I think Moll is dead man walking. Not Barbre. It probably is between Barbre and Giaco. It will be interesting to see which one is listed as the starter on the depth chart come training camp. This position and WOLB will be the ones to watch this summer.
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I think Barbre is in a good position.
Clifton might not make it. He is always limping around and can hardly practice by midseason.
Colledge will move out to LT and Barbre is then the new LG if he can compete with Spitz. He is stronger than Spitz but his technique has not been as good.
Sitton is likely the RG.
Giacomini didn't really show much in preseason last year. It really depends on if Lang suffers from rookieittis.
Meredith was considered a late second round pick on most draft web sites and he likely was the BPA when drafted in the 5th.
Both Meredith and Lang come in with more ability than Giacomini arrived with. I think one becomes the new RT and one becomes the new Tony Moll.
Unfortunately, an injury to a player at random will force the issue of who moves up and who moves out with the injured player (unless it is Clifton) getting another shot next year.
Pick any of the O-line to get injured and you have a whole range of possible scenarios.
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Babre was drafted out of a bumble fuck school with very little experience playing offensive guard. He was tight end basically up to his senior year when they moved him to tackle. He is a work in progress just like every linemen Thompson drafts. So to give up this guy going into his third year is a bit off the wall.
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Barbre is athletic and nasty -- always looking to hit someone. In fact Barbre's temperment reminds of Wahle.
Sure would be nice if Barbre solidifies the right side which is where the majority of Packer running plays are run.
Sitton is assignment sure and tough. Shows the ability to reach the second level. Combined with Barbre maybe the zone blocking scheme is finally consistently executed the way MM desires.
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Moll can not play.Originally posted by BrohmHopefully MM actually allows these lower round developmental picks to work at one position and master instead of flopping around all over. Maybe that's what is hindering the likes of Moll and Barbre....
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I think McGinn is pretty outstanding for a beat writer. The rest of the JS sucks. This forum is by far more informative than the JS.Originally posted by DonHutsonThat seems to be the difference between a column and a blog. You can say any old shit in a blog, quote questionable internet sources, and whatever else.Originally posted by PatlerBedard has become a gossip columnist more than a reporter.
A lot of people here don't like McGinn, but at least the guy has an extensive network of NFL sources to talk to."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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I dunno RetailGuy...Snake used to be a contributer to PackerChatters before the Rats when I joined PR 3 years ago, when PC went to shame. Joe Arrigo may be Bedard, as I think Joe killed Bedard (as his statistically good post went to piss in the last half a year on JSO). Joe always said he had some "bigger" gig he wanted to do, and then "Bedard" went AWOL posting up crazy shit to get "hits" on his JSO blog. This is the reason JSO Packers went to shame...their golden child Bedard starting SUCKING AT LIFE and then at JSO blogs. So, yes, maybe, methinks it's true now. How sad though.Originally posted by retailguyMaybe Bedard is really Joe Arrigo.Originally posted by PatlerBedard has become a gossip columnist more than a reporter.
Arrigo jumped the Shark and Snake left PC when him and Joe Randolph had "all those fucking sources" of TT's tradeup to "CONFIRMED" to get Reggie Bush. Had to leave at that point...and haven't visited since. That was just insanely dumb as 90% of that site feasted on insider rumors, as did Snake, till it go so dumb I had to go.
BTW, Partial...Snake started using BTT (Big Time Teddy) after the first day of the draft when Snake and Ted polished off a few bottles of Scotch celebrating day 1. When did you start using BTT without proper consent?
And if that's true, by punching Ted, that's a hate crime, based on Ted's sexual orientation. If true, he'd be in jail.Originally posted by PartialI've heard that he actually punched BTT, not Campen. Dude's gotta use his head. Can't go around punching people.
Links?
Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.
