the game and catch a ball he'd be unstopable

[sharpe1027]

Straight-line speed is all well and good, but football is as much about angles and change of direction as it is about speed. Barry Sanders didn't have outstanding straight line speed, especially at the end of his career. Compare Barry to a Michael Bennett, who was crazy fast in a straight line.

[Guiness]

Combine 40 #'s have little relation to track style sprinting; or reality for that matter.

Reaction time makes all the difference in the timing.

Partial - you mentioned reaction time being evened out by the reaction time of the stop clock (but one has to also factor in reaction time to stop clock, and that would probably cancel out the start reaction time?) but I'm pretty sure the finishes are done electronically. So the runner gets the benefit of the delayed start, but the stop is immediate.

So, using a reaction time of 0.15 sec all around, a football player takes off, 0.15 seconds later the manual timer hits the start button. At the track, the gun goes of, the timer automatically starts, 0.15 seconds later the sprinter takes off. So there's 0.3 seconds difference there.

There are two other factors. As mentioned before, the blocks. I don't know how much they help. But there's also the reaction time of the manual starter. HE'S not a world class athlete. Is his reaction time 0.15? I'd guess higher, meaning the difference between combine and track is even bigger.

All you can really hope for from combine numbers is consistency in the timings. I.E. all the WR's times were started by the same guy.

[Pugger]

Red, why are you all excited about the Packers looking at this young man? What is the big deal? He won't be drafted but he might be brought back this summer as a camp body unless he goes back to college ball. I don't have a problem with it. I seriously doubt AR or any of our other QBs on the roster are in any danger of this kid wowing the offensive coaching staff.

It is funny is a queer way. TT will get blasted by some no matter WHAT he does. TT doesn't sign any FAs that are household names to use the cap on resigning guys already on the roster and folks howl. Then he brings in FAs as backups and they bitch because the FAs are backups ( ). It's getting rather old...

[HarveyWallbangers]

I don't understand the angst either. Paulus could flop. However, we are talking about Greg Paulus... national high school football player of the year. This is a guy that came out more highly regarded than the likes of Matt Stafford, Mark Sanchez, Aaron Rodgers, etc. Sure, it's a difficult transition he's trying to make--maybe close to impossible considering he's been away from the game for four years. But why not at least check the guy out? What happens if Paulus goes to Michigan, starts, looks solid, and gets drafted next year?

[HarveyWallbangers]

What a great story. Paulus is playing pretty well in his first game in 5 years--as Syracuse is ahead of Minnesota 20-17 in the 3rd quarter. Syracuse went 3-9 last year.

[Tarlam!]

Sheez, Harv. You have one heck of a memory to dig this up.

[Fritz]

Getting back to the original idea of the thread, damn Teddy for picking through the scrap heap of undrafted free agents for guys like Obiozor and Sutton.

Why can't he be like other GM's?

[Tarlam!]

Getting back to the original idea of the thread,

Guilty

[red]

you mean that guy that just made one of the stupidest i've ever scene?

[HarveyWallbangers]

Sheez, Harv. You have one heck of a memory to dig this up.

I'm a Duke basketball fan, so I watched Paulus play (and not very well) for four years. Good kid though. He'll be a coach some day.

BTW, he choked in OT.

[HarveyWallbangers]

you mean that guy that just made one of the stupidest i've ever scene?

I'd give it up while you're behind. You sound like your bitching just to bitch. Personally, I like the fact that the GM will leave no stones unturned trying to dig up talent.

[red]

you mean that guy that just made one of the stupidest i've ever scene?

I'd give it up while you're behind. You sound like your bitching just to bitch. Personally, I like the fact that the GM will leave no stones unturned trying to dig up talent.

i'm just giving ya shit harv

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Sheez, Harv. You have one heck of a memory to dig this up.

I'm a Duke basketball fan, so I watched Paulus play (and not very well) for four years. Good kid though. He'll be a coach some day.

BTW, he choked in OT.

that explains a ton.