The official 2009 DRAFT thread

[cpk1994]

So TT trades away Favre's pick for Bruce's nephew. Bruce Matthews played in more games (296) than any NFL player, excluding kickers and punters, and played in more seasons (19) than any offensive lineman.

Let's hope Clay has his uncle's durability!

I'm 'ok' with the pick but see lots of holes left with not much of this draft and no real FAs remaining. Are we gonna seach the cut list in August?

Well, Clay's father wasn't too shabby either.

[Bretsky]

He's wrong if he doesn't draft your man-crush.
He's wrong if he doesn't move up.
He's wrong if he does move up.


In your world, this is not fact??

All of this is general babble

When did I say he was wrong to not move up or to move up ?

Reality as most see it is it makes sense if you give up fair value and hit.

I questioned whether he gave up too much and several have posted the numbers if you missed it. Do you have supporting evidence to counter those numbers or is it back to the generic babble ?

I also noted that if Matthews turned out to be a Pro Bowler the numbers don't really matter; even you might agree with this...maybe ?

[Rastak]

I see Britton, Beaty and Loadholt are all still on the board.....

[retailguy]

So TT trades away Favre's pick for Bruce's nephew. Bruce Matthews played in more games (296) than any NFL player, excluding kickers and punters, and played in more seasons (19) than any offensive lineman.

Let's hope Clay has his uncle's durability!

I'm 'ok' with the pick but see lots of holes left with not much of this draft and no real FAs remaining. Are we gonna seach the cut list in August?

"I think we're fine there"....

[packers11]

E. Brown and E. Britton still on the board...

[Bretsky]

[quote="retailguy"]

He's wrong if he doesn't draft your man-crush.
He's wrong if he doesn't move up.
He's wrong if he does move up.


In your world, this is not fact??

he didn't say those things, he said they gave up too much.[/quote


yup

[retailguy]

E. Brown and E. Britton still on the board...

not anymore. britton gone.

[Gunakor]

Jags just got 2 bookend tackles today. Well done on their part.

[Rastak]

Eben Britton ( there he goes!)


Overall Football Traits

Production 2 2005: Arizona red-shirts Britton. 2006-2008: Britton starts all 37 games at left tackle.
Height-Weight-Speed 2 Possesses prototypical height and adequate bulk. Also is one of the faster OT's in the 2009 class.

Durability 1 Didn't miss a start in three seasons at Arizona.

Character 2 No issues to our knowledge.

Offensive Tackle specific Traits

Strength/Toughness 3 Doesn't play with enough of an edge and is a finesse blocker that is going to have a difficult time driving two-gap defensive ends off the ball. Above-average upper body strength and flashes a strong punch. But lacks ideal overall strength and plays with a lean base.

Agility 2 Doesn't show great body control in space and has problems covering up defenders downfield. However, he has adequate overall athleticism. Shows good initial quickness and his lateral mobility is better than expected. Also takes solid angles and shows sound footwork.

Awareness 1 Elite in this category. Rarely misses assignment. Keeps head on swivel and recognizes stunts as well as blitzes. Technically sound.

Pass Protection 2 Quick off the ball and gets good depth in pass sets. Does a much better job of shuffling his feet and mirroring rushers than expected. Does a nice job of passing off rushers to the inside and quickly repositioning himself when defensive end slants inside and defensive tackle loops around. However, he doesn't always sink hips enough and he can give too much ground to bull rushers. He also has very short arms (32 ¾') for the position, which is detrimental in perimeter pass pro.

Run Blocking 3 Uses quick first step to beat most defenders off the ball and get into strong initial position. Does a nice job of reaching defenders and cutting off the backside. Can engulf and collapse smaller defenders. Is relatively smooth when climbing to the second level but will struggle to hit moving targets at times. Feet occasionally go dead upon contact. He doesn't create a new line of scrimmage and he lacks ideal strength to drive defenders back when necessary.

[Bretsky]

I'd probably never want to give up a first either so I'd guess giving up what we did would be better.

Those who noted E Brown was a bit soft and a one trick pony for the pass rush seem to be right

For a while he was projected to go into the top 10

[HarveyWallbangers]

I'm outta here. I liked the Raji pick. I think we might have given up too much to trade up, but I like the bios on Matthews now. I hadn't really studied him before because I didn't think there was a chance we'd get him. We'll probably get two starters out of this draft. I think we need at least one more (DE), and maybe two (RT), so I'm with those that say get Vonnie Holliday or Kevin Carter (is he still out there?) on the phone. Otherwise, I'm okay with the projected starters.

[Rastak]

Jags just got 2 bookend tackles today. Well done on their part.

Agreed....

[jmbarnes101]

So TT trades away Favre's pick for Bruce's nephew. Bruce Matthews played in more games (296) than any NFL player, excluding kickers and punters, and played in more seasons (19) than any offensive lineman.

Let's hope Clay has his uncle's durability!

I'm 'ok' with the pick but see lots of holes left with not much of this draft and no real FAs remaining. Are we gonna seach the cut list in August?

What holes? TT has clearly said that there isn't a glaring need on this team and that he's content with the roster we have. Having added Raji and Matthews and if Harrell and Jenkins are healthy we've effectively plugged any huge holes we had on defense. While we need a RT we already have players on the squad that have the potential to play that position.

Wait, we do need a punter so I guess we have one glaring hole left to fill.

[retailguy]

I'd probably never want to give up a first either so I'd guess giving up what we did would be better.

Those who noted E Brown was a bit soft and a one trick pony for the pass rush seem to be right

For a while he was projected to go into the top 10

maybe he falls to us in the 5th?

[Fosco33]

http://twitter.com/NickBarnett

Seems excited. Said he was going over to A.J.'s place.

Well, we now have A.J. and B.J. Any prospects named C.J.?

On the conf call he said his Dad sometimes goes by Sr and he can be called junior or III. So - really he could go by CJ (or maybe his mid name is James or Joseph).

Lol