Next years free agents

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Thanks....

I can no longer be a NIck Collins stalker. I have to move on with my life and become my own poster.

I'm hoping your new name is Greg Jennings and everyone is on his band wagon by the end of training camp.

[RashanGary]

I should change my name to Greg Jennings. I think he's going to be GREAT. Not Randy Moss great, but Antonio Freeman great.

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Well, according to the rules you have 57 more hours left to change, or you cannot change names again for a significant period of time.

[RashanGary]

Oh no...I better change it then.

GregJennings will do. If you would change it for me that would be GREAT!!

[MJZiggy]

If (God forbid) he bombs, you're gonna be a hurtin' camper by the end of the season...

[RashanGary]

I'm willing to risk whatever forum reputation I have on Greg Jennings. I think he's a stud.

[MadtownPacker]

I agree, sign me up for the Jennings fan club.

800yds, 6 TDs in 2006

[HarveyWallbangers]

Besides the running backs, Colin Cole, Rob Davis, Scott Wells and Cullen Jenkins are others who will be starters or major contributors whose contracts expire after 2006.

Other possible contributors in their last years include Rod Gardner, Kendrick Allen and Donald Lee.

Rob Davis a major contributor? He's been a decent long-snapper, but calling him a major contributor is a bit steep.

He was talking about projected/likely starters. I don't think Lee (only if Franks gets hurt) and Allen are likely starters. Gardner, Wells and either Cole or Jenkins could be. Gardner will be an UFA next year. Are the other three UFAs?

[Patler]

Besides the running backs, Colin Cole, Rob Davis, Scott Wells and Cullen Jenkins are others who will be starters or major contributors whose contracts expire after 2006.

Other possible contributors in their last years include Rod Gardner, Kendrick Allen and Donald Lee.

Rob Davis a major contributor? He's been a decent long-snapper, but calling him a major contributor is a bit steep.

He was talking about projected/likely starters. I don't think Lee (only if Franks gets hurt) and Allen are likely starters. Gardner, Wells and either Cole or Jenkins could be. Gardner will be an UFA next year. Are the other three UFAs?

If you note, I included Gardner, Lee and Allen as "possible contributors".

Rob Davis is one of the two or three critical players on 8-10 plays every game. Packer fans are spoiled because Davis is so good. Even among the longsnappers, he is considered one of the best in the business, especially for his velocity on snaps to the punter.

As I said, longsnappers just get no respect!

[Oscar]

I think special team players as a group go underappreciated. We mention a kicker when he makes a game winning kick. We talk alot abouta kicker when he misses one. It all starts with the snap.. Wether its a punt or extra point. I think special teams are gonna be the difference between a 6 and 10 or a 10 and 6 record this season...Ok.. maby not..

[HarveyWallbangers]

If you note, I included Gardner, Lee and Allen as "possible contributors".

Rob Davis is one of the two or three critical players on 8-10 plays every game. Packer fans are spoiled because Davis is so good. Even among the longsnappers, he is considered one of the best in the business, especially for his velocity on snaps to the punter.

As I said, longsnappers just get no respect!

Personally, I think you are getting carried away. The guy was talking about starters for this year, and you went off on a tangent about other guys--many who aren't starters, and most that are nominal starters. His point is valid. Maybe there will be two or three borderline starters instead of the one he listed, but the Packers are in good shape next year. They aren't going to be losing any long-time studs like Mike Wahle, Darren Sharper, or Marco Rivera via UFA.

You can continue to try to bring down his argument by talking about some relatively meaningless players, but personally I think you should apologize to him. It's not your best effort.


Be careful, PaCkFan_n_MD! Shamler can be a real thorn in the ass.


Are Wells, Jenkins, and Cole unrestricted FAs?

[Patler]

If you note, I included Gardner, Lee and Allen as "possible contributors".

Rob Davis is one of the two or three critical players on 8-10 plays every game. Packer fans are spoiled because Davis is so good. Even among the longsnappers, he is considered one of the best in the business, especially for his velocity on snaps to the punter.

As I said, longsnappers just get no respect!

