RT

[HarveyWallbangers]

I love it when reporters make comments like this.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/44131022.html

I'm just looking for players that look the part of an NFL player, where they are playing and if I can glean anything about the new defensive scheme.

It's the only practice we have access to. (For the record: booooo!)

Well, part of the reason they limit your access may be because you are going to report any information you can glean about the new scheme.

[vince]

And how ironic is it farther down the page in your link Harv, in the "Favre Update" section that he has the audacity to rail on another reporter who has written something without sourcing it!

[Fritz]

I don't expect Moll to be automaticly cut. He was Tauscher's back up last year so he might be the guy to beat for Tauscher's job this year. I hope somebody does but Moll isn't THAT bad.

As a starter, Moll was consistently beat at rt. At the draft day news conference Coach McCarthy failed to provide a specific position for Moll when asked.

Ah, not so, Aloha. I believe Coach McCarthy, when asked, described Moll's specific position as "fetal."

[rbaloha1]

I don't expect Moll to be automaticly cut. He was Tauscher's back up last year so he might be the guy to beat for Tauscher's job this year. I hope somebody does but Moll isn't THAT bad.

As a starter, Moll was consistently beat at rt. At the draft day news conference Coach McCarthy failed to provide a specific position for Moll when asked.

Ah, not so, Aloha. I believe Coach McCarthy, when asked, described Moll's specific position as "fetal."

HA HA

[KYPack]

I believe Moll's new position will be...

Left Out.

[wist43]

They need to stop bouncing these guys around and let them settle in at a position... even MM admitted that moving guys from one position to another has hurt the lines development and continuity - dah!!!!

And yet, what is the first thing they cite in talking about Meredith and Lang??? Their versatility and ability to play multiple positions....

Good grief, let em get settled into one spot, and go from there... as I've been saying, draft a freaking G, and let him play G; draft a freaking T, and let him play T.

[swede]

But Wist...what if they draft a freaking center?

[Lurker64]

Good grief, let em get settled into one spot, and go from there... as I've been saying, draft a freaking G, and let him play G; draft a freaking T, and let him play T.

I think the thing is that in college generally the best athletes on the offensive line are always offensive tackles, and the guards are always the worst athletes on the offensive line. Since the scheme requires athletic offensive linemen, we're generally not going to be drafting anybody who played a lot of guard in college.

The thing about "not bouncing people around" is not that "we're not going to transition people to a different position" but that "we're not going to try to teach the young guys three different positions at once, since that stunts their growth at each of them."

If they decide Lang is a Guard, pick a side of the line, teach him how to play that side at the NFL level and don't bother teaching him anything else until he masters that.

[Waldo]

Re: RT

Bedard has become a gossip columnist more than a reporter.

Maybe Bedard is really Joe Arrigo.

I dunno RetailGuy...Snake used to be a contributer to PackerChatters before the Rats when I joined PR 3 years ago, when PC went to shame. Joe Arrigo may be Bedard, as I think Joe killed Bedard (as his statistically good post went to piss in the last half a year on JSO). Joe always said he had some "bigger" gig he wanted to do, and then "Bedard" went AWOL posting up crazy shit to get "hits" on his JSO blog. This is the reason JSO Packers went to shame...their golden child Bedard starting SUCKING AT LIFE and then at JSO blogs. So, yes, maybe, methinks it's true now. How sad though.

Arrigo jumped the Shark and Snake left PC when him and Joe Randolph had "all those fucking sources" of TT's tradeup to "CONFIRMED" to get Reggie Bush. Had to leave at that point...and haven't visited since. That was just insanely dumb as 90% of that site feasted on insider rumors, as did Snake, till it go so dumb I had to go.

I view PC and the crew there, the Patties and Arrigo's almost like the crew at FF. At FF many people like to do mock drafts/offseasons and pretend/try to predict what is going to happen. But there is no false pretense, everybody knows the deal, it is just a world of make believe. The PC thing OTOH, that group pretends that they have inside info, that they know what is going on behind the scenes, when reality it is no different, just a world of make believe, however their gig is to pretend that it is truth. We used to have a guy like that at PN years ago.

