The official 2009 DRAFT thread

[Badgerinmaine]

Fuck - I don't want to be a downer - but Raji doesn't get me excited, may not win games or bring fans.

Why TT, BPA or Trade?

Raji is average at best.

It's Green Bay, they show up for a fucking scrimmage. I wouldn't worry about filling the stands.

I don't know Raji at all, but if looks mattered, he just seems lackadasical to me.

Yeah, meant more fans for GB in general (tv, outside GB, jerseys, etc.) - not filling seats.

I think you're right. I would ask how much more Crabtree would bring in compared to Jennings, Driver, etc. But it's a valid point...with that said...in my best JEff Garcia voice...

Crabs is going to Frisco!!!!! Whooop!!!! Whoooop!!!!

What will win you more fans than anything is winning more games. Picking someone because of the jerseys he'll sell isn't the right approach.

[Joemailman]

Okay, folks, where do you think the Pack will go next?

Should be some OT's and OLB's worthy of a 2nd round pick. Connor Barwin? Phil Loadholt?

[Packgator]

Finding receivers is easy. Finding good 3-4 NTs is hard. Hopefully, Raji ends up being a good one.

Plus we are pretty damn good at WR already.

[MateoInMex]

What grade did Mel Kiper give TT?

[Packnut]

Drink

Ok, anyone drinking with me raise your glass and toast Teddy!

One big group toast at exactly 4:30 pm CST

[Bretsky]

Re: JH

Dam; NFL Network just posted Justine Harrell as our starter

Has he even played for GB yet ?????

Justin Who?????????

that dude TTT picked in round one a couple years ago

I've blocked that pick from my memory- to painful

Here is a toast to hoping our first round DL this year has better luck than our last 1st round DL up to this point

[Gunakor]

Crabtree at 10 is by far the best pick in the draft so far...

How can you be excited about Raji as a 5 snap a game player?!? Starting NT only plays 20ish snaps a game according to Waldo. Awful pick imo.

right, just because he's a monkey wearing glasses doesn't mean he is setting our depth chart

So you have Pickett, a very solid player, as a 5 snap a game player? I don't understand this logic at all.

This guy doesn't fit. We don't have a huge need at NT. We had a glaring need at DE. We've made a rich position richer, but passed on a rare talent in Crabtree.

Again, Pickett is gone next year. Buh bye. Then what?

[MateoInMex]

Fuck - I don't want to be a downer - but Raji doesn't get me excited, may not win games or bring fans.

Why TT, BPA or Trade?

Raji is average at best.

It's Green Bay, they show up for a fucking scrimmage. I wouldn't worry about filling the stands.

I don't know Raji at all, but if looks mattered, he just seems lackadasical to me.

Yeah, meant more fans for GB in general (tv, outside GB, jerseys, etc.) - not filling seats.

I think you're right. I would ask how much more Crabtree would bring in compared to Jennings, Driver, etc. But it's a valid point...with that said...in my best JEff Garcia voice...

Crabs is going to Frisco!!!!! Whooop!!!! Whoooop!!!!

What will win you more fans than anything is winning more games. Picking someone because of the jerseys he'll sell isn't the right approach.

+1

[red]

Okay, folks, where do you think the Pack will go next?

so tough to tell right now, it'll be a lot more clear in about 20 picks

[Partial]

Lurker and Waldo have insisted that 6'2" is too short to play 3-4 DE. I don't think this guy moves nearly well enough to line up outside either. I'm really not feeling this. I'm all for fortifying the defense, but I don't get this pick.

I think Crabtree (BPA), Jenkins, or Orakpo would have been better picks as they are either the BPA or filling a gaping need.

Gunk... Why is Pickett suddenly gone? He's just entering his prime for a 3-4 NT. It takes those guys a while to get up to strength. He's what, 30? He's got 4-5 years left of excellent production as an NT. I agree he is gone now... But that is drafting a player to replace an already good player instead of actually improving the roster.

