Changes to the offense?

[Waldo]

i hope he changes a lot because the offense, to me anyway, sucked for the most part. i know injuries and inexperience was a big factor but we were very predictable. as for anything wildcat...i'd be very surprised to see anything more than the odd play here and there...maybe a dozen plays the whole year.

There is next to nothing gained by being unpredictable......(if pass/run is what you define as predictable)

The offense is already unpredictable. The ZBS by it's nature does not define the hole until the back finds it, there is no set hole. There is very little advantage to knowing that we are running, as any attempt to correct for it leads to an audible or a different read by the back. Our passing game, predicated on audibles and option routes, with reads determined under center, likewise is completely unpredictable, there is no advantage to knowing that we are passing, adjust toward defending one thing, something else opens up.

If this was true a touchdown would happen on every drive. Ivory tower stuff.

A-Rod uses audibles very little due to a lack of game time experience.

My guess is more bootlegs, reverses, screens and 5 wr sets. Maybe MM trusts AR to call a run and pass play on every snap allowing AR to audible based on defense.

Do you actually watch the Packers, or just make stuff up because it sounds good? How many times did we have illegal man downfield because Aaron nodded to a WR and ran a pass play, while the rest of the team run blocked. Aaron calls a fair # of audibles, he actually audibles into runs, something that Brett pretty much didn't do. If Aaron calls his own protections (he does), he surely is free to audible as he sees fit.

A TD would not happen every drive. This is the same way the offense was for Brett. Execution wins football games, not unpredictability.

[Lurker64]

i hope he changes a lot because the offense, to me anyway, sucked for the most part. i know injuries and inexperience was a big factor but we were very predictable. as for anything wildcat...i'd be very surprised to see anything more than the odd play here and there...maybe a dozen plays the whole year.

There is next to nothing gained by being unpredictable......(if pass/run is what you define as predictable)

The offense is already unpredictable. The ZBS by it's nature does not define the hole until the back finds it, there is no set hole. There is very little advantage to knowing that we are running, as any attempt to correct for it leads to an audible or a different read by the back. Our passing game, predicated on audibles and option routes, with reads determined under center, likewise is completely unpredictable, there is no advantage to knowing that we are passing, adjust toward defending one thing, something else opens up.

If this was true a touchdown would happen on every drive. Ivory tower stuff.

A-Rod uses audibles very little due to a lack of game time experience.

My guess is more bootlegs, reverses, screens and 5 wr sets. Maybe MM trusts AR to call a run and pass play on every snap allowing AR to audible based on defense.

To echo what Waldo was saying:

Just because the offense is always unpredictable doesn't mean that it is always successful. Just because a passing play puts the defense on the disadvantage because it's nearly impossible for the defense to shut down every one of Rodgers's options doesn't mean that every pass will be completed. A defensive lineman can always make a play forcing a hasty throw, recording a sack, or batting down the ball. A defensive back can always make a play on the ball. The QB could always pick the wrong target or simply not throw the ball as well as he could. The WR could always stumble or drop the ball. Just because it's frequently impossible for the defense to take advantage of knowing what's coming doesn't mean the defense is hapless or the offense is supremely confident.

Zone runs by their nature don't have a specific hole picked out. The offensive lineman execute their blocks and the running back chooses the hole based on how the blocking goes. Knowing that it's coming doesn't mean that you can necessarily stop it since the only reliable way to stop it is to control all of the gaps, but if you control all of the gaps, you can stop any running play. By contrast, if the defense knows for certain that the next running play is a draw (or a trap/counter/dive/sweep/toss) means that the defense should be able to stop it almost all of the time, since if they know the play and they know what hole it's going through, you just make sure there's no hole there and the play is broken.

What McCarthy's offense does is minimize the opportunities where the defense will defeat the offense on the field simply by having the correct defense called. In that sense it is unpredictable, since in general there are no "silver bullet" defensive calls that defeat specific plays. The success or failure of the play just comes down to offensive talent and execution vs. defensive talent and execution.

[SnakeLH2006]

I think it means he's bringing back Kevin Barry and the U-89 Package. Out of this package, they will utilize the shovel pass to the fullback option.

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U-89 is the shit yo. Bring that back. Keep the zone scheme obviously cuz we don't have the "big" players suited for a "true" gap scheme ala Sherman, but the short yardage under MM has been a joke. Use Preston off the bench to augment the OL at TE. Snake would love to see that....

Just something great about running your play knowing damn well the D knows it, yet they can't stop it. Gary Payton (Seattle PG NBA) used to call out the plays he was gonna run in his prime to his opponents, yet they rarely could stop him. Just something awesome about that.

Snake does that in Madden to his buddies, saying "hey I'm throwing to TO on the left with a post on this play" (yet no one stops Snake or Chuck Norris)....followed by heated words, and many more beers getting drank. Just fun stuff, yet I don't get paid like Gary Payton or even Kevin Barry. WTF!!!??

[Fritz]

Punt on first down!

To call an audible from the shotgun, have Aaron Rodgers grind his hips with his hands cupped over his crotch, calling out women's body parts to signify plays.

These are possibilities. But my favorite is to bring back the fullback. Give him more than one or two carries on third and short. Give him enough carries to that the defense at least has to account for the guy.

This might mean Green Bay needs a more athletic fullback on the team. But draft gurus from 'rats have found one - I forget his name. So draft him, and while he develops give Kuhn or Hall some carries - I don't know, four or five or six - and give them a chance to catch the ball occasionally - more than before. Show them tapes of Hondo's classic move - jumping over the would-be tackler.

That's my "tweak."

[Waldo]

Punt on first down!

To call an audible from the shotgun, have Aaron Rodgers grind his hips with his hands cupped over his crotch, calling out women's body parts to signify plays.

These are possibilities. But my favorite is to bring back the fullback. Give him more than one or two carries on third and short. Give him enough carries to that the defense at least has to account for the guy.

This might mean Green Bay needs a more athletic fullback on the team. But draft gurus from 'rats have found one - I forget his name. So draft him, and while he develops give Kuhn or Hall some carries - I don't know, four or five or six - and give them a chance to catch the ball occasionally - more than before. Show them tapes of Hondo's classic move - jumping over the would-be tackler.

That's my "tweak."

Tony Fiammetta from Syracuse

[Joemailman]

I wonder if McCarthy knows who he has in mind for Right Tackle yet.

I've read elsewhere that we just had private workouts (or are about to) with Oher, A. Smith, and Britton. Sounds a lot like our first rounder is gonna be an OT, every year the Packers tip their hand as to their first pick with their late workouts, if the guy is there. It was Cason and Otah last year (both were gone, we actually had Cason on the phone when SD picked him, if you believe some of the rumors), and Harrell 2 years ago. My guess is our RT will come in the draft.

I'm starting to think Oher might be the most likely pick at #9. All the DE/OLB's have issues, Andre Smith has the weight, Raji might be gone, Tyson Jackson might be a reach etc. If they don't draft a OT high this year, they would probably have to next year, and this is a good year for OT's.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I think it means he's bringing back Kevin Barry and the U-89 Package.

U-71. A U-89 package would have featured Robert Ferguson. Bretsky would have gone crazy over the U-89 package.