Personally, I think you are getting carried away. The guy was talking about starters for this year, and you went off on a tangent about other guys--many who aren't starters, and most that are nominal starters. His point is valid. Maybe there will be two or three borderline starters instead of the one he listed, but the Packers are in good shape next year. They aren't going to be losing any long-time studs like Mike Wahle, Darren Sharper, or Marco Rivera via UFA.

You can continue to try to bring down his argument by talking about some relatively meaningless players, but personally I think you should apologize to him. It's not your best effort.


Be careful, PaCkFan_n_MD! Shamler can be a real thorn in the ass.


Are Wells, Jenkins, and Cole unrestricted FAs?

Geez, harvey, did you even read my posts? I AGREED with him and the point he was making.

He mentioned Taylor as the only starter who would be a free agent. Someone else brought up that Green and Davenport would be too. All I said in my first post was this:

"Besides the running backs, Colin Cole, Rob Davis, Scott Wells and Cullen Jenkins are others who will be starters or major contributors whose contracts expire after 2006.

Other possible contributors in their last years include Rod Gardner, Kendrick Allen and Donald Lee."

That's all I said. I was not arguing with him anynore than Pack0514 was in mentioning Green, Davenport and Gado.

As I said in reply to the originator of this thread:

"You pointed out the possibility of Taylor, I just wanted everyone to know that he isn't the only likely starter to be that is in his last year on his contract. Wells, Gardner and one of Cole, Jenkins or Allen are all possible starters, just like Taylor, whom you did mentioned. Actually, Wells is a returning starter, but not at the position he started for the second half of last year.

"But, the Packers are in decent shape. Unless someone really steps forward, none of the players is a real key resigning. Wells or one of the DTs is probably the most likely to be #1 on the list for getting re-signed. I like Taylor, but I suspect he is looked on as only a temporary starter at LB. Hopefully, we are both wrong and at the end of 2006 everyone will be complaining about all the great FAs the Packers have to work in under the 2007 cap. That would be a very good development!"

What is wrong with that? He wasn't talking about studs, because after all he mentioned "only" Taylor. Taylor has never started for GB, Wells has.

As far as Davis and rspect for longsnappers, that was just for fun.

It appears to me you really didn't read what I wrote and in response to what. However, you are the 4th person in the last three weeks who has found it necessary to call me names simply for posting information, so I no longer will. It sure seems to rub people the wrong way when I do, and it really is not my intention or desire to aggravate anyone.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

Yes apologize to me immediately……â₠¬Â¦Ã¢â‚¬Â¦Ã¢â‚¬Â¦..just kidding.



Harvey got what I was trying to say in that we well not be losing anyone of note or young stars after this year. I was really just trying to start a topic that everyone can talk about and that would give optimism for the future.

I guess shamrockfan is right in that I should not have mentioned Talor because that opened the door for what he saying about wells, Jenkins and Cole. Although am not sure if I agree with bring up Grander, Allen, and Rob Davis because I thought the point of my post was pretty clear.

[Schuhc14]

I could be wrong, but I think Colin Cole, Scott Wells and Cullen Jenkins are all RFA, meaning we will get them back for one year fairly cheap.

Like when we got KGB and Diggs back "fairly cheap" when they were RFAs?

Hopefully TT will not make the mistakes handling RFAs that Sherman did.

That was Sherman’s fault. If KGB had signed with anyone else (Eagles) we would have gotten their first round draft pick and saved a boat load of cap space since we gave Gbaja-Biamila the first-round tender offer worth $1.35 million. So what I mean by next year when I said we'll get them "fairly cheap" is at most we give them the first round tender (now 1.4 Mil). If anyone signs them to a bigger contract (highly unlikely) I would gladly take a 1st round draft pick and saved cap space for either Cole, Jenkins, or Wells. Bottom line, at most Cole, Jenkins, or Wells will cost us 1.4 M next year or we get a first round pick if they sign a bigger contract with another team. I figure that as "fairly cheap".

P.S. I think Samkon, Donald Lee, Leach, Horton, Chris White, and Noah Herron, are all also RFA's.

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I would just lock 'em up longterm before they have a big year. Keep em for 6 years at 1.5 mil per