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  • Final Mock Offseason

    My guys, my dream draft. Most will hate it. But, If I had my way, this is how it would go. Values based off Brandt, Gosselin, Mayock, and NFLDS.

    Note - Keep in mind, TT in 2005 did absolutely nothing about our greatest "needs" until the 7th round.

    Free Agency:

    Additions:
    Anthony Smith, FS/SS, 6'1", 200lb

    TT's first FA signing, he brings experience in the scheme and is a player the coaches know.

    Michael Montgomery, DE, 6'5", 275lb

    After Carter visited the Packers attention has turned to Montgomery, who has the right sized frame, though is a little slow and undersized for the DE position.

    Duke Preston, C/G/T, 6'5", 326lb

    Versatile player brought in as a guy to compete at C, G, and RT, and at worst be a valuable player on the bench. He's very large compared to the rest of our lineman, yet has the agility to succeed in our blocking scheme if the coaches can get him to play up to his ability.

    Tory Humphrey, TE/H-Back, 6'2", 255lb

    Tory is brought back at a lower rate than the RFA tag after a few weeks of being a FA. He's definitely not guaranteed a roster spot in the fall, but bringing him back allows for less of a sense of urgency to add a 3rd TE in the draft.

    Vonnie Holiday, DE, 6'5", 285lb

    Vonnie still has some high end gas left in the tank. He signs for two years at an affordable rate after the draft. TT brings him back home to GB.

    Subtractions:
    Mark Tausher, RT
    Mark is signed elsewhere prior to TT making an effort to retain him.

    Colin Cole, DT
    Cole signed with the Seahawks after rejecting the small offer from the Packers.

    Projected 2010 compensatory picks: None

    Draft:
    Detroit Lions - Matthew Stafford - I think Matt signs here. They are darn close to a deal.

    St. Louis - Jason Smith - The Rams are feinting interest in Sanchez. Hooey, they want a OT. It's between J. Smith and Monroe, I think that Smith will take the better deal having been through this, I think that KC want's Monroe more and he wants KC more.

    Kansas City - Eugene Monroe - I think they trade down unless Monroe is on the board, or take Jackson if they can't. I think that Eugene is their true target, Pioli has been all about the good ol boy's club this offseason, and part of the club, Groh, coached Eugene.

    Seattle - Michael Crabtree - Crabs has too much diva for having done nothing in the NFL. Kid's a bust waiting to happen, Seattle doesn't care, his tape is great.

    Cleveland - Tyson Jackson - Linebacker vs. Lineman at #5 money. No contest. They could use an elite 5 tech.

    *trade* Cincinnati trades #6 to Washington for #13 and Carlos Rodgers.

    Washington - Mark Sanchez - It's pretty clear, the damage is done, Campbell is PO'ed, this isn't going to work in '09, Dan needs a new QB. Dan starts making this offer at #3, Cincy is the first team that bites. There is no way to mend the fences with Jason, however they immediately put him up for sale and come grab Mark.

    Oakland - Andre Smith - Two things are well known with Al Davis. He loves speed. And he knows a good football player when he sees one. He puts on the tape of Andre, and sees one.

    *trade* the Jacksonville Jaguars trade #8 to the Houston Texans for #15 and #77

    Houston - Aaron Curry - Houston trades up to nab the best LB in the draft.

    *trade* the Green Bay Packers trade #9 to the Denver Broncos for #12 and #114

    Denver Broncos - BJ Raji - Denver calls with a pitiful offer; hey maybe they don't want that NT all that much. TT bites. We don't.

    San Francisco 49ers - Jeremy Maclin - The 49ers have needs here and there, but they could really use a young stud to pair with Josh Morgan to make up their WR corps of the future.

    Buffalo Bills - Brian Orakpo - Bills fans are floored, amazed, excited, and thrilled that 'Rak falls to them, and Buffalo management bites.

    #12 - Knowshon Moreno, RB, 5'11", 217lb

    Knowshon literally is the perfect running back prospect, minus his long speed. Blocking, catching, character, leadership, competitiveness, slipping every tackle, and downright nose for the endzone. TT can see it, sense it, his "it" will transfer to the pro level, Knowshon, along with Rodgers, Colledge, Jennings, and Finley, completes the QB, LT, RB, WR, TE formula for dominance, this young core is ready to shred the NFL for a decade. Knowshon is the "over the hump" player that completes it. MM drools over a back that is such a factor in the running and passing game. This years first sucks. Knowshon is a very safe pick. The kid is too much of a natural to not be good.

    *trade* Green Bay trades #41 to New York for #45 and #151.

