Chewy is still a LOSER!!!

[pbmax]

MJS did a very good job covering it and you could easily see that the case really shouldn't have been tried in the first place. I guarantee if it had been Joe Schmo on the street, that case never would have been tried in the first place.

Please provide some links to this coverage. I read it daily and recall it was very close to Chmura being convicted. I do not remember the coverage making the case that the charges should not have been brought, though in the end the lack of any physical trauma hurt the girl's case. That and the fact that she waited to report. But neither of these facts are necessarily inconsistent with rape.

And the other poster who claims the story was made up to cover for a potential reputation problem ought to cough up some facts of their own to justify that brand of stupidity.

[swede]

care to share any of the stories?

The place I used to bartend at was Route 66. For those familiar with Appleton, WI it was across the street from the Radisson (where the visiting teams usually stayed day before the game). It has changed hands (and names) a few times since I bartended there in the mid 90s (most recently was the place Nick Barnett got hassled/arrested at last year).

Chewy, Brett had an entourage (one I believe was Mooch, the others I couldn't recognize). When I did see them in, the chicks swarmed them for autographs (some even having their "chest" areas autographed by them). The entourage I couldn't care less about because they repeatedly kept asking us to by them and Brett drinks.

At another bar, (I don't want to name it because it's still in business), Brett would periodically go behind the bar and sling drinks. Sometimes order pizza and have it delivered to the bar. Sometimes some skirt chasing also.

At the Philing (pronounced "filling") Station, (now the The Bar on College Ave.) the owners knew my boss. My boss told me Favre had a private booth where he could go and drink and not be bothered. He went there more often than other establishments.

Today you can see a lot of Packers hanging around Appleton because it's close enough to get to, but far enough away from Green Bay to not get noticed as much. Obviously not as much to do as Milwaukee, but that's another 2 hours south.

I lived in Appleton when I was young. In the Appleton Post Crescent one evening there was a B.C. cartoon that had Peter and B.C. hanging out by the rock.

B.C.: What are you doing Saturday night?

Peter: Going to Appleton.

B.C.: Why are you going to Appleton?

Peter: What's there to do in Green Bay?

[GrnBay007]

MJS did a very good job covering it and you could easily see that the case really shouldn't have been tried in the first place. I guarantee if it had been Joe Schmo on the street, that case never would have been tried in the first place.

Please provide some links to this coverage. I read it daily and recall it was very close to Chmura being convicted. I do not remember the coverage making the case that the charges should not have been brought, though in the end the lack of any physical trauma hurt the girl's case. That and the fact that she waited to report. But neither of these facts are necessarily inconsistent with rape.

And the other poster who claims the story was made up to cover for a potential reputation problem ought to cough up some facts of their own to justify that brand of stupidity.

PB!


I'll go on record saying I don't care if he was convicted or not. He is a loser for having any type of sexual contact with a minor.

[rbaloha1]

MJS did a very good job covering it and you could easily see that the case really shouldn't have been tried in the first place. I guarantee if it had been Joe Schmo on the street, that case never would have been tried in the first place.

Please provide some links to this coverage. I read it daily and recall it was very close to Chmura being convicted. I do not remember the coverage making the case that the charges should not have been brought, though in the end the lack of any physical trauma hurt the girl's case. That and the fact that she waited to report. But neither of these facts are necessarily inconsistent with rape.

And the other poster who claims the story was made up to cover for a potential reputation problem ought to cough up some facts of their own to justify that brand of stupidity.

PB!


I'll go on record saying I don't care if he was convicted or not. He is a loser for having any type of sexual contact with a minor.

What sexual contact with a minor? Please provide details.

[pbmax]

The girl made-up the story in order to save face by not being casted as a slut. Chewy was found innocent.

The girl you are castigating as a liar here? She was 17 years old at the time of the "lie" you believe she told.

[rbaloha1]

The girl made-up the story in order to save face by not being casted as a slut. Chewy was found innocent.

The girl you are castigating as a liar here? She was 17 years old at the time of the "lie" you believe she told.

It was proven in a court of law not in the court of public opinion.

She entered the bathroom uninvited that Chewy was in. Within a few minutes supposedly sexual intercourse occurred.

When the girl went missing her group of girlfriends (btw they all made a pledge to stay virgins until marriage) went looking for her. A boy pointed to the bathroom. They opened the door and found Chewy fully clothed and the girl crying.

