Can Dom Capers bring out the best in McCarthy?

[gex]

If things do not go all that good this year, we could already have our next head coach in Capers.

[SnakeLH2006]

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Hope so for MM, cuz Dom is the next coach in GB if we don't make the playoffs this year. I really like Dom, but as good as MM seemed early on, he's seemed to have peaked. Kinda plain jane (which is fine with X's and O's) but doesn't seem to have a killer instinct, or ANY personality, either. Which again, is fine if we are winning, but damn if Dom doesn't demand respect. Watch yo back MM, watch it good. It's usually a killer for a HC to bring in a former HC with extensive HC experience (usually a last resort to save their own job like MM's...so he better hope he wins, cuz if he don't...off with his head on Dom's platter). I'm indifferent as MM in Snake's opinion has peaked. If he wins, ok, if not, get him out...I'm sure TT and Dom have this all figured out to save their own jobs anyway, lol.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I hope Capers is standing beside MM during the game so MM can benefit from Capers' experience in strategery when the game's on the line. That's MM's biggest weakness as far as I can tell.

[vince]

I seem to recall that in his first pc with the Packers, Capers said he prefers to be in the booth as DC during games.

[Fritz]

I'm not sure getting laid every night for a change didn't soften McCarthy up just a hair last year, but prior to that, he had as much edge, commitment, and drive as any coach in the game. Aside from any critique of his playcalling/X's and O's, McCarthy is a strong leader - stronger than Capers IMO, and he has and will continue to have no problem keeping the respect of the coaches and team. Building a better staff would only help lift him to greater heights.

In another thread, someone quoted MM as saying that Tyrell Sutton, the FA running back, has some "spring in his staff."

So which staff are you talking about, Vince? You said at the beginning of the post that MM was "soft" because he was getting laid too much, but at the end you say his staff will "lift him to greater heights."

I'm getting confused.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I seem to recall that in his first pc with the Packers, Capers said he prefers to be in the booth as DC during games.

This is even better. Logistically, it would be hard for Capers and MM to be together on the sidelines. Maybe in the booth Capers will have MM's ear.

[I know...I know..."hard"...."have MM's ear."]

[Gunakor]

Re: Great

What problem do you have with Philbin? The offense has been #4 and #5 in the league in total offense his 2 years as OC.

lack of running game and he was the ex OL coach where we have not seem overwhelming progress

His job isn't specific to the OL though. As Joe pointed out, his offense has ranked very highly 2 years running. We would be incredibly spoiled to complain about Philbin right now.

Plus, I still can't understand where this lack of a running game thing comes from. Teams that just can't run the ball don't have a RB who finishes ranked 9th in the league in total yards rushing, nor do they generally have a QB ranked in the top 10 in nearly every passing catagory as defenses are playing the pass all the time. 3.9 yards per carry isn't awful, either. Again, we are spoiled by the fact that Grant popped off 60 yard TD runs regularly in 2007. We call him a disappointment because he did not do the same in 2008. Yet we still got the yards, we still scored the points, so I don't understand the frustration. Perspective, people. This offense is still very, very good.

[cpk1994]

Re: Great

What problem do you have with Philbin? The offense has been #4 and #5 in the league in total offense his 2 years as OC.

lack of running game and he was the ex OL coach where we have not seem overwhelming progress

His job isn't specific to the OL though. As Joe pointed out, his offense has ranked very highly 2 years running. We would be incredibly spoiled to complain about Philbin right now.

Plus, I still can't understand where this lack of a running game thing comes from. Teams that just can't run the ball don't have a RB who finishes ranked 9th in the league in total yards rushing, nor do they generally have a QB ranked in the top 10 in nearly every passing catagory as defenses are playing the pass all the time. 3.9 yards per carry isn't awful, either. Again, we are spoiled by the fact that Grant popped off 60 yard TD runs regularly in 2007. We call him a disappointment because he did not do the same in 2008. Yet we still got the yards, we still scored the points, so I don't understand the frustration. Perspective, people. This offense is still very, very good.

Exactly. Put the OL blame where it belongs, James Campen. He is the one that I am baffled that is still empployed.

[Bretsky]

To be fair I was not the one criticizing Philbin; althought I also won't argue with anybody who does.

Like Bob Sanders, IMO he was the easy hire and was kind of handed the job as opposed to going outside the organization for the type of experience Capers brings

[Gunakor]

To be fair I was not the one criticizing Philbin; althought I also won't argue with anybody who does.

Like Bob Sanders, IMO he was the easy hire and was kind of handed the job as opposed to going outside the organization for the type of experience Capers brings

Philbin was retained because MM didn't want to scrap the ZBS, and Philbin knew the ZBS being Jags OL coach. It was more than just the easy hire, it was a hire that fit.

[Merlin]

The hiring of Capers should motivate McCarthy. I am not so sure the decision was all his, I am sure Thompson had something to do with it. If McCarthy doesn't produce this season, you can be sure Thompson won't hesitate to pull the trigger. Thompson is all about Thompson and I seriously doubt he will be let go before McCarthy is if the mediocrity continues.

[PlantPage55]

Thompson is all about Thompson

Where the hell do you get this crap?

[swede]

Re: Great

Exactly. Put the OL blame where it belongs, James Campen. He is the one that I am baffled that is still employed.

When Favre was miked up for a game he told one of the O-line guys that he'd done a good job, adding "Way to overcome your coaching!"

I laughed, but one wonders how much truth if any...?

[SnakeLH2006]

Re: Great

Exactly. Put the OL blame where it belongs, James Campen. He is the one that I am baffled that is still employed.

When Favre was miked up for a game he told one of the O-line guys that he'd done a good job, adding "Way to overcome your coaching!"

I laughed, but one wonders how much truth if any...?

It pains Snake to run upstairs and grab his calendar and sharpie, but damn, CPK, that was your best post in....EVER (not alot to choose from tho). But, alas, the Snake agrees....Campy is terrible. Forget nostalgia, being a former Packer, if any position with talent hasn't advanced (blame coaching) it's gotta be the OL. Campy HAS got to be TT's Yahtzee buddy on Friday nights (TT's nite out for off time). He's just gotta be.

[Gunakor]

Re: Great

Exactly. Put the OL blame where it belongs, James Campen. He is the one that I am baffled that is still employed.

When Favre was miked up for a game he told one of the O-line guys that he'd done a good job, adding "Way to overcome your coaching!"

I laughed, but one wonders how much truth if any...?

It pains Snake to run upstairs and grab his calendar and sharpie, but damn, CPK, that was your best post in....EVER (not alot to choose from tho). But, alas, the Snake agrees....Campy is terrible. Forget nostalgia, being a former Packer, if any position with talent hasn't advanced (blame coaching) it's gotta be the OL. Campy HAS got to be TT's Yahtzee buddy on Friday nights (TT's nite out for off time). He's just gotta be.

The interior guys have progressed during Campen's time as their position coach. Colledge was the brightest spot on our entire OL last season IMO. Spitz looks pretty good too. You can't really blame Campen for not getting more out of a guy like Moll, who really just isn't a very good lineman. Sitton was hurt the first month of the season last year, Barbre punched a coach and was on timeout, etc. The tackles are wearing down and seem to be almost done (Tauscher might be already). All things considered, I think we could have done far worse than even Campen for an OL coach.