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  • LATEST DRAFT RUMBLINGS

    Been listening to ESPN and NFL Network a lot

    Everybody seems to be prediction
    1. Stafford
    2. Smith
    3. Curry

    BUT THEN

    It appears there is a strong chance the Seahawks are considing Sanchez at #4

    And NOBODY has my Crabman falling to GB at #9........as a sidenote....I think this GB has to take him if he falls there

    This latest Mock draft really has GB being able to choose from Oher and about all the defensive guys on their board. I'd think TT would have to like this choice




    The downside here is..........nobody will really want to trade to #9 if the elite talent is off the board so we'd be stuck picking between Oher, Orakpo, Raji, Maybin, and T Jackson is all likelihood

    Feel free to post any rumors/rumblings in here as the day nears
    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

  • #2
    Here is a mock draft with Crabtree going to Green Bay.



    It seems PFW agrees that if he is there at 9 he must be picked. This is assuming Maclin goes befoe him.

    As a Vikings fan, Crabtree on the Packers scares the $hit out of me. Though I don't think he will make it past the Raiders.
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    • #3
      I'd be ecstatic with Raji
      Very happy with Oher
      OK with Malcolm Jenkins (I think he's one of the safest bets to be a very good player in this draft)

      I don't know enough about how Orakpo or Maybin will transition. If it's a player like that, I guess I have no clue and I'll wait and see.

      I'm not huge on Tyson Jackson, but he's also a safe pick. I think I'd rather have Hood, who has just as much production and a higher ceiling.

      I think crabtree is overrated. I could easily be wrong, but in my opinion, I think he'd be a very bad pick because we don't need him and I don't see him as being as good as a lot of the other players that could be there (including Jenkins, Hood, Oher and Raji)
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      • #4
        It has been a few months to think about the draft.

        Don't have too much to think.

        There is a plan B and a plan C for the first pick. 2 of the three are okay to pretty good.

        No matter who the Packers pick someone will get angry and have a big tirade against Ted Thompson.

        Whether it is your hanging, your wedding day, or the NFL draft, you have to man up and accept your fate.

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        • #5
          I think if Crabtree is there TT should take him, DD is getting old, JJ is hurt a lot, and Crabtree is too good to pass up. I could see 4-5 WR's going in the first round this year. Here's an article on TT's past drafts: http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/.../90418050/1058
          Thanks Ted!

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          • #6
            If Cleveland trades Braylon Edwards, that means that the teams drafting 4-8 all lack a legitimate #1 WR. Hard to believe they would all pass on Crabtree as it would be a case of BPA also being a position of need. The 5 mocks at NFLDraftScout all have Crabtree going top 5. I doubt they're all that wrong. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock

            If he were available at #9, there might be some teams looking to trade up to get him. Failing that, I think you have to take him. His ability to make yards after the catch is exactly what the Packers look for.
            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #7
              I agree with McShay's top 8.

              That leaves Ted with a very interesting scenario, picking between Raji, Oher, and Orakpo. All three are "needs" in the sense that Clifton, Pickett, and Kampman all have one year left on their deals.

              Raji is probably the biggest need, in that the run D was arguably the biggest problem with last year's team. Oher is arguably the upside pick. If he can learn the offense, he could be a stud LT. Orakpo is arguably the safe pick. He might never be a star, but I'd be surprised if he busts out. He's got the combo of character and production that Ted seems to like.

              I've always assumed Ted would play it safe with his first pick, especially in the top ten. It will be interesting to see what he does here. Could be a career defining pick.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                  I'd be ecstatic with Raji
                  Very happy with Oher
                  OK with Malcolm Jenkins (I think he's one of the safest bets to be a very good player in this draft)

                  I don't know enough about how Orakpo or Maybin will transition. If it's a player like that, I guess I have no clue and I'll wait and see.

                  I'm not huge on Tyson Jackson, but he's also a safe pick. I think I'd rather have Hood, who has just as much production and a higher ceiling.

                  I think crabtree is overrated. I could easily be wrong, but in my opinion, I think he'd be a very bad pick because we don't need him and I don't see him as being as good as a lot of the other players that could be there (including Jenkins, Hood, Oher and Raji)
                  I would be happy with whoever they pick as long as that person turns out to be a probowl talent. To me Raji, Oher, or Jenkins are the smart picks. To me O-Sack-po seems like a huge risk. The Pack need to shore up the DL or OL so I say either Oher or Raji if available. Some of these players will drop to round 2 so lets pick one up there.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LL2
                    Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                    I'd be ecstatic with Raji
                    Very happy with Oher
                    OK with Malcolm Jenkins (I think he's one of the safest bets to be a very good player in this draft)

                    I don't know enough about how Orakpo or Maybin will transition. If it's a player like that, I guess I have no clue and I'll wait and see.

                    I'm not huge on Tyson Jackson, but he's also a safe pick. I think I'd rather have Hood, who has just as much production and a higher ceiling.

                    I think crabtree is overrated. I could easily be wrong, but in my opinion, I think he'd be a very bad pick because we don't need him and I don't see him as being as good as a lot of the other players that could be there (including Jenkins, Hood, Oher and Raji)
                    I would be happy with whoever they pick as long as that person turns out to be a probowl talent. To me Raji, Oher, or Jenkins are the smart picks. To me O-Sack-po seems like a huge risk. The Pack need to shore up the DL or OL so I say either Oher or Raji if available. Some of these players will drop to round 2 so lets pick one up there.
                    Seems like every year, except for Hawk, TTT grabs somebody with the first pick that nobody saw coming.