    #45 - Louis Delmas, FS/SS, 6'0", 202lb

    With Hood, English, Barwin, and Unger off the board, TT trades down a hair to a team looking for a WR, and picks up the best S in this class. Louis oozes confidence and leadership, side by side with the rest of the safety class, Louis looks to be on a different level on the field. Even though he comes from a small school.

    *trade* - TT trades #73 to Tampa for #81, #155, and #229

    #81 - TJ Lang, OG, 6'4", 316lb

    With Gerald Cadogan off the board, TT trades down and takes his highest rated lineman available. Lang screams TT lineman. He's a 4 position lineman, so will allow Colledge or Sitton to move to RT if Barbre, Moll, or Breno don't step up, if Lang doesn't win the RT spot outright.

    #83 - Jason Williams, OLB, 6'1", 241lb

    I'm a big fan of his, he's pretty much a poor man's Clay Matthews. The scheme he played in makes his experience very similar to a 3-4 OLB. Outstanding athleticism, he started as a S and moved to LB. Can cover better than the average 3-4 OLB prospect. Time in gymnastics has made him a very flexible player with good body control and bend. TT wants to trade this pick down, but feels that Jason is a steal here, he thought real hard about him where he took Lang.

    #109 - Everette Pedescleaux, DE, 6'6", 305lb

    Everette had character issues long in the past, but he learned from his mistakes and TT gives him a chance. Superior frame and athleticism, Jarron Gilbert has nothing on Everette. Everette has the physical ability to dominate at the next level.

    #114 - Tony Fiammetta, 6'0", 245lb

    With Morrah and Veikune off the board here, TT goes with Tony. Tony is the perfect WCO FB, hands, blocking ability, and fast. MM has lots of uses for a guy like Tony. One of Hall or Kuhn will need a new job. TT makes a serious commitment to running the ball this offseason.

    #145 - Sammie Lee Hill, NT, 6'4", 329

    I'm projecting Sammie to fall a bit here. Problem with him is, he might need a year on the PS, that can't happen until at least the 5th round. Teams are hesitant to take him before then. He's got the size and athleticism, but is very raw.

    #151 - Joel Bell, OT, 6'7", 315

    Joel is this year's entry in the TT 4th-5th round athletic, high upside small school lineman group. He too screams TT lineman prospect all around, Joel was meant to be a Packer.

    #155 - Henry Melton, OLB, 6'4", 269lb

    Melton isn't quite as well known as his more famous teammate, but is almost every bit as athletic. A recent covert to the defensive side of the ball, he started his career as a RB.

    #182 - Eron Riley, WR, 6'3", 206lb

    Heyward-Bey is a first rounder for being 6'0"+ and running a 4.3. Eron is 6'3" and runs a 4.29. Plus he was darn good and productive in school, Moreso than Darrius. Sucks for him that he went to Duke. At least TT got a chance to see him when he took a look at Paulus.

    #187 - Pannel Egboh, DE, 6'6", 276lb

    Needs to gain about 10 pounds, but great frame and good speed and athleticism. Possibly underrated by being a better 3-4 fit than 4-3 fit, plus he has 3-4 experience from earlier in his career when Stanford ran a 3-4.

    #218 - Antonio Dixon, NT, 6'3", 324lb

    Battled a number of injuries through his career. An underrated prospect that would most likely be considered considerably higher if he stayed healthy. Will push for the #2 spot or a PS spot.

    #229 - Jason McCourty, 5'10", 193lb

    Kids a little short, but he has hops and can fly (4.30), his cone is sick (6.67). The tools are there. TT visited with him, has interest, and takes a flier on him.

  • #2
    Interesting. I like landing Fiametta, Hill, Pedescleaux, and Egboh. Bell is a guy that I thought TT would pick in the late rounds for about 3 months now.

    With Delmas and Moreno as the first day picks though, Packerfandom is going to errupt with anti-TT sentiment, but I think I'd be okay with it. Knowshon would win more than a few converts. He has as good a shot as being a special player as any of the eleven guys picked ahead of him, and he's likely a safer pick.

    Which OLB and DL prospects do you see us passing on for Delmas and Lang, do you think there's anybody worth considering at either of those picks.

    Also, you didn't list a position for Jason McCourty, presumably he'd be a CB?

    To be honest though, I kind of liked your earlier mock offseason more, from a visceral level, since we landed both a starting CB and a DE in the first, but with the recent rise of Jackson he may well not be there at 9. Do you think there's a good chance we'll sign Vonnie? The last I heard was that things were sort of cold on that front.
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    • #3
      Things are going to be cool with Vonnie or Kevin until after the draft.

      Yeah McCourty is a CB

      Delmas....Sintim and C. Brown, Gilbert, Moala, Brace, and Magee. I think that he's better than all of them. He has that special leadership/on fild DC quality that great S's have. Like Butler had.

