Would you like to see Favre play for the Vikings?

[Packnut]

Favre

He's spent a lot of his time making me happy, so if coming back makes him happy, why not? Last time i checked, this is The United freakin States of America, ya know life liberty and the pursuit of whatever..........

From a football stand-point, I'm indifferent. Depending on his shoulder, he could make the Vikes a potent offense. We all know Favre and an actual good run game is a dangerous combo.

Ah, whatever. I'm more worried about the progress of Mr Rodgers than anything or anyone else.

[Partial]

Brett is probably better than Sage, but I'm not all that concerned about him going to the Vikings. 10 TDs and 18 interceptions after week 4 last year. He's struggled mightily down the stretch the last several years. The one year he worked out like a madman in the offseason (2007) he played at MVP level. The other years he's been pretty average. It's May, he has a bum shoulder, and I doubt he's worked that hard this offseason. I just don't see him winning big games in the playoffs anymore, and that's what would be expected out of him. That being said, Minnesota would be a good situation for him. I just think there'd be more disappointment ahead for him.

Dude, no offense, but he's a football player for 20-something year. He's not going to be so horrendously out of shape that a few weeks can't get him back into game shape.

The key would be to start NOW and build up towards camp. There is plenty of time until late July.

I'm not saying whether he should or shouldn't play, but this notion that he's not in "game shape" is crazy talk. Guy was a professional athlete for 18? years. Played football for probably 25 straight now. You anaerobic capacity doesn't just completely go away. He'll be able to build back up in a month or two no doubt about it, then he'd still have plenty of time to ramp down to avoid overworking the CNS.

[MJZiggy]

Brett is probably better than Sage, but I'm not all that concerned about him going to the Vikings. 10 TDs and 18 interceptions after week 4 last year. He's struggled mightily down the stretch the last several years. The one year he worked out like a madman in the offseason (2007) he played at MVP level. The other years he's been pretty average. It's May, he has a bum shoulder, and I doubt he's worked that hard this offseason. I just don't see him winning big games in the playoffs anymore, and that's what would be expected out of him. That being said, Minnesota would be a good situation for him. I just think there'd be more disappointment ahead for him.

Dude, no offense, but he's a football player for 20-something year. He's not going to be so horrendously out of shape that a few weeks can't get him back into game shape.

The key would be to start NOW and build up towards camp. There is plenty of time until late July.

I'm not saying whether he should or shouldn't play, but this notion that he's not in "game shape" is crazy talk. Guy was a professional athlete for 18? years. Played football for probably 25 straight now. You anaerobic capacity doesn't just completely go away. He'll be able to build back up in a month or two no doubt about it, then he'd still have plenty of time to ramp down to avoid overworking the CNS.

Talk to me about it again when you turn 40.

[highlander]

Lagacy? His llegacy is and will always be!! People stop pretending if he comes back it will hurt his legacy. It will not. That being said I will dislike him as I do any Viking, I will wish the Packers to intercept and sack him as many times as possible. However I will always consider him a Packer. IMO it would be a stupid move by him but heck it is his call after all.

[The Leaper]

I don't care what Favre does. At this point in his career, the only place he would've produced any real returns was in Green Bay...where he knew the system and knew the receivers.

The notion that he can step into an entire new situation with different faces and schemes and produce an MVP season is laughable. That was proven in NY, and it will be proven again if he attempts to play in Minnesota.

[hoosier]

Brett is probably better than Sage, but I'm not all that concerned about him going to the Vikings. 10 TDs and 18 interceptions after week 4 last year. He's struggled mightily down the stretch the last several years. The one year he worked out like a madman in the offseason (2007) he played at MVP level. The other years he's been pretty average. It's May, he has a bum shoulder, and I doubt he's worked that hard this offseason. I just don't see him winning big games in the playoffs anymore, and that's what would be expected out of him. That being said, Minnesota would be a good situation for him. I just think there'd be more disappointment ahead for him.

Dude, no offense, but he's a football player for 20-something year. He's not going to be so horrendously out of shape that a few weeks can't get him back into game shape.

The key would be to start NOW and build up towards camp. There is plenty of time until late July.

I'm not saying whether he should or shouldn't play, but this notion that he's not in "game shape" is crazy talk. Guy was a professional athlete for 18? years. Played football for probably 25 straight now. You anaerobic capacity doesn't just completely go away. He'll be able to build back up in a month or two no doubt about it, then he'd still have plenty of time to ramp down to avoid overworking the CNS.

Somebody doesn't have much of a clue about how conditioning works.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I'm glad to see most voted "yes", they're not afraid to see Favre take a risk and have some more fun.

Also glad to see the greatest chunk of those yes voters want to see the Packers beat him up. These are good people. Packer people.

[Harlan Huckleby]

I don't care what Favre does. At this point in his career, the only place he would've produced any real returns was in Green Bay...where he knew the system and knew the receivers.