[cpk1994]

Crabtree at 10 is by far the best pick in the draft so far...

How can you be excited about Raji as a 5 snap a game player?!? Starting NT only plays 20ish snaps a game according to Waldo. Awful pick imo.

right, just because he's a monkey wearing glasses doesn't mean he is setting our depth chart

So you have Pickett, a very solid player, as a 5 snap a game player? I don't understand this logic at all.

This guy doesn't fit. We don't have a huge need at NT. We had a glaring need at DE. We've made a rich position richer, but passed on a rare talent in Crabtree.

Raji can play DE. Or is your man crush on Crabtree blind you?

[rbaloha1]

Okay, folks, where do you think the Pack will go next?

Should be some OT's and OLB's worthy of a 2nd round pick. Connor Barwin? Phil Loadholt?

BARWIN IS THE PICK. NOW WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A PHYSICAL DEFENSE.

[Rastak]

Bills take Aaron Maybin........pass rush just got better.....



Overall Football Traits

Production 2 A third-year sophomore who declared with two years of eligibility remaining. He redshirted in 2006 and played as a backup and on special teams in 2007, when he notched 12 total tackles, including four sacks. Had a breakout season in 2008, when he started all 13 games and recorded 49 tackles, including 19 TFL. He also led the Big Ten with 12 sacks.

Height-Weight-Speed 3 Adequate height for a DE. Has added bulk and appears capable of adding 10-15 more pounds to his frame. Likely to settle in as a rush-LB in the NFL. Is in great physical condition (just four-percent body fat) and displays excellent straight-line speed.

Durability 1 Played in all 25 games during his two seasons of eligibility at PSU. Appears to be a flexible, healthy and durable athlete.

Character 1 Very mature for his young age. Had to grow up in a hurry after mother died from birth complications when Aaron was six years old. He is a natural leader both vocally and by example. Non-stop motor is infectious. Great football character. Not aware of any off-the-field issues.

Defensive End specific Traits

Agility/Quickness 1 Exceptionally quick, even for his type of hybrid DE/OLB. Shows excellent agility and closing burst to the quarterback. Possesses top-shelf body control, as well

Strength/Toughness 3 He is lean and must add bulk to frame. Is light in the rear and shows marginal ability to stack at the line of scrimmage when teams run at him. However, don't mistake small for weak or soft in his case. He is aggressive and feisty. He displays good initial pop and adequate upper-body power. And he certainly does not back down from a one-on-one physical battle.

Instincts 2 A natural playmaker with a knack for jarring the ball loose. Very good snap anticipation and awareness as a pass rusher. Should only continue to improve in this area with more experience.

Pass Rusher 2 Quickest first step of all the edge rushers in the 2009 class. Fluid double moves. Bends the edge tightly. Shows quick hands and strong enough upper body to keep bigger blockers off his pads. Still developing his array of pass rush moves. Gets caught too frequently trying to spin out of double-team attention and needs work in that regard.

Run Stopper 3 Spent a lot of time last season working head-up on the TE as PSU's strong-side DE. Shows discipline with backside containment. Stays low and fights to keep his positioning. Can stack versus most TE's but gets washed out too easily by bigger OT's when they get into his pads.

[Sparkey]

Crabtree at 10 is by far the best pick in the draft so far...

How can you be excited about Raji as a 5 snap a game player?!? Starting NT only plays 20ish snaps a game according to Waldo. Awful pick imo.

right, just because he's a monkey wearing glasses doesn't mean he is setting our depth chart

So you have Pickett, a very solid player, as a 5 snap a game player? I don't understand this logic at all.

This guy doesn't fit. We don't have a huge need at NT. We had a glaring need at DE. We've made a rich position richer, but passed on a rare talent in Crabtree.

Pickett has been having issues with his knees. Having RAJI spell Pickett makes Pickett a better player as well. Plus passing situation they can play side by side at DT.

It is a great pick! Is it flashy? No Will it make what is a poor packer run D better. hell Yeah!

[gbpackfan]

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