OTA Notes

[cheesner]

Sitton is the one guy they haven't moved around and he is probably the example someone used in the org to point out that versatility on the OLine might be coming at the expense of reps and game day readiness. I hope he can start, as it seems clear he has the ability to upgrade the talent and size of our O Line.

I still think Harrell has a chance, but I won't believe he is ready until we see him practice. At this point I think the org is tired of taking hits and may be trying to protect itself and him with complimentary reports. Didn't we find out last week he is NOT in the offseason program?

Cliffy can probably go one more year and we have Colledge in an emergency, so Meredith has some time. I am close to certain that Colledge would be a poorer LT than LG, but he can buy us time. But RT is the big question mark. Hopefully someone comes along ready to go.

The quote on Harrell said that the injured players were all being limited in what they are doing. It did not single out Harrell and say how limited he was. From the other quotes that Harrell was doing a lot of smiling and feeling great - I would bet he is not very limited. I am very optimistic about his recovery. If it was a reoccuring knee issue, I would be more concerned, but it was a bicep tear in college and then the back issue as a Packer. The 2nd problem was an error in the operation. So it is not like it is a continuous chronic issue. If he puts things together our defensive line will tremendous and our defense will be dominating.

I disagree with you on Colledge. I think he will be a better T than an G. He is very athletic and will be a big boost to our run game over Clifton. I like the strong mauler types for G, like Sitton or Lang. Personally, I think we need to put Colledge in at LT now, Clifton (unless he returns to form) was our worst OL last season.

[cheesner]

These "notes" made me realize that the OLine is unstable right now, but we got some pretty good guys on board.

Isn't this a nice change? A few years ago the question was 'Who are we going to start on the OL?' because there were lots of questions and no good options at both guard positions and center.

The question hasn't changed, we are still asking 'Who are we going to start on the OL?" But now the reason we are asking is because there are a bunch of good options.

[Waldo]

I know a lot of "packer fans" would hate to see JH turn it around and play well. That would be disastorous pie in the face kinda stuff.

As for the rest....its TC, nothing they say matters much.

The common crow would immediately be placed on the endangered species list after being hunted to near extinction by hordes of Packer fans looking for something to eat.

[RashanGary]

I understand the optimism over Lang, but he is a rookie. The line is a tough spot to play as a rookie. I think our vets are going to have a huge leg up over the rooks.

I'm really hoping Barbre steps up. If not Barbre, I'd be happy with Giacomini turning out too. Barbre going into his third year though, this should be his time if he's going to cut it. He's a hell of an athlete. Hopefully he gets it and becomes a mauler in there for us.

[Administrator]

I know a lot of "packer fans" would hate to see JH turn it around and play well. That would be disastorous pie in the face kinda stuff.

As for the rest....its TC, nothing they say matters much.

The common crow would immediately be placed on the endangered species list after being hunted to near extinction by hordes of Packer fans looking for something to eat.

Very witty and sadly, probably accurate.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I find this trend to be disturbing...pig, jamon...attempts to get porkchop womack in the past.

Clearly the GB brass isn't concerned about jews or muslim fans.

[rbaloha1]

I understand the optimism over Lang, but he is a rookie. The line is a tough spot to play as a rookie. I think our vets are going to have a huge leg up over the rooks.

The Packers have a history of rookie linemen starting -- Adam Timmerman, Aaron Taylor, Mark Tauscher, Chad Cliffton, Jason Spitz, Daryn Colledge, Tony Moll and Josh Sitton (scheduled starter).

If Lang is legit he starts at rt.

[rbaloha1]

I disagree with you on Colledge. I think he will be a better T than an G. He is very athletic and will be a big boost to our run game over Clifton. I like the strong mauler types for G, like Sitton or Lang. Personally, I think we need to put Colledge in at LT now, Clifton (unless he returns to form) was our worst OL last season.

Agreed. This has been beaten to death already. Colledge was an outstanding left tackle at Boise State. Excellent footwork and strong hands compensate for the lack of NFL left tackle size.

Everytime Colledge moves to left tackle one can see the comfort level. If Clifton succumbs to injuries Jamon should be given the first shot with a short leash. In the event Jamon fails then permanently move Colledge.

[Fritz]

I find this trend to be disturbing...pig, jamon...attempts to get porkchop womack in the past.

Clearly the GB brass isn't concerned about jews or muslim fans.

And if they indeed sign "Gluten" Jones out of the University of Southwestern Rhode Island, they will lose all their allergic fans as well.

I personally am rooting for Barbre, but only if he moves to a city named Seville

[Cleft Crusty]

I find this trend to be disturbing...pig, jamon...attempts to get porkchop womack in the past.

Clearly the GB brass isn't concerned about jews or muslim fans.

How soon Packer fans forget about Buckets Goldenberg. I can see him playing in my mind's eye like it's yesterday.

[KYPack]

I find this trend to be disturbing...pig, jamon...attempts to get porkchop womack in the past.

Clearly the GB brass isn't concerned about jews or muslim fans.

How soon Packer fans forget about Buckets Goldenberg. I can see him playing in my mind's eye like it's yesterday.

We've had a Jew since 'Ol Buckets, haven't we?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I find this trend to be disturbing...pig, jamon...attempts to get porkchop womack in the past.

Clearly the GB brass isn't concerned about jews or muslim fans.

And if they indeed sign "Gluten" Jones out of the University of Southwestern Rhode Island, they will lose all their allergic fans as well.

I personally am rooting for Barbre, but only if he moves to a city named Seville

I thought he was going to tutor me for the LSAT.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I find this trend to be disturbing...pig, jamon...attempts to get porkchop womack in the past.

Clearly the GB brass isn't concerned about jews or muslim fans.

How soon Packer fans forget about Buckets Goldenberg. I can see him playing in my mind's eye like it's yesterday.

We try to forget...he brought shame upon his family.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

I find this trend to be disturbing...pig, jamon...attempts to get porkchop womack in the past.

Clearly the GB brass isn't concerned about jews or muslim fans.

How soon Packer fans forget about Buckets Goldenberg. I can see him playing in my mind's eye like it's yesterday.

We've had a Jew since 'Ol Buckets, haven't we?

Yes. The pack traditionally mine the jews for line talent.

Alan Veingrad.

Ty suspects TT hates Jews...the real reason Olshansky wasn't signed.

[pbmax]

I disagree with you on Colledge. I think he will be a better T than an G. He is very athletic and will be a big boost to our run game over Clifton. I like the strong mauler types for G, like Sitton or Lang. Personally, I think we need to put Colledge in at LT now, Clifton (unless he returns to form) was our worst OL last season.

Agreed. This has been beaten to death already. Colledge was an outstanding left tackle at Boise State. Excellent footwork and strong hands compensate for the lack of NFL left tackle size.

Everytime Colledge moves to left tackle one can see the comfort level. If Clifton succumbs to injuries Jamon should be given the first shot with a short leash. In the event Jamon fails then permanently move Colledge.

Colledge's arms are short for an elite LT and he can be had in pass protection. That resume gets your starting slot put on the NEEDS list of every team. I don't think he will be a starter long in the NFL at Left Tackle. He could fill in on an emergency basis, and he might actually be the gameday backup this year, but he is not a long term solution at LT.