Funny thing is, when you look at the "insiders" and what their predictions are, and look at the groupthink of a large mock draft community, the better members of the mock draft community actually were more accurate, and our draft picks were almost all names frequently kicked around. I mean, we had Lang in the 4th pegged long ago, it was rare to see a FF mock without him in it, yet the "insiders" never saw that one coming.

[SnakeLH2006]

Re: RT

Bedard has become a gossip columnist more than a reporter.

Maybe Bedard is really Joe Arrigo.

I dunno RetailGuy...Snake used to be a contributer to PackerChatters before the Rats when I joined PR 3 years ago, when PC went to shame. Joe Arrigo may be Bedard, as I think Joe killed Bedard (as his statistically good post went to piss in the last half a year on JSO). Joe always said he had some "bigger" gig he wanted to do, and then "Bedard" went AWOL posting up crazy shit to get "hits" on his JSO blog. This is the reason JSO Packers went to shame...their golden child Bedard starting SUCKING AT LIFE and then at JSO blogs. So, yes, maybe, methinks it's true now. How sad though.

Arrigo jumped the Shark and Snake left PC when him and Joe Randolph had "all those fucking sources" of TT's tradeup to "CONFIRMED" to get Reggie Bush. Had to leave at that point...and haven't visited since. That was just insanely dumb as 90% of that site feasted on insider rumors, as did Snake, till it go so dumb I had to go.

I view PC and the crew there, the Patties and Arrigo's almost like the crew at FF. At FF many people like to do mock drafts/offseasons and pretend/try to predict what is going to happen. But there is no false pretense, everybody knows the deal, it is just a world of make believe. The PC thing OTOH, that group pretends that they have inside info, that they know what is going on behind the scenes, when reality it is no different, just a world of make believe, however their gig is to pretend that it is truth. We used to have a guy like that at PN years ago.

Funny thing is, when you look at the "insiders" and what their predictions are, and look at the groupthink of a large mock draft community, the better members of the mock draft community actually were more accurate, and our draft picks were almost all names frequently kicked around. I mean, we had Lang in the 4th pegged long ago, it was rare to see a FF mock without him in it, yet the "insiders" never saw that one coming.

It's funny cuz Cheesner and I had a discussion about 2-3 days ago about Arrigo on FF. Waldo is this you on there? What happened with Arrigo? This deserves it's own topic, but alas, here's the link:

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=314186&view=next

[HarveyWallbangers]

Hopefully, this guy can win the battle. He has a lot of physical tools.

http://www.packers.com/multimedia/videos/recent/

(Allen Barbre workout video)

The video is interesting because it gives you a look inside the training room. I like the huge banners with Packer legends on them... Starr, Nitschke, etc.

[RashanGary]

I know. I watched that earlier today. Barbre is a freaking brute. He's the guy I've been hoping wins the RT job. He, Sitton and Spitz would make a pretty damn strong center/right side.

[Scott Campbell]

Re: RT

It's funny cuz Cheesner and I had a discussion about 2-3 days ago about Arrigo on FF. Waldo is this you on there? What happened with Arrigo? This deserves it's own topic, but alas, here's the link:

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB...4186&view=next

Holy crap. He posted pics that weren't his, but implied that they were. And then cooked up a story about how he had permission to post them, but got caught lying?

Crazy.

[Joemailman]

It's interesting to see how much they have him, and others I'm sure, working on improving mobility, as opposed to just lifting. I wonder if that is much of a change from what was happening before this year.

[Rastak]

Re: RT

It's funny cuz Cheesner and I had a discussion about 2-3 days ago about Arrigo on FF. Waldo is this you on there? What happened with Arrigo? This deserves it's own topic, but alas, here's the link:

http://www.footballsfuture.com/phpBB...4186&view=next

Holy crap. He posted pics that weren't his, but implied that they were. And then cooked up a story about how he had permission to post them, but got caught lying?

Crazy.

I don't read Packerchatters but from I've read here, did this dude get run out of there on a rail?