The official 2009 DRAFT thread

[Rastak]

When you are creating the foundation, multiple picks is the way to go.
When you believe you are solid, it's time to get the players you feel are special fits for your team.
It's funny how some folks who have whined the 'turtle' nonsense for so long, and lambasted Thompson for not moving up, now have reversed field and complain about him making a move upwards.
Personally, I love both picks, and applaud the Packers for shrewd planning and the courage to go after players they want.

such a simpleton view while ignoring what he gave up to move up

I'm fully on board to give up fair value to move up; I'm fine with Matthews and think he can move in a start right away.

If Matthews is a Pro Bowler this still turns out fine

But on paper Bellichek fleeced your hero

The typical anti-Ted treacle.
He's wrong if he doesn't draft your man-crush.
He's wrong if he doesn't move up.
He's wrong if he does move up.
Back to the Cheetos (and maybe a spoonful of Metamucil).

Best to avoid the facts and go general when your argument is weak

That was kind of a lame counter argument.

[Gunakor]

Knowing you are going to get Matthews, would you prefer to give up the #1 next year or what TT actually gave up? I know what I'd do but what does eveybody else think?

I'd never want to give up a future #1. For anything. You never know what next years #1 could bring.

[RashanGary]

I think what we gave up was better.

[The Shadow]

He's wrong if he doesn't draft your man-crush.
He's wrong if he doesn't move up.
He's wrong if he does move up.


In your world, this is not fact??

[Partial]

Knowing you are going to get Matthews, would you prefer to give up the #1 next year or what TT actually gave up? I know what I'd do but what does eveybody else think?

Without a doubt give up the picks this year. Look at the kids coming out next year. The 1st round will be extremely deep.. like 2006 deep with all the star power and big names.

[denverYooper]

Horrible trade by Denver imo.

Denver just got raped... what the hell...

Missed it, what was it?

2010 first for the Seahawk's 2nd round pick, and they took a CB, which wasn't really a need unlike EVERY OTHER POSITION ON THE FRONT SEVEN!

What are they doing up there in the mountains?

I don't know about anyone else up here at 5280 but I'm tipping back some coldies to the Pack's big first round.

[retailguy]

He's wrong if he doesn't draft your man-crush.
He's wrong if he doesn't move up.
He's wrong if he does move up.


In your world, this is not fact??

he didn't say those things, he said they gave up too much.

[Rastak]

Bengals take Rey Maualuga........not a bad value pick!



Overall Football Traits

Production 2 2005: Maualuga appeared in 12 games recording 37 tackles including 4.5 TFL's. 2006-07: He appeared in all 26 games (22 starts) recording a total of 157 tackles, 15.5 TFL's, and eight sacks. 2008: Maualuga appears in and starts 12 out of 13 games registering 79 tackles, 2.5 TFL's, two interceptions, four pass break-ups, and one QBH. Earned first team-All-Pac Ten honors during the past three seasons and was selected as a unanimous first team All-American selection during his senior campaign in 2008.

Height-Weight-Speed 2 Displays an outstanding combination of size and straight-line speed on film. Timed speed is not as good, although hamstring injury clearly affected his 40-yard dash result at the Combine.

Durability 4 Durability is a somewhat of a concern. Did not start versus Notre Dame in 2006 because of a left wrist injury. He sustained hip pointer versus Arizona State in 2007, which limited him versus Notre Dame. Entered the 2008 season with a broken finger. He missed the Oregon contest in 2008 after spraining his right knee the week prior against Oregon State. He also pulled up with a hamstring injury during his first attempt at the 40-yard dash at the Combine.

Character 4 He was arrested in November of 2005 for suspicion of misdemeanor battery following a fight he was involved in during a Halloween party. He turned himself into authorities and agreed to attend anger management and Alcoholics Anonymous meetings, as well as perform community service. Father died of brain cancer two days prior to 2006 Rose Bowl. Maualuga was also disciplined for his involvement in an incident at a fraternity party in October of 2006. Was demoted to special teams versus Oregon State that season after he overslept a meeting.

Inside Linebacker specific Traits

Instincts/Recognition 3 Still is undisciplined at times. Not always great at playing within the scheme. He's improving in this area, though. Recognizes play action and reacts well.
Pursuit/Point of Attack 2 Pursuit angles are inconsistent. Otherwise, he is excellent in this area. He is a violent hitter with outstanding power at the point of attack. Down-hill aggressive thumper. Does a nice job of controlling and shedding blockers. Opens hips extremely well and changes directions instantly. Shows excellent overall range for his size.

Tackling 2 A knock-out artist. Will violently explode through ball carriers when given the opportunity. Only knock is that he will miss an occasional makeable tackles due to poor angles or leaving feet in an effort to deliver the big hit.

Pass Coverage 2 Has some stiffness in hips and will be limited in certain man-to-man coverage matchups in the NFL. Does a good job of looking up shallow crossers and disrupting their routes. Is able to sniff out and react to screens extremely well. Shows good ball skills.

Pass Rusher 2 Relentless and times stunts well. Displays adequate lower body strength and flashes the ability to collapse the pocket. Shows good closing speed.

[retailguy]

I think what we gave up was better.

than what?

[The Shadow]

Horrible trade by Denver imo.

Denver just got raped... what the hell...

Missed it, what was it?

2010 first for the Seahawk's 2nd round pick, and they took a CB, which wasn't really a need unlike EVERY OTHER POSITION ON THE FRONT SEVEN!

What are they doing up there in the mountains?

I don't know about anyone else up here at 5280 but I'm tipping back some coldies to the Pack's big first round.

The beer is now flowing like....like....... beer.

[Gunakor]

I think what we gave up was better.

than what?

Next years first round pick.

[Partial]

Really like this pick by the Bengals. They're having a good draft so far imo. Two people who will be good players. Little risk imo.

[Fosco33]

So TT trades away Favre's pick for Bruce's nephew. Bruce Matthews played in more games (296) than any NFL player, excluding kickers and punters, and played in more seasons (19) than any offensive lineman.

Let's hope Clay has his uncle's durability!

I'm 'ok' with the pick but see lots of holes left with not much of this draft and no real FAs remaining. Are we gonna seach the cut list in August?

[retailguy]

I think what we gave up was better.

than what?

Next years first round pick.

oh. that makes sense, and I agree. I think next years pick is going to be very high.

[jmbarnes101]

I think what we gave up was better.

than what?

Than what Denver gave up to go higher in the 2nd round.