PFW : Packers, Walker moving toward complete separation

[Bretsky]

WE ARE NOT GETTING FAIR MARKET VALUE FOR A GUY WHO TORE HIS ACL

And I completely disagree about moving him.

Javon Walker is nothing but a spoiled little bratty boy who wants to get his way and most importantly get rich in doing so. But the latter is his only real goal, and he holds none of the cards.

Javon Walker is recovering from the most serious knee injury in the NFL. We will not receive fair market value until he's healthy and we cannot accept a mid tier draft pick for first round talent. An example must be set that players cannot whine their way out of Green Bay, which isn't exactly a place most players want to be in the first place right now IMO.

Ted Thompson should make it very clear to this punk that if Javon Walker is going to play football in 2006, it is going to be for the Green Bay Packers.

Ted Thompson should make it very clear that if Javon Walker is going for his road to riches, he will first have to excel as a Green Bay Packer.

And Ted Thompson should make it very clear that we are not dealing somebody who blatantly attempts to use the media to get his crying wishes.

We are the Green Bay Packers, and Javon Walker is acting like a punk. Do NOT reward his immaturity. Make him play, or let him retire. AND as Partial keeps saying, if he does excel, stick the franchise tag on him and then get a first rounder.

But this little boy's antics should not push the Green Bay Packers around

[Partial]

Then let him rot and franchise him. If he shows what it takes to be in the top 5 number 1s in the league, somebody will give a first rounder for him.

Moss, coming off a mooning and massive embarrassment to his franchise not to mention a grotesque sum of money netted the vikings a starting linebacker and the #7 overall pick in what was deemed the deal of the century.

If I am the Packers, I don't accept anything less than the Broncos #22 pick. I let him play his 6 games and show that he still has it so he makes the big bucks, or I let him fake an injury. Either way, what I do right now is I tell Javon he will be franchised, and if he wants a long term deal he had better come in ready to perform. That would be the best thing they could do. Since this season has already started, they cannot change any rule that would prohibit this.

[MJZiggy]

Everyone's talking about him coming back and faking an injury. If he had a serious injury last year and comes back only to be "injured" in his first game back, doesn't that just tell other GM's all over the league that he's not back and gives him an "injury-prone" rep? Wouldn't that just kill the payday he so desperately wants? By that time he'll be how old, having never proven himself recovered from his injury and having another one. Would you give him the payday then?

[Murphy37]

I agree kids, let him sit the ten games. And when he comes back, have our punter waiting for him when he enters the locker room. Welcome him back with a drop kick to the nut bag. It's called tough love.

[Bretsky]

I agree kids, let him sit the ten games. And when he comes back, have our punter waiting for him when he enters the locker room. Welcome him back with a drop kick to the nut bag. It's called tough love.

SEEING WE HAVE NO HOLDER I WONDER IF HE CAN HOLD FOR THE DITRY BILL ON FIELD GOALS

[Oscar]

SO it is said to let him play the six games??? So what soes that say to the other recievers that busted ASS through camp and the first ten games of the season??I'm lost here.. I'm going for a beer..

[Rastak]

Then let him rot and franchise him. If he shows what it takes to be in the top 5 number 1s in the league, somebody will give a first rounder for him.

Moss, coming off a mooning and massive embarrassment to his franchise not to mention a grotesque sum of money netted the vikings a starting linebacker and the #7 overall pick in what was deemed the deal of the century.

If I am the Packers, I don't accept anything less than the Broncos #22 pick. I let him play his 6 games and show that he still has it so he makes the big bucks, or I let him fake an injury. Either way, what I do right now is I tell Javon he will be franchised, and if he wants a long term deal he had better come in ready to perform. That would be the best thing they could do. Since this season has already started, they cannot change any rule that would prohibit this.

So let me get this straight, he sits for 10 weeks then comes back and fakes an injury. You STILL don't know if he's 100%. Next year you franchise him so he gets top 5 in the league money without having seen him play.
He doesn't sign the franchise tender until the last minute missing all of camp for the second straight year. He gets "hurt" soon after and makes about 7 mil. Does this make sense?

[Partial]

Yes sir.

If we have to keep him and he is only ok, then fine. Pay him 7 mil for one year and let him go. It's not like we're in a tight squeeze against the cap by any means.

When you Franchise him though, someone will pounce for a second round pick minimum. It is tough to find a big, physical receiver.

[MJZiggy]

Correction: It's tough to find a big, physical receiver THAT CAN PLAY. No one knows if he can still play. He could take one hit and legitimately reinjure and never make it back.

[Rastak]

Yes sir.

If we have to keep him and he is only ok, then fine. Pay him 7 mil for one year and let him go. It's not like we're in a tight squeeze against the cap by any means.

When you Franchise him though, someone will pounce for a second round pick minimum. It is tough to find a big, physical receiver.

I don't think you can deal him until he signs the tender, which he'd wait until the season starts. All that F'ing around for a 2nd round pick?

Okay, sounds like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

[Murphy37]

I never said to start him for the six games. I just said to have the punter kick him in the nut bag. Pay attention.

[Partial]

This is Javon Walker. One of the best, hardest working, physical specimens in the NFL. No doubt in my mind he returns better than ever.

He easily is worth a mid-first round pick. You trade him under the understanding the Packers get a first, he gets a long-term more cap friendly deal, everyone is happy.

[Bretsky]

Yes sir.

If we have to keep him and he is only ok, then fine. Pay him 7 mil for one year and let him go. It's not like we're in a tight squeeze against the cap by any means.

When you Franchise him though, someone will pounce for a second round pick minimum. It is tough to find a big, physical receiver.

I don't think you can deal him until he signs the tender, which he'd wait until the season starts. All that F'ing around for a 2nd round pick?

Okay, sounds like cutting off your nose to spite your face.

RASTAK,

You are assuming JW stays his little boy self instead of finding some sense. When TT takes a hard core stance, that is a decent option.

If JW dogs the whole year either GB can choose to franchise him or he won't get a big payday.

I'm not convinced little boy Walker will dog the whole season. But I'm not giving him away for a measley fourth; I'd rather make a point and end up with a 2nd, 3rd, or less.

[Rastak]

I never said to start him for the six games. I just said to have the punter kick him in the nut bag. Pay attention.

I quoted the other dude.....actually your suggestion would remove him having to fake an injury.

[Rastak]

[quote="Bretsky"][quote="Rastak"]

Yes sir.

RASTAK,

You are assuming JW stays his little boy self instead of finding some sense. When TT takes a hard core stance, that is a decent option.

If JW dogs the whole year either GB can choose to franchise him or he won't get a big payday.

I'm not convinced little boy Walker will dog the whole season. But I'm not giving him away for a measley fourth; I'd rather make a point and end up with a 2nd, 3rd, or less.

Yea, I have no idea how serious he is...he was full of crap last year so you may have the right approach.