      Lang....Veikune, Scott, Pryor on the board. Someone has to play RT. Lang makes it possible for Colledge or Sitton to join the fight with Barbre, Moll, and Breno.

      The drat kinda sucks for OLB prospects after the 2nd, but it is pretty strong beforehand. Williams is actually more of a 3-4 OLB prospect than anything. That is how he played in school.

      Bell is so TT it isn't even funny. Lang is too though. Lang is like a poor man's Unger. Bell has serious LT potential. LT feet, LT size, LT arms.

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      • #4
        Waldo -- Do we feel this way about Moreno because we happen to live in Georgia?? is this kid really the real deal? He just seems special ... and honestly, I feel a key factor in Stafford being able to gain a national spotlight. I hate UGA and am not all over the Stafford bandwagon obviously but Moreno made the whole offense exciting to watch.

        There would be a fucking uproar if TT traded down and took Moreno but it'd almost make for a lot more to look forward to. Even his ability to take what should be a yard loss and make it a two yard gain is something I noticed a lot of ... he's just hard to bring down. Again, a football player.

        I enjoyed this final mock... but where is my dude Simmons?

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        • #5
          Man....if Teddy T picks up a RB at #12 or #9, Snake swears his Youtube video will be better than this, and I do plan on using a HD vid recorder to sit around with his buds and tape the first pick...just in case it gets this bad:



          Classic highlights at 1:22, 1:57, and 2:14.

          Let's hope it doesn't get that bad, but seriously, a RB? Somehow Snake sees it though with the first pick under Ted (BPA baby) Thompson, but goddamn it!!...My 50" Plasma will get a mad dose of urine and Snake will probably kick his neighbor's dog out back if that goes down. Just thought about it....Yep, done deal, that dog gets kicked then. Just sayin...Damn. I'm getting stressed just thinking about it.
          Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.

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          • #6
            I would like this draft, I think Knowshon Moreno will be a pro bowler.
            Thanks Ted!

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            • #7
              I'd be ok with that draft
              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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              • #8
                I agree and think TT is going to find a way to take an RB in the first round. I think, he thinks, he can get the defensive bodies in later rounds.
                Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                • #9
                  If a RB is elite he'll help this team as much as anything. I'd be ok with Moreno if TT trades down a bit.
                  TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Bretsky
                    If a RB is elite he'll help this team as much as anything. I'd be ok with Moreno if TT trades down a bit.
                    Actually, I think the opposite. If a defensive guy is "elite" you spend the first round dough on him. You have to always assume, hope and pray your first round pick is elite. Defensive guys really have to stand out IMO. I think TT has a few defensive guys in mind, if theyre not there, I think he goes RB.
                    Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                    • #11
                      No one will know until Sunday night how many if any names Waldo gets right, but the idea of this mock - that it will be full of names hardly anyone has discussed, but make perfect sense in retrospect - is spot one.

                      I'd be okay with Moreno. If he's as special as I'm hearing from different sources, lacking the top-end speed means 20 yard runs instead of touchdowns but also means that he'll consistently get the extra two or three yards.

                      I kinda try to be open to whatever TT picks. I think the draft is his forte, despite the shots Greg Bedard keeps taking in his little "Daily Briefings," and so I think TT probably knows more than I do about who'll be good and who won't.
                      "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                      KYPack

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                      • #12
                        Each year I think (hope) that we have a little better idea of what TT is looking for, I think that the OL is one place that he's starting to get more predictable.

                        TT lineman have a few particular qualities:

                        Athletic - they are fast and agile compared to the pack relatively, TT likes lineman that can move.

                        Feet - TT likes lineman with the footwork to be elite pass blockers. Many big TE's move to tackle because they have athlete feet, not fat guy feet. TT grabs college tackles with good feet to play them all over his line.

                        Size - a TT lineman is not a skinny 295 lb guy, the bigger the better, as long as they have the feet and athleticism.

                        Demeanor - A TT lineman plays mean as hell on the field. He doesn't like the nice guys like Clifton, he likes the guys that'll lay into defenders a la Tausher. Colledge plays a little mean, and he's the nicest guy (on the field) TT has taken at OL since MM has been coach.

                        Lang and Bell both have all of these qualities. Both were LT's at the college level, both are outstanding athletes, both are pretty big, being 310+, both are noted for playing mean and angry on the field.

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                        • #13
                          I could see Eric Wood too.
                          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                            I could see Eric Wood too.
                            He's close, but he doesn't really have T feet. He's more of a mauler that'll be OK at pass blocking than a elite pass blocker that does OK run blocking.

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                            • #15
                              He's a guard that would move DC to tackle. I like him.
                              Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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