Montana was effective his first year at KC, and I believe he was coming off injury.

Favre played last season with poor off-season conditioning, as Nutz was preaching. IF he works his butt off, he can still be effective.

[MJZiggy]

I didn't vote but I would have voted no. If he does well, it works against my team. If he does poorly, the QB that I watched for nearly 20 years becomes the very thing he didn't want to be--the guy who stuck around a year too long. This time last year, maybe I'd have been angry enough to wish that on him, but time tempers things I guess.

[Partial]

Brett is probably better than Sage, but I'm not all that concerned about him going to the Vikings. 10 TDs and 18 interceptions after week 4 last year. He's struggled mightily down the stretch the last several years. The one year he worked out like a madman in the offseason (2007) he played at MVP level. The other years he's been pretty average. It's May, he has a bum shoulder, and I doubt he's worked that hard this offseason. I just don't see him winning big games in the playoffs anymore, and that's what would be expected out of him. That being said, Minnesota would be a good situation for him. I just think there'd be more disappointment ahead for him.

Dude, no offense, but he's a football player for 20-something year. He's not going to be so horrendously out of shape that a few weeks can't get him back into game shape.

The key would be to start NOW and build up towards camp. There is plenty of time until late July.

I'm not saying whether he should or shouldn't play, but this notion that he's not in "game shape" is crazy talk. Guy was a professional athlete for 18? years. Played football for probably 25 straight now. You anaerobic capacity doesn't just completely go away. He'll be able to build back up in a month or two no doubt about it, then he'd still have plenty of time to ramp down to avoid overworking the CNS.

Somebody doesn't have much of a clue about how conditioning works.

Clearly you don't. You think his V02 max dropped that much? Do you even know what that is? Facts back up the fact that his anaerobic capabilities shouldn't have decreased THAT much. Dude has two months. Do crossfit workouts 5 days a week for two months at as hard of a pace as you can.. you'll be in fine game shape.

Take Lance Armstrong for example. Guy is an elite athlete, can easily switch sports and run a marathon (much lower intensity exercise) than the Tour, and he'll likely come back and win the tour. Why? Because his anaerobic capacity is out of this world, and that doesn't just go away immediately once its not trained for a few weeks. It can quickly be brought back up to speed.

[MJZiggy]

Brett is probably better than Sage, but I'm not all that concerned about him going to the Vikings. 10 TDs and 18 interceptions after week 4 last year. He's struggled mightily down the stretch the last several years. The one year he worked out like a madman in the offseason (2007) he played at MVP level. The other years he's been pretty average. It's May, he has a bum shoulder, and I doubt he's worked that hard this offseason. I just don't see him winning big games in the playoffs anymore, and that's what would be expected out of him. That being said, Minnesota would be a good situation for him. I just think there'd be more disappointment ahead for him.

Dude, no offense, but he's a football player for 20-something year. He's not going to be so horrendously out of shape that a few weeks can't get him back into game shape.

The key would be to start NOW and build up towards camp. There is plenty of time until late July.

I'm not saying whether he should or shouldn't play, but this notion that he's not in "game shape" is crazy talk. Guy was a professional athlete for 18? years. Played football for probably 25 straight now. You anaerobic capacity doesn't just completely go away. He'll be able to build back up in a month or two no doubt about it, then he'd still have plenty of time to ramp down to avoid overworking the CNS.

Somebody doesn't have much of a clue about how conditioning works.

Clearly you don't. You think his V02 max dropped that much? Do you even know what that is? Facts back up the fact that his anaerobic capabilities shouldn't have decreased THAT much. Dude has two months. Do crossfit workouts 5 days a week for two months at as hard of a pace as you can.. you'll be in fine game shape.

No, YOU might be. As we age, we tend to lose muscle max and conditioning naturally. Sitting on your ass for a couple months means double to make up at his age. Why do you think 40 year old men time worse in races, etc. even if they keep up the conditioning? And don't really call it two months either. He was in nowhere near the shape this last season as the season before.

[Gunakor]

I'm glad to see most voted "yes", they're not afraid to see Favre take a risk and have some more fun.

Also glad to see the greatest chunk of those yes voters want to see the Packers beat him up. These are good people. Packer people.

Well, I didn't vote because the reason why I'd vote the way I would isn't included in one of the poll options. I'd vote no, because I just want him to retire. I'm not scared of him, I don't think he'd have too much success against our secondary. I just don't want him coming back this time. He made his decision - again - and I want him to stick to it this time. Because threads like this one will inevitably be started thousands of times over until he is gone.