Everyone asked her what happened. In order not to appear like a slut she made-up a sex story. Recall her defense was her hyman was broken. Since she was a virgin Chewy must have had sexual intercourse with her.

Well her story was a complete fabrication despite what her mother says. Chewy is guilty of poor judgment not rape. BTW the girl was Chewy's babysitter and had a crush on him.

[rbaloha1]

The girl made-up the story in order to save face by not being casted as a slut. Chewy was found innocent.

The girl you are castigating as a liar here? She was 17 years old at the time of the "lie" you believe she told.

Are you saying you believe her story? Did Chewy get away with statutory rape? Please respond to these questions.

[SnakeLH2006]

True insight you don't get off blogs:

Snake can't say for sure..but it looks like the 3 amigos (Brett, Chuey, and Frankie Winters) were all players at the time in the mid 90's. My bro was and is still Brett's buddy (they have grilled out in yearly) as my bro was a student at De Pere in the early 90's and says all 3 were regular members at the bar, the Green Knight (where he and the Pack players came to drink). He's told me all 3 were unbelievable drunks/players as was he, but Chuey was kinda sleazy (I trust my bro as this dude has 100% class, pedigree..real good guy that don't talk down on anyone). Favre learned his lesson it looks and it still looks like Chuey is bitter.

Post from that link:

Posted by Richie G. (Lynbrook) | May 2, 2009 08:13

So who looks more of a fool? A man who loves the game and wants to compete at the highest level or some guy hitting on his daughters friend during a prom party??

[Fritz]

Whatever you think of Chmura and whether he did/did not do anything illegal/immoral that night or any other night, the original post asks about Chmura talking about Favre coming back.

To me, this is the same interview that has occurred over the past three or four years. Just change the name. Replace "Chmura" with "Butler" or "Driver" or whomever is being interviewed. They give their opinions, and because they know Brett Favre, or have known him, they are given credence. I didn't see Chmura particularly grinding any axes, just speculating, like everyone else.

[cpk1994]

MJS did a very good job covering it and you could easily see that the case really shouldn't have been tried in the first place. I guarantee if it had been Joe Schmo on the street, that case never would have been tried in the first place.

Please provide some links to this coverage. I read it daily and recall it was very close to Chmura being convicted. I do not remember the coverage making the case that the charges should not have been brought, though in the end the lack of any physical trauma hurt the girl's case. That and the fact that she waited to report. But neither of these facts are necessarily inconsistent with rape.

And the other poster who claims the story was made up to cover for a potential reputation problem ought to cough up some facts of their own to justify that brand of stupidity.

SInce that was so long ago, MJS probably doesn't have it linked anymore unless it is in their pay archive.
As for the case, no evidence against Chewy was ever shown. Then you had the witness, who I fail to remember his name but was in line for a football scholarship to Wisconsin, made the statement that he told the accuser not to go into the bathroom, but she smiled and went in anyway. The DA's office threatened to have the witnesss hauled out of school in handcuffs if he didn't change his statement. The witness changed the statement, but then went back to his original statement. Also, there was a second witness, who did not drink at the party, who claims that the accuser said to her "nothing happened" Then you had the stories of the clique she belonged to which harmed her credability becuase it showed her not to be the "innocent girl" she claimed she was. It was also reported that she hated Chmura long before she made the accusation. She had very little credability by the time the trail started. She destroyed any credability she had left with her testimony by calling Chmura a "sick fuck" and that "she hated his guts".
By the time the jury was handed the case, the prosecutor had nothing and on top of it had been shown to be engaged in misconduct. All the DA was "he said, she said" and he tried the case anyway. As the jurors would say after the trail, there was more evidence against her than against Chmura.

[cpk1994]

MJS did a very good job covering it and you could easily see that the case really shouldn't have been tried in the first place. I guarantee if it had been Joe Schmo on the street, that case never would have been tried in the first place.

Please provide some links to this coverage. I read it daily and recall it was very close to Chmura being convicted. I do not remember the coverage making the case that the charges should not have been brought, though in the end the lack of any physical trauma hurt the girl's case. That and the fact that she waited to report. But neither of these facts are necessarily inconsistent with rape.

And the other poster who claims the story was made up to cover for a potential reputation problem ought to cough up some facts of their own to justify that brand of stupidity.

PB!


I'll go on record saying I don't care if he was convicted or not. He is a loser for having any type of sexual contact with a minor.

Of course you hava proof. The DA couldn't find any. What do you know that the DA didn't? My guess what you have is made up BS.