I'm on the Raji/Oher band wagon. I think a trade down would be nice too. I'd take a later 1st this year 13-20 and a 1st next year or a later first this year 13-20 and a 2nd and third next year. Something like that would work for me
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If Denver wants to trade their 1st and 2nd to move up to get a QB...say Sanchez is still sitting there...to keep him away from the 49ers I'd tell TT to do it. It will never happen.Originally posted by JustinHarrellI'm on the Raji/Oher band wagon. I think a trade down would be nice too. I'd take a later 1st this year 13-20 and a 1st next year or a later first this year 13-20 and a 2nd and third next year. Something like that would work for me
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Good Post Lurker.Originally posted by Lurker64It's draft week, and draft week is a time of wild speculation and baseless rumor.
To start it off, I thought This was interesting. It's a compilation of convictions that (scouting pioneer) Gil Brandt holds about the draft.
The highlights:
• LSU DE Tyson Jackson will go in the Top 5. Not might. Will. This qualified as the biggest shocker, to me, since almost every mock draft I looked at pegged Jackson to be a mid- to late first-rounder at best. I thought the Top 5 was pretty locked in, too. But, of course, I shouldn’t have doubted Mr. Brandt. I asked around after the show to see if I could confirm it, and sure enough one NFL source I know did tell me he’s heard the Kansas City Chiefs might take Jackson at No. 3, or trade down and take him a few picks later.
• The Seattle Seahawks, at No. 4, will likely select either Texas Tech WR Michael Crabtree or USC QB Mark Sanchez.
• Crabtree will fall somewhere between Picks 4 and 10, though given the variables it was impossible to guess exactly where.
• The Oakland Raiders will take a receiver at No. 7 (and it’s hard to imagine them passing on Crabtree if he’s available, so I suppose we can narrow down Crabtree’s placement to 4-7).
• There will be no defensive backs taken in the Top 10.
• The Saints, at No. 14, are looking for a big cornerback, and Ohio State’s Malcolm Jenkins is a good bet to be their guy.
• The New England Patriots, at No. 23 will take a linebacker.
• Oklahoma T Phil Loadholt (6-7, 332) will go in the first round of the draft. His teammate, G Duke Robinson (6-5, 330, and the top-rated guard on most boards), will not.
• Cincinnati DE Connor Barwin didn’t begin this process as a first-rounder, but he has managed to sneak himself into the bottom of the first round.
• The Buffalo Bills are targeting a DE with the 11th pick (and not Tennessee DE Robert Ayers, by the way). They are also pretty high on Oklahoma State TE Brandon Pettigrew, but aren’t likely to take him unless they trade down a few spots. (Important note: Things have obviously changed a little since then, since the Bills acquired a second first-round pick from Philadelphia in the Jason Peters trade. Now the Bills have both the 11th and 28th pick. Of course, they also have an obvious need for a tackle).
4 things stand out for Snake:
1) When "isn't" Oakland enamored and getting hosed with a WR (whether it's draft/trade/FA?)
2) No DB's in top 10. Jenkins is a B.U.S.T. I'm sorry for the team that takes him high.
3) Why does NE need another LB?
4) What's up with the TE Pettigrew? Why do peeps think he's so good to waste at top 15 pick on for a TE? Bubba, Olsen, Niner's Phenom?? Stop the waste, and ban TE's to the 3rd round for the sake of competent NFL football.
Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.
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Good Post Lurker. Nice to know that some teams other than GB will be hurt this year through the draft, though, lol.Originally posted by Lurker64It's draft week, and draft week is a time of wild speculation and baseless rumor.
To start it off, I thought This was interesting. It's a compilation of convictions that (scouting pioneer) Gil Brandt holds about the draft.
The highlights:
• LSU DE Tyson Jackson will go in the Top 5. Not might. Will. This qualified as the biggest shocker, to me, since almost every mock draft I looked at pegged Jackson to be a mid- to late first-rounder at best. I thought the Top 5 was pretty locked in, too. But, of course, I shouldn’t have doubted Mr. Brandt. I asked around after the show to see if I could confirm it, and sure enough one NFL source I know did tell me he’s heard the Kansas City Chiefs might take Jackson at No. 3, or trade down and take him a few picks later.
• The Seattle Seahawks, at No. 4, will likely select either Texas Tech WR Michael Crabtree or USC QB Mark Sanchez.
• Crabtree will fall somewhere between Picks 4 and 10, though given the variables it was impossible to guess exactly where.
• The Oakland Raiders will take a receiver at No. 7 (and it’s hard to imagine them passing on Crabtree if he’s available, so I suppose we can narrow down Crabtree’s placement to 4-7).