I want Packer fans talking about the Packers. I don't want to see a great wall of Favre topics on the front page of the Packers forum again. I don't want an *OFFICIAL BRETT THE VIKING" thread - here especially, at my favorite Packer site. I'm sick of the wedge that's been driven through the heart of Packer Nation as well as our own community here at PR. I want it to end, and that won't happen until Favre's career officially ends. I'd rather enjoy the company of fellow Packer fans discussing our own team than be around a split crowd discussing Brett Favre in a goddamn VIKINGS uniform. It couldn't be any more fun than when he was in a Jets uniform. Since he's decided to retire - twice - I want him to retire.

[hoosier]

Brett is probably better than Sage, but I'm not all that concerned about him going to the Vikings. 10 TDs and 18 interceptions after week 4 last year. He's struggled mightily down the stretch the last several years. The one year he worked out like a madman in the offseason (2007) he played at MVP level. The other years he's been pretty average. It's May, he has a bum shoulder, and I doubt he's worked that hard this offseason. I just don't see him winning big games in the playoffs anymore, and that's what would be expected out of him. That being said, Minnesota would be a good situation for him. I just think there'd be more disappointment ahead for him.

Dude, no offense, but he's a football player for 20-something year. He's not going to be so horrendously out of shape that a few weeks can't get him back into game shape.

The key would be to start NOW and build up towards camp. There is plenty of time until late July.

I'm not saying whether he should or shouldn't play, but this notion that he's not in "game shape" is crazy talk. Guy was a professional athlete for 18? years. Played football for probably 25 straight now. You anaerobic capacity doesn't just completely go away. He'll be able to build back up in a month or two no doubt about it, then he'd still have plenty of time to ramp down to avoid overworking the CNS.

Somebody doesn't have much of a clue about how conditioning works.

Clearly you don't. You think his V02 max dropped that much? Do you even know what that is? Facts back up the fact that his anaerobic capabilities shouldn't have decreased THAT much. Dude has two months. Do crossfit workouts 5 days a week for two months at as hard of a pace as you can.. you'll be in fine game shape.

Take Lance Armstrong for example. Guy is an elite athlete, can easily switch sports and run a marathon (much lower intensity exercise) than the Tour, and he'll likely come back and win the tour. Why? Because his anaerobic capacity is out of this world, and that doesn't just go away immediately once its not trained for a few weeks. It can quickly be brought back up to speed.

Vo2 max isn't anaerobic, it's aerobic capacity. But why are we even discussing Vo2max? You're not an expert in exercise physiology and neither am I. But I do know my 40 year old body. I run 40 miles a week. If I stop doing that for three months, I'm not going to be in any condition to go pick it up just like that.

[Harlan Huckleby]

The reason why swimmers generally peak so early is because that sport is all about .... whatever. metabolism.

[Partial]

Brett is probably better than Sage, but I'm not all that concerned about him going to the Vikings. 10 TDs and 18 interceptions after week 4 last year. He's struggled mightily down the stretch the last several years. The one year he worked out like a madman in the offseason (2007) he played at MVP level. The other years he's been pretty average. It's May, he has a bum shoulder, and I doubt he's worked that hard this offseason. I just don't see him winning big games in the playoffs anymore, and that's what would be expected out of him. That being said, Minnesota would be a good situation for him. I just think there'd be more disappointment ahead for him.

Dude, no offense, but he's a football player for 20-something year. He's not going to be so horrendously out of shape that a few weeks can't get him back into game shape.

The key would be to start NOW and build up towards camp. There is plenty of time until late July.

I'm not saying whether he should or shouldn't play, but this notion that he's not in "game shape" is crazy talk. Guy was a professional athlete for 18? years. Played football for probably 25 straight now. You anaerobic capacity doesn't just completely go away. He'll be able to build back up in a month or two no doubt about it, then he'd still have plenty of time to ramp down to avoid overworking the CNS.

Somebody doesn't have much of a clue about how conditioning works.

Clearly you don't. You think his V02 max dropped that much? Do you even know what that is? Facts back up the fact that his anaerobic capabilities shouldn't have decreased THAT much. Dude has two months. Do crossfit workouts 5 days a week for two months at as hard of a pace as you can.. you'll be in fine game shape.

No, YOU might be. As we age, we tend to lose muscle max and conditioning naturally. Sitting on your ass for a couple months means double to make up at his age. Why do you think 40 year old men time worse in races, etc. even if they keep up the conditioning? And don't really call it two months either. He was in nowhere near the shape this last season as the season before.

I completely agree. That's why it takes the young guys a couple of weeks. You're crazy if you think a world class athlete is suddenly out of shape, slow, etc in just a few months. Do you think he sat on his hands the entire time? No, he's probably out doing things, moving around, etc etc.

That stuff would come back to a premiere athlete quick, no matter what.

Hoosier, V02 max is an excellent indicator of ones ability to push hard for long periods of time. Take Tabata and HIIT, which are the two acitivities that really increase V02 max. What are they? Highly anaerobic acitivities. Premiere athletes body's are more efficient.

There is little doubt that Favre could easily get into 2007 shape in the next two months. Not a doubt in my mind.