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Tony Moll is the one who was a tight end until his senior year, then played tackle. Barbre was a four year starter at left tackle for Missouri Southern.Originally posted by Deputy NutzBabre was drafted out of a bumble fuck school with very little experience playing offensive guard. He was tight end basically up to his senior year when they moved him to tackle. He is a work in progress just like every linemen Thompson drafts. So to give up this guy going into his third year is a bit off the wall.
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I agree that Moll is the odd man out.
Not sure where what spots they're looking at putting everyone, but I could see the depth chart shaping up like this:
LT - Clifton, Meredith
LG - Colledge, Lang
C - Spitz, Wells
RG - Sitton, Preston
RT - Barbre, Giacomini
Not sure if they'll keep 10 OL; wouldn't be surprised if they only kept 8 or 9, stashing a rookie or two on the PS. I guess there's that versatility they look for.
Either way, the OL competition will be very interesting. Cross your fingers that a solid group emerges from this bunch. I've seen enough inconsistent OL execution thus far. I'm starting to worry the light will never go on and we'll have to listen to weekly blather about pad level.
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I don't expect Moll to be automaticly cut. He was Tauscher's back up last year so he might be the guy to beat for Tauscher's job this year. I hope somebody does but Moll isn't THAT bad.70% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Al Harris.
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Ah, Patler. The differences between you and me are apparent here. You focus on the facts of the case, while I was more than amused by Nutz's phrase "a bumble fuck school."Originally posted by PatlerTony Moll is the one who was a tight end until his senior year, then played tackle. Barbre was a four year starter at left tackle for Missouri Southern.Originally posted by Deputy NutzBabre was drafted out of a bumble fuck school with very little experience playing offensive guard. He was tight end basically up to his senior year when they moved him to tackle. He is a work in progress just like every linemen Thompson drafts. So to give up this guy going into his third year is a bit off the wall.
I like "bumble fuck." It's my new favorite adjective.
"That was a bumble-fuck draft pick, for sure."
"What a bumble-fuck operation that Denver team has, huh?"
"Man, I wouldn't want to be at the bottom of a pile of players going after a fumble. That'd be a real bumble-fuck."
Nutz, adding to the vocabulary of thousands of Packerrats viewers. Cool"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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As a starter, Moll was consistently beat at rt. At the draft day news conference Coach McCarthy failed to provide a specific position for Moll when asked.Originally posted by 3irty1I don't expect Moll to be automaticly cut. He was Tauscher's back up last year so he might be the guy to beat for Tauscher's job this year. I hope somebody does but Moll isn't THAT bad.
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That is a big oh oh for Tony. Good catch, RBALOHA.Originally posted by rbalohaAs a starter, Moll was consistently beat at rt. At the draft day news conference Coach McCarthy failed to provide a specific position for Moll when asked.Originally posted by 3irty1I don't expect Moll to be automaticly cut. He was Tauscher's back up last year so he might be the guy to beat for Tauscher's job this year. I hope somebody does but Moll isn't THAT bad.[QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.
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Fritz you fucking crack me up. That's this weeks official "Snake shoots beer out his nose laughing POST OF THE WEEK."Originally posted by FritzAh, Patler. The differences between you and me are apparent here. You focus on the facts of the case, while I was more than amused by Nutz's phrase "a bumble fuck school."Originally posted by PatlerTony Moll is the one who was a tight end until his senior year, then played tackle. Barbre was a four year starter at left tackle for Missouri Southern.Originally posted by Deputy NutzBabre was drafted out of a bumble fuck school with very little experience playing offensive guard. He was tight end basically up to his senior year when they moved him to tackle. He is a work in progress just like every linemen Thompson drafts. So to give up this guy going into his third year is a bit off the wall.
I like "bumble fuck." It's my new favorite adjective.
"That was a bumble-fuck draft pick, for sure."
"What a bumble-fuck operation that Denver team has, huh?"
"Man, I wouldn't want to be at the bottom of a pile of players going after a fumble. That'd be a real bumble-fuck."
Nutz, adding to the vocabulary of thousands of Packerrats viewers. Cool
Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.
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