The official 2009 DRAFT thread

[Bretsky]

Wow, that is very interesting. McGinn better not slam these picks then.

I think what sucks the most is all the excitment is gone. I have to wait until pick 104? I was all pumped up and bang, it was over.

Like the picks though!

That's how I felt. I didn't look into Matthews much. I like the pick more, the more I find out.

The shock was losing our 2nd and 3rds. It all happened so quick. We did get another 1st, so it was a very valuable pick. Still, it was a shock. I miss those extra picks.

spot on; it's a shock away from what TT normally does. There are still some very solid LB's on the board at 41. I'm still shocked we gave up what was way over the value chart with these trades. Usually they are close.

We have to trust TT thinks Matthews is a Pro Bowler and if he's right it'll end up a fine move

[jmbarnes101]

I don't know if Matthews is a future pro-bowler but he sounds like exactly the type of player we needed opposite of Aaron. He also sounds like the kind of player that the Patriots and Steelers would normally take so that should be a factor. He just sounds like a plus-plus guy with the right intangibles. I can't wait to watch this D next year.

Also, why is everybody so down on our CB's and think it's a need? We have two solid to great starters followed by Tramon and we have no idea what we have in Pat Lee (last year's #2).

[gbpackfan]

we could be Raiders fans:

1 - D. Hey-Bay (Troy Williamson Jr.)
1 - Micheal "Nobody" Mitchell

YIKES

[Rastak]

Okay Texans take Barwin....



Overall Football Traits

Production 3 2005-'06: Barwin starts his career as a tight end and sees action in 24 games in a backup role. He catches 21 passes for a total of 292 yards and three touchdowns. 2007: Barwin sees time on both sides of the ball as a reserve tight end and defensive end. He catches 31 passes for a total of 399 yards and two touchdowns. Barwin also makes three tackles and recovers a fumble. 2008: Barwin starts all 14 games at defensive end and records 53 tackles including 16 tackles-for-loss and 11 sacks. He breaks up eight passes and blocks three kicks.

Height-Weight-Speed 2 Prototypical height, prototypical top-end speed and good bulk for 3-4 outside linebacker.

Durability 1 Durability is not a concern to our knowledge.

Character 2 Member of the Cincinnati basketball team in 2005 and 2006. Bearcat Academic Honor Roll (Winter 2007).

Defensive End specific Traits

Agility/Quickness 2 Explosive first step. Shows above-average lateral mobility and body control in space for size but not a quick twitch athlete and going to have some problems matching up in man coverage.
Strength/Toughness 2 Adequate upper body strength and plays with a mean streak. Doesn't shy away from contact. Lower body strength appears just adequate on film.

Instincts 1 Locates the ball quickly, rarely gets caught out of position and generally recovers quickly when does take a false step. Takes sound pursuit angles and closes down cutback lanes. Does an excellent job of getting hands up when quarterback starts throwing motion. Appears to sniff out screens and draws quicker than most.

Pass Rusher 2 Quick enough to turn the corner and shows above-average closing speed for size. Flashes a strong punch and the ability to shed blocks quickly. Fluid looping around defensive tackles on line stunts. Has rare leaping ability, times jumps well and gets hands on more passes than most. Can get under offensive tackle's pads and drive him back into the pocket but doesn't show a wide variety of pass rush moves. Needs to do a better job of forcing offensive tackles to redirect.

Run Stopper 3 Can get engulfed by bigger offensive tackles and going to have problems holding ground against the run if asked to line up at defensive end in a 4-3 scheme but big and strong enough to hold his own working against tight ends. Sideline-to-sideline run defender. Reliable open field tackler that wraps up upon contact.

[gbpackfan]

I don't know if Matthews is a future pro-bowler but he sounds like exactly the type of player we needed opposite of Aaron. He also sounds like the kind of player that the Patriots and Steelers would normally take so that should be a factor. He just sounds like a plus-plus guy with the right intangibles. I can't wait to watch this D next year.

Also, why is everybody so down on our CB's and think it's a need? We have two solid to great starters followed by Tramon and we have no idea what we have in Pat Lee (last year's #2).

Matthews would have been a Patroit if we didnt take him. He is going to be great!

[Lurker64]

Ras, please help me. Who the HELL did the Raiders just take?

[falco]

Completely unrelated; was there a trade betwene BB and TT in 06 or are you really talking about TT being right on a draft pick and comparing with an actual trade >

packers traded down with pats - pats used our pick to take jackson (#38 i think) and we used their pick to take jennings.

[jmbarnes101]

we could be Raiders fans:

1 - D. Hey-Bay (Troy Williamson Jr.)
1 - Micheal "Nobody" Mitchell

YIKES

It sounds like one of the guys I play fantasy football with drafting 3rd string RB's based on training camp production. He never does well.

[gbpackfan]

The Broncos just tried to trump their rivals in the battle of "nobody safeties!"

[Freak Out]

What the fuck did I miss? Did we trade out of the second round? WTF?

Traded our 2nd and 2 3rds for to get the 1.26 pick and took Clay Matthews. I figured everyone else was answering this so I would too.

Thanks for all the responses boys...I come here before I ever go to packers.com or espn.

[Gunakor]

Ras, please help me. Who the HELL did the Raiders just take?

Mayock said he was in the 7th round in his mock. Just another speed guy that Al loves so much.

[Rastak]

Raider stake Michael Mitchell.....



No info.........<snicker>

[jmbarnes101]

I don't know if Matthews is a future pro-bowler but he sounds like exactly the type of player we needed opposite of Aaron. He also sounds like the kind of player that the Patriots and Steelers would normally take so that should be a factor. He just sounds like a plus-plus guy with the right intangibles. I can't wait to watch this D next year.

Also, why is everybody so down on our CB's and think it's a need? We have two solid to great starters followed by Tramon and we have no idea what we have in Pat Lee (last year's #2).

Matthews would have been a Patroit if we didnt take him. He is going to be great!

I think so too. Extremely stoked with TT's draft so far. I'd love to see us get that Fullback (the guy with the F name; can't think of it) tomorrow and a potential tackle or guard along with any of the Badgers D players I'm high on.

[packers11]

Mel Kiper is mad... hahahahaha ... He said the Raiders could have waited until the 5th round and that would be a reach...

[cpk1994]

Kevin Greene is at the podium at Packers.com