• There will be no defensive backs taken in the Top 10.
• The Saints, at No. 14, are looking for a big cornerback, and Ohio State’s Malcolm Jenkins is a good bet to be their guy.
• The New England Patriots, at No. 23 will take a linebacker.
• Oklahoma T Phil Loadholt (6-7, 332) will go in the first round of the draft. His teammate, G Duke Robinson (6-5, 330, and the top-rated guard on most boards), will not.
• Cincinnati DE Connor Barwin didn’t begin this process as a first-rounder, but he has managed to sneak himself into the bottom of the first round.
• The Buffalo Bills are targeting a DE with the 11th pick (and not Tennessee DE Robert Ayers, by the way). They are also pretty high on Oklahoma State TE Brandon Pettigrew, but aren’t likely to take him unless they trade down a few spots. (Important note: Things have obviously changed a little since then, since the Bills acquired a second first-round pick from Philadelphia in the Jason Peters trade. Now the Bills have both the 11th and 28th pick. Of course, they also have an obvious need for a tackle).
4 things stand out for Snake:
1) When "isn't" Oakland enamored and getting hosed with a WR (whether it's draft/trade/FA?) Al Davis is a joke.
2) No DB's in top 10! Jenkins is a clear B.U.S.T. I'm sorry for the team that takes him that high.
3) Why does NE need another LB? Oh well.
4) What's up with the TE Pettigrew? Why do peeps think he's so good to waste a top 15 pick for a TE? Bubba, Olsen, Niner's Phenom?? Stop the waste, stop the MADNESS!!! and ban TE's to the 3rd round for the sake of competent NFL football.
Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.
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Just heard this on the Madison ESPN station....rumor of a Aaron Kampman for Julius Peppers...there would be some picks involved as well, but I
when I heard it.
"I would love to have a guy that always gets the key hit, a pitcher that always makes his best pitch and a manager that can always make the right decision. The problem is getting him to put down his beer and come out of the stands and do those things." - Danny Murraugh
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Is this the Chmura rumor that people have posted on JSO? I don't buy it. It sounded more like complete speculation by Chmura... who I don't think has many connections in the Packers organization anymore.Originally posted by ND72Just heard this on the Madison ESPN station....rumor of a Aaron Kampman for Julius Peppers...there would be some picks involved as well, but I
when I heard it."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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Clayton was on Mike and Mike yesterday morning saying he had heard absolutely nothing about Peppers going anywhere, and Peppers should get used to the idea of being franchised and get on with his life.
Doesn't mean it couldn't happen, but Clayton seems to be tuned in better than most.#14
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DP[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
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He also has very few remaining connections to Catholic Girls's Schools.Originally posted by HarveyWallbangersIs this the Chmura rumor that people have posted on JSO? I don't buy it. It sounded more like complete speculation by Chmura... who I don't think has many connections in the Packers organization anymore.Originally posted by ND72Just heard this on the Madison ESPN station....rumor of a Aaron Kampman for Julius Peppers...there would be some picks involved as well, but I
when I heard it.[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
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Yahoo! Get it done TT. Realize its the Pro Bowl but Peppers was dropping back into pass coverage and looked impressive.Originally posted by ND72Just heard this on the Madison ESPN station....rumor of a Aaron Kampman for Julius Peppers...there would be some picks involved as well, but I
when I heard it.
Wants to play olb and is a much better fit than Kampman.
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Kampman for Peppers doesn't make sense, does it?
This rumor makes me wonder what the process is for getting really stupid rumors started.
In fact, we at Packerrats should attempt to earn our own fifteen minutes of fame by starting a juicy draft rumor. We could then post it on other blogs, then cite those other blogs as solid sources, and then we could watch to see if see if the rumor begins to pop up in national media.
What are some possibilities?
Kampman and picks for Peppers before the draft? Oh yeah, that one is taken.[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
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Not a rumor but a prediction I wanted to get in front of the draft hordes
Mike Mayock was on Dan Patrick today and said the best defensive player available is Robert Ayers of Tennessee. He said a creative D coordinator will get this guy to the Pro Bowl inside three seasons. Ayers waited until he was a senior to break out into nearly a complete package apparently, and so he doesn't look like a top ten pick for this draft.
I bring this up only because I remember Mayock loved Matt Ryan and predicted Jared Mayo would be a stud right away. Of course, these guys can have hits and misses every year and we will remember only what we want, but thought it was notable as he might be of interest (and available) to the Packers and their hopefully creative D coordinator.
Anybody up for a Predict The First Round Contest this year?Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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