The official 2009 DRAFT thread

[Bretsky]

well this was going to be a monster thread with all these picks coming in

Looks like we can now go on a draft vacation as we're done today I think

[Gunakor]

From packers.com

The Packers sent picks 41, 73, 83 to New England for picks 26 and 162.

26 = 700
162 = 27

41 = 490
73 = 225
83 = 175

727 for 890

Basically, Ted tossed in the Jets/Favre trade in for free.

Truly end of Favre era - gave him away for nothing!

Some are saying we got Kevin Greene II. That's more than nothing, isn't it?

[Joemailman]

What's going on? First Wist likes our 1st round pick, and then TT trades up, and people think he's crazy.

Ultimately what will determine their success is whether you were home in time. How did work go today?

Jax was on the clock when I got home.

[red]

oh good, our new LB hates blacks too, that should endear him to some of his new teamates

from draft ace

Could be a one-year-wonder; he didn't look like much of a prospect until his senior year. Doesn't excel in any one area, but doesn't have a major weakness either. Some potential character concerns; created an anti-black facebook group titled "White Nation" which he, Brian Cushing and other USC football players joined

[GFforPack]

God damnit. Would have been nice to get a 3rd back.

Matthews looks very fast off the right edge. I love how those USC LB's actually play they Spartans. They hit so F'in hard. I really like the player. Not sure how I feel about giving up that much more him, but I'm sure TT definitely thought this one through. I trust him.

Ditto! I do not think there is any way that Ted traded that many picks away without seriously thinking it through and without having been very impressed by Matthews. So far I like the way this draft is shaping up. Now all we need is a DE and an OT or two.

Go Pack!

[channtheman]

whoa

my god we gave up the farm for him

2nd and both 3's

i really hate the pick now

Raji, was a good pick. But what you guys gave up for a LB that may have only been above average because of the guys surrounding him should keep all you guys that was criticizing the Bears for giving up picks for a franchise QB. N.E. just raped you guys!!

Agreed. 100%. My only thought is that Ted does not like the middle of the draft and figured he could trade those picks where less value could be found for a guy he really liked.

Exactly, trade away the picks if you don't think there is really good value there and get a guy you really like.

[gbpackfan]

I didn't do a lot of research on Clay before the draft but after consulting my 5 scouting guides, he seems like a solid pick. Low 1st round pick by most scouts views. But we did give up a lot.

[wist43]

What's going on? First Wist likes our 1st round pick, and then TT trades up, and people think he's crazy.

[Bretsky]

TT now has a 4, 2 5's and 2 6's. He'll get back into the 2nd or 3rd round.

Good call if it happens

Could we trade our 4, 2 5's, and a 6 for a mid second round pick to get a starting OT ?

Honestly I'm a bit disappointed we won't have any more news today

[Rastak]

well this was going to be a monster thread with all these picks coming in

Looks like we can now go on a draft vacation as we're done today I think

Bretsky, it's the NFL draft! You're bailing out without the first round ending?

[Packnut]

well this was going to be a monster thread with all these picks coming in

Looks like we can now go on a draft vacation as we're done today I think

Yep, time for me to switch the tomato juice with orange juice, increase the vodka and spend the rest of the night toasting my newest and bestest buddy:

Ted Thompson (My Pal)

[Gunakor]

Good Pick for AZ.

[channtheman]

I like this pick for the Cardinals!

[mission]

well this was going to be a monster thread with all these picks coming in

Looks like we can now go on a draft vacation as we're done today I think

Yep, time for me to switch the tomato juice with orange juice, increase the vodka and spend the rest of the night toasting my newest and bestest buddy:

Ted Thompson (My Pal)

Who hacked your account?

[gbpackfan]

oh good, our new LB hates blacks too, that should endear him to some of his new teamates

from draft ace

Could be a one-year-wonder; he didn't look like much of a prospect until his senior year. Doesn't excel in any one area, but doesn't have a major weakness either. Some potential character concerns; created an anti-black facebook group titled "White Nation" which he, Brian Cushing and other USC football players joined

He doesn't hate blacks. If you did some research about that you would know better. Stop spreading such garbage.

Even his black teammates said it wasn't true.

PC Police at it again, hopefully this doesnt hurt their draft stock. Fans are really believing these guys are racist which is bs, they are in no way racist.

http://www.dailytrojan.com/news/face...-lands-usc-foo tball-player-in-hot-water-1.206854

"Trojan football players create and join 'racist' Facebook group as a 'joke.'?"

"The racist Facebook group was created by a USC football player and showed a graphic of a black baby in handcuffs. An athletic department source said the group was a joke and had no serious purpose.

Junior linebacker Clay Matthews created the group, "White Nation," which featured a graphic with the caption, "arrest black babies before they become criminals."

Teammates David Buehler, Brian Cushing, Dan Deckas and Dallas Sartz joined the group.


An athletic department source who wished to remain anonymous said the group was a joke and had no serious purpose.

The "joke" began when a black football player nicknamed some of his teammates "White Nation," the source said.

Stefanie Gopaul, a freshman majoring in psychology, discovered the group through her Facebook friendship with Sartz and Cushing and sent private messages to both, expressing her concern.

"Dallas Sartz said that White Nation is a joke on the team and that he's not like that," Gopaul said. "I was still really upset about it."

Gopaul created the Facebook group, " Clay Matthews (USC football player) expresses anti-black sentiment," and invited all of her Facebook friends to join.

"I honestly thought (Sartz and Cushing) were taking me as a joke," Gopaul said. "I posted the group so that they would know that (the White Nation group) is inappropriate."

The group received a strong response, at one time having as many as 90 members, and students expressed their outrage on the group message board and in personal messages to Gopaul.

Football player Sedrick Ellis sent Gopaul a message explaining that "White Nation" is an inside joke on the team and that Matthews is not racist.


Gopaul said she then received a message from Matthews.

"At first, Clay Matthews sounded a bit upset with me, and understandably so," Gopaul said. "But he was very nice in his second letter once I explained my intentions and actions to him."

Matthews said that another person posted the picture, and he was unsure of how to delete the group, Gopaul said.

He also wrote a formal apology to the members of "Clay Matthews (USC football player) expresses anti-black sentiment."



A source from the athletic department said Matthew's apology said he was sorry, and that the group was not serious and had no racist intent. He also said his roommate and best friend are black and said that it was poor judgment on his part to create the group.


"I really do believe that it was a joke," Gopaul said. "Racial tension is already here at 'SC, and a lot of people were upset that he wasn't punished. I was never out to punish him, but a lot of students who saw the group wanted that."

Dinah Manning, a former member of the "Clay Matthews" group and a junior majoring in philosophy, said football players should be mindful of their status as public figures.

"The football players are ambassadors of our university," Manning said. "It is offensive that they could blindly espouse hateful language and demeaning images. If it was meant to be a joke, it was careless and in bad taste."

When Matthews left the "White Nation" Facebook group, he gave up his ability to delete the group; an administrator must manually remove each member to delete the group.


The membership includes three Occidental students and five other members from regional or high school networks nationwide. No USC students remain in the group."


So the blacks on the team single out the few White guys on the team and name them White Nation and then they,in good spirit go along with the joke making a facebook page instead of causing problems, and then THEY get called the racists?, if this happened the other way around, White guys singling out black players and made a nickname for them you know a big fuss would have been caused.

It says Sedrick Ellis, who is a black player btw commented and said the players were not racist at all, it was an inside joke.