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  • Tampa Bay is in love with FREEMAN. Denver was probably going to take him.

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    • Originally posted by Rastak
      Trade! Browns trade again!
      The Browns are apparently doing their TT impression.

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      • Originally posted by Waldo
        Big fan of English, behind Moreno he was my 2nd favorite player in the draft.

        Good pick

        Lamarr Woodley 2.

        Kid is tough as nails. x1000.
        Yup, knew he wouldn't last long even though most people had him in the second. Dude is going to be fucking crazy good in SD.

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        • QB

          Originally posted by gbpackfan
          Tampa Bay is in love with FREEMAN. Denver was probably going to take him.
          He's the best QB in the draft

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          • Bucs coughed up a 5 or 6 I guess to move two spots.....

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            • freeman on the phone.... probably just changing his cell plan.

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              • Originally posted by jmbarnes101
                I wanted one of the following players: Tyson Jackson, Jason Smith, Eugene Monroe, Aaron Curry, or B.J. Raji.
                I'm with you, but I would have also been okay with trading back and getting Malcolm Jenkins also.
                "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                • Re: QB

                  Originally posted by Packnut
                  Originally posted by gbpackfan
                  Tampa Bay is in love with FREEMAN. Denver was probably going to take him.
                  He's the best QB in the draft
                  Not in my opinion. But what the hell do I know!

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                  • Bucs take Freeman!



                    Overall Football Traits

                    Production 2 Freeman appeared in 11 of 13 games as a true freshman in 2006, including starts in the final eight games. He started all 12 games as a sophomore in 2007, completing 63.3-percent of his throws for 3,353 yards with 18 TDs and 11 INTs. He started all 12 games again as a junior in 2008, completing 58.6-percent of his throws for 2,945 yards with 20 TDs and 8 INTs.
                    Height-Weight-Speed 1 Top of the line physical tools. Is tall, well-built and also moves well for his size.

                    Durability 1 Remarkably durable. Big and flexible athlete. Started the final 32 consecutive games at KSU.

                    Character 3 No off-the-field issues. Showed a lot of character carrying his team and battling through some tough seasons at KSU. But scouts will work long and hard trying to uncover his true leadership skill and mental capacity prior to draft weekend, as there are questions regarding both.

                    Quarterback specific Traits

                    Game Management 3 Inconsistent. Struggled in bigger games versus faster defenses. Makes bad reads on occasion and throws into double coverage too often, especially when pass rush is closing in on him. Will occasionally take too long to recognize coverage and find open receiver. Another year of mental development and refining would have benefited him. However, he's a three-year starter with excellent game experience for only a junior. He had to consistently try to overcome a marginal supporting cast and was forced to take some chances in order to make plays at times.

                    Accuracy 2 Stands tall in the pocket and can see the entire field. Plays in pro-style offense and is accustomed to taking snaps under center and making reads while dropping. Is very accurate when he makes the right decision on where to go with the ball. Can be erratic with his decisions at times. Will try to force too many throws. Tends to stare down his primary target until he has decided whether he's open or not. Needs to look off the safeties more often. Touch as an underneath passer needs improving, as well.

                    Release 3 A bit of a three-quarter delivery, but not a factor because of his excellent height. He sets the ball high, will pat it before delivering on occasion, and then dips the ball down before bringing it forward. His velocity makes up for it most of the time but he definitely gives DB's a slight tip.

                    Arm Strength 1 Excellent arm strength. Can fit the ball into tight spaces and shows good touch on the deep ball. Can drill the ball 40 yards on a rope without a problem (see: first TD pass versus Texas Tech in 2008).

                    Mobility 2 Shows quick feet in set. Very agile for his size. Good athlete. A threat to tuck the ball and run. Good vision as a runner. Will make a sharp cut and find daylight. Size and strength make him very effective on QB sneaks. Needs to protect the ball better when he takes off running.

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                    • gruden loves the pick for tb.
                      The measure of who we are is what we do with what we have.
                      Vince Lombardi

                      "Not really interested in being a spoiler or an underdog. We're the Green Bay Packers." McCarthy.

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                      • Denver is next. They already went RB. Next will be? Everette Brown???

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                        • Originally posted by Partial
                          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                          Originally posted by Partial
                          So you have Pickett, a very solid player, as a 5 snap a game player? I don't understand this logic at all.
                          Well, Pickett isn't a guy that plays close to 100% of the snaps. I imagine the two will split the snaps when we play 3-4 most of the time, but both will be on the field in situations where we play 4-3. Capers likes to mix and match, so we will play 4-3 at times. Thus, I think both guys will get 30+ snaps/game.

                          A good 3-4 defense needs a Haloti Ngata, Vince Wilfork, or Jamal Williams. Hopefully, we have that guy now.
                          That's true, I didn't think about the 4-3 possibility. You've got to love our interior for a 4-3 now
                          You will see a 4-3 look for obvious passing downs (a sub package as M3 calls it). In that lineup you will have three D lineman and an OLB or 4 d lineman rushing the passer. Raji can play in that set without dislodging Pickett. He can also spell him at NT during 1st and 2nd down. There is room for him immediately.
                          Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                          • Originally posted by Fosco33
                            gruden loves the pick for tb.
                            does he play this year?

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                            • Best QBs are off the board....a bit of a dropoff now.



                              Broncos need defense.......bad......

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                              • Originally posted by gbpackfan
                                Denver is next. They already went RB. Next will be? Everette Brown???

                                Could be, they HAVE to go defense......

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