                    I think this is the year a lot of us get it right
                    TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                    • #11
                      I doubt we get a big surprise. It will undoubtedly be one of those guys mentioned often. The thing is, thee are at least a half dozen of those.

                      I agree, Crabtree would be tough to pass up, even for a top four OT. He probably won't fall to us, though. The 4-8 teams, like somebody said, all could use him.
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                      • #12
                        My only reservation about Crabtree if he falls (and I still don't think he will) is more about chemistry than anything else.

                        We have a bunch of talented guys who seem genuinely happy when a teammate makes a play. Is Crabtree a guy that will fit into that comeraderie? I don't know that he isn't, I'm just asking. Factor in that he's coming from a very non-pro style offense, it will likely take him a year or two to get on the field a lot since he has a lot to learn and there's a lot of talent at WR in front of him.

                        Will he be able to take it in stride if he catches only 15-20 balls this year as a #5 WR? They need to take a real careful check on his ego before they pull the trigger.
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                        • #13
                          Every year, a player or two - considered to be gone in the first few picks, slides a bit.
                          Just a hunch that Eugene Monroe might be avail. at #9 - and i realize this goes against the grain of virtually every mock draft.
                          Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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                          • #14
                            Some players do slide, but not top OT's with no character issues. Andre Smith, B.J. Raji and Michael Crabtree (Injury) are the most likely to slide. Sometimes the #2 or 3 QB will also slide (Rodgers, Quinn, Leinart).
                            I can't run no more
                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
                            Say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                            A thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • #15
                              Lately the Packers have had private workouts with 3 OT's:

                              Oher, A. Smith, and Britton

                              I believe that they have had them with Jackson and Jenkins as well. Everything I've read, plus things hinted by people in the know that are friends with TT, the Packers are extremely high on Tyson Jackson.

                              TT is a believer in breaking ties with the scale high in the draft (he's said this) so I wouldn't expect to see Jenkins as the pick, but he may be the last resort if the guys they love are gone. I think A. Smith, Oher, and Jackson are the ones they love. Though if Monroe or J. Smith fell I'm sure we'd grab them, and I could see a moderate trade up scenario if they got to #5 (trading up is cheap this year), as #6 will take the faller.

                              The Packers keep these things quiet so it is tough as heck to find info about them, they don't do them in GB, as they have to officially report those visits to other teams.

                              I don't think that they are very high on Orakpo. They had a secret workout with him on the opening day of FA (I have two sources for this, Orakpo's mouth on Sirius saying he had a private workout with the Packers (he said it long ago, mid march sometime), and the fact that an airplane known to be used by Packers brass went down to Austin and spent that Friday there). Since then it's been quiet on that front. The real late ones are the ones to watch.

                              The Packers have been all over Jamon Merideth of South Carolina, visiting him several times. However there are many strong rumors that he failed at the combine for steroids, if so I wouldn't expect to see him. Another OT we've shown a ton of interest in at both the combine and pro day was Gerald Cadogan, LT for Penn State.

                              Two 3-4 guys we've gone the extra mile with are Larry English and Everette Pedesceaux. We ran the drills at both of their pro days. We've interviewed English a few times and Pedescleaux has been in contact with the team several times.

                              We've brought in or had private workouts with darn near every 3-4 OLB prospect in the draft, including minor guys, in addition to visiting every pro day for them. I think the group of English-Barwin-Sintim we're real high on. We've avoided any officially recorded contact with any of them, aside from the English pro day thing.

                              Some positions we have been relentless in scouting this offseason, some surprising, some not.

                              QB - fair amount of work
                              RB - We've been looking hard at these guys
                              FB - We've been looking hard at these guys
                              WR - Very little effort
                              TE - We've been looking hard at these guys
                              OT - We've been looking hard at these guys, probably our #1 position of interest
                              OG - Very little effort. We took a look at a 3rd-4th round C/G guy that's a real good fit, but aside from that, not much. Keep in mind though that TT drafts OT's to play G
                              C - Very little effort. I think that Unger is the only one we've payed much attention to

                              DE - Fair amount of work, though not as much as you would think
                              NT - We've been looking hard at these guys, and have been linked to just about every one in the draft
                              OLB - Probably our #2 position of interest. We've been all over these guys.
                              ILB - Moderate effort
                              CB - Moderate effort
                              S - We've been all over these guys

                              If I had to guess, we're going to come out of this draft with a OT, OLB, RB, NT, TE, and S surely, will probably grab a DE and CB as well, and at worst will add a FB via UDFA.

                              There is a lot of dead air with the Packers and Raji as of late. We either love him or hate him, to the point where we're either sending out strong smokescreens in other directions, or there really is very little interest. I don't think that there is much interest in the first round pass rushers.

                              The analysts to really pay attention to for Green Bay:
                              Casserly - Not sure how close he is with TT, but he and Capers are surely friends
                              Kirwan - Good friends with TT
                              G. Brandt - Good friends with John Dorsey
                              Lombardi/A. Brandt - Lots of ties inside the GB organization

                              Kirwan and Brandt have a history of nailing GB's picks in the days before the draft.

                              I think that it is clear by their actions this offseason that they have given up on Wells, Moll, Rouse, Peprah, Humphrey (even though they resigned him) and Hunter.

                              And they are real close to giving up on one of Grant/Jackson, Hall/Kuhn, and Harrell/Jolly.

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