Mock Drafts

[packrulz]

Re: Jackson

Because Tyson played on a 4-3 defense, he was supposed to get sacks too.

Wait, so you're saying that a player should be discounted as a potential impact player in the 3-4, if he was mediocre in the 4-3? I don't see how that makes sense. There are quite a few defensive ends and outside linebackers in the 3-4 who would be poor in the 4-3 but do very well in their system.

Pretty much, if he was mediocre in the 4-3 would you draft him at #9 overall and hope he's good in the 3-4? I wouldn't. Look at Cory Williams, he was a good 4-3 DE and the Browns signed him for a 3-4 DE and he blew chunks. From another thread:

"Williams made his mark with Green Bay as a 4-3 tackle, but struggled badly in his first season as a 3-4 end. The new Browns regime is hoping his disappointing 2008 was simply the result of trying to play through a painful shoulder injury. Williams had 50 tackles, but only 0.5 sacks.

Source: Canton Repository "

[Lurker64]

Except that Tyson Jackson did play in the 3-4 his (redshirt) sophomore year, recording 10 TFL and 8.5 sacks from the 5-technique DE position. His junior year, LSU abandoned the 3-4 and his production dropped off dramatically.

[packrulz]

Except that Tyson Jackson did play in the 3-4 his (redshirt) sophomore year, recording 10 TFL and 8.5 sacks from the 5-technique DE position. His junior year, LSU abandoned the 3-4 and his production dropped off dramatically.

I did not know that, but I still have to wonder if his production dropped off because LSU went to a 4-3 def or because Glenn Dorsey graduated and went to the NFL. I'm not saying he's a bad player, I just think there are better options at #9.

[Lurker64]

Except that Tyson Jackson did play in the 3-4 his (redshirt) sophomore year, recording 10 TFL and 8.5 sacks from the 5-technique DE position. His junior year, LSU abandoned the 3-4 and his production dropped off dramatically.

I did not know that, but I still have to wonder if his production dropped off because LSU went to a 4-3 def or because Glenn Dorsey graduated and went to the NFL. I'm not saying he's a bad player, I just think there are better options at #9.

Glen Dorsey's last year at LSU was Tyson Jackson's junior year at LSU.

[packrulz]

That may be, but Kiper and McShay both think that Tyson will be drafted 12th by the Broncos, for whatever that is worth.

[Packnut]

#9

Except that Tyson Jackson did play in the 3-4 his (redshirt) sophomore year, recording 10 TFL and 8.5 sacks from the 5-technique DE position. His junior year, LSU abandoned the 3-4 and his production dropped off dramatically.

I did not know that, but I still have to wonder if his production dropped off because LSU went to a 4-3 def or because Glenn Dorsey graduated and went to the NFL. I'm not saying he's a bad player, I just think there are better options at #9.

Well, it depends on your definition of "better options". Are there more guys with better potential and talent? May-be. But the real question here is are there any safer picks and that answer is HELL NO!

At worst, Jackson will be an average guy, but he won't be a bust based on all the things I stated about him earlier.

After Harrell, we can't afford another bust. Teddy is out of mulligans.

[Packnut]

Jackson

That may be, but Kiper and McShay both think that Tyson will be drafted 12th by the Broncos, for whatever that is worth.

They also claim he'll be perfect in a 3-4 defense.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Re: #9

After Harrell, we can't afford another bust. Teddy is out of mulligans.

Ron Wolf proved you can have a bunch of mulligans in the first round, if you make up for it with overall good drafts.

[packrulz]

Re: #9

Except that Tyson Jackson did play in the 3-4 his (redshirt) sophomore year, recording 10 TFL and 8.5 sacks from the 5-technique DE position. His junior year, LSU abandoned the 3-4 and his production dropped off dramatically.

I did not know that, but I still have to wonder if his production dropped off because LSU went to a 4-3 def or because Glenn Dorsey graduated and went to the NFL. I'm not saying he's a bad player, I just think there are better options at #9.

Well, it depends on your definition of "better options". Are there more guys with better potential and talent? May-be. But the real question here is are there any safer picks and that answer is HELL NO!

At worst, Jackson will be an average guy, but he won't be a bust based on all the things I stated about him earlier.

After Harrell, we can't afford another bust. Teddy is out of mulligans.

I didn't know Harrell was a bust already.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Jamie Dukes isn't that good on the NFL Network, and he's an even worse at mock drafts.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story?id=09000d5d80fb153b&template=without-video-with-comments&confirm=true

He has the Packers reaching to take Everette Brown at #9, but has Jeremy Maclin dropping to the Vikings at #22. It's more likely, you'll be able to flip their draft positions and come closer to what will actually happen. I guess we'll see.