Barnett's opinion if Favre goes to MINN

[MOBB DEEP]

This is my take on the Favre situation. If there is a team that wants him to play quarterback and he still wants to play ball why shouldn't he? The Packers do not want Favre anymore, we have no claim on him, he is no longer a Packer, he is just another NFL player, love him or hate him, your opinion of him should change simply because he has on another uniform even if it is purple.

good stuff dn

[Deputy Nutz]

This is my take on the Favre situation. If there is a team that wants him to play quarterback and he still wants to play ball why shouldn't he? The Packers do not want Favre anymore, we have no claim on him, he is no longer a Packer, he is just another NFL player, love him or hate him, your opinion of him shouldn't change simply because he has on another uniform even if it is purple.

Regardless of motive. If he is motivated to stick it to Thompson, and he is willing to come in for all OTAs and camps, then I think the Vikings landed a lunker. If Favre half asses it in getting ready for the season then the Vikings should go with Sage.

I am a Packer fan, true, but it still doesn't mean I have to be a Kool aid drinking follower of the organization and force myself to agree with every decision that the organization makes. Again this has nothing to do with the Packers anymore, if Favre stinks as bad as all of you claim then where is the problem? Suddenly our front seven is as bad ass as the Steelers and the Patriots combined with all the talk of these guys crushing Brett Favre. Laughable, kool aid drinking fools. Reality please, reality. A poor defense in 2008, especially in the front seven making a dramatic change on defense in 2009 is all of a sudden going to crush the Vikings offensive line, one of the better lines in football I might add.

[KYPack]

I think there is one detail that has been overlooked: in the reports, MN wants Favre to participate fully in the minicamps, be the guy right away.

I seriously doubt that Favre's arm is good-to-go now. He probably needs to take May and June off for additional recovery period. I think that issue alone is likely a deal breaker. My intitial reaction to all this was that Favre was going to play - starting with late July training camp. But now I'm thinking he is unlikely to return.


Wait a sec...... He can go on Gretta Van Sustern in August and claim that Childress tricked him. Shed a few tears, talk about how MN seemed like home to him when he visited. IT just might work.

I see this one differently, Blue Dog/former U-M and GBP running back: I see the surgery as the very thing that'll get Favre out of full participation in mini-camps. My guess would be that he could argue convincingly that the surgery is a necessity if he's going to play again, but sure, he can come up for some of the mini-camp stuff - the classroom stuff.

That way, both sides claim victory. Favre gets more time off in the offseason than most players, the Vikings can look "tough" - see, we made him come into minicamps.

This is, of course, rampant speculation. But I'm bored.

The only deal there is, Brett hates both surgery and "mini-camps". (The term "mini-camp" is now defunct, eh?)

[MOBB DEEP]

so no barnett talk? for what its worth i think he's a wanabe tough guy

i wish pack would draft cats with more of an edge like studs from the U

[bobblehead]

It's not what he could do or couldn't do. It's what he wants to do. It's his intent. Even if it's just part of his decision, it's part of his decision. Many of us take issue with that.

Are you 100% sure you know his intent?

When he said he wanted to come back for the wrong reasons - within the division, so he could stick it to the Packers, I tend to believe this:

He wants to come back for the wrong reasons, within the division so he can stick it to the Packers.

I think you are reading WAY too much into his words....

[RashanGary]

Regardless of motive. If he is motivated to stick it to Thompson, and he is willing to come in for all OTAs and camps, then I think the Vikings landed a lunker. If Favre half asses it in getting ready for the season then the Vikings should go with Sage.

I am a Packer fan, true, but it still doesn't mean I have to be a Kool aid drinking follower of the organization and force myself to agree with every decision that the organization makes. Again this has nothing to do with the Packers anymore, if Favre stinks as bad as all of you claim then where is the problem? Suddenly our front seven is as bad ass as the Steelers and the Patriots combined with all the talk of these guys crushing Brett Favre. Laughable, kool aid drinking fools. Reality please, reality. A poor defense in 2008, especially in the front seven making a dramatic change on defense in 2009 is all of a sudden going to crush the Vikings offensive line, one of the better lines in football I might add.

Boo. Go follow the Vikings, chump.

[HarveyWallbangers]

DP

[HarveyWallbangers]

Suddenly our front seven is as bad ass as the Steelers and the Patriots combined with all the talk of these guys crushing Brett Favre. Laughable, kool aid drinking fools. Reality please, reality. A poor defense in 2008, especially in the front seven making a dramatic change on defense in 2009 is all of a sudden going to crush the Vikings offensive line, one of the better lines in football I might add.

I could see the front seven being a strength. As good as the Steelers and Patriots? Unlikely. But adding Capers, Raji, and Matthews (maybe even Kevin Carter) should help. Having full health from Jenkins, Pickett, Hawk, and Barnett would help also. I don't think that's kool-aid drinking. The front 7 with Kampman, Pickett, Williams, Jenkins, DL depth, Hawk, Barnett, and Poppinga was solid. This front 7 with the scheme change has the potential to be better. AP is awesome, but I don't buy that the Vikings have this great OL. Hutchinson is great. McKinnie is overrated by solid. They have an average RG in Herrera, a first year starter at C, and a rookie at RT.

[Gunakor]

It's not what he could do or couldn't do. It's what he wants to do. It's his intent. Even if it's just part of his decision, it's part of his decision. Many of us take issue with that.

Are you 100% sure you know his intent?

When he said he wanted to come back for the wrong reasons - within the division, so he could stick it to the Packers, I tend to believe this:

He wants to come back for the wrong reasons, within the division so he can stick it to the Packers.

I think you are reading WAY too much into his words....

I interpreted his words the same way. How would you interpret this statement?

[SnakeLH2006]

Snakes quote of the night:

Fuck a Twitter (aka meaningless babble shit...most worthless Internet add-on/invention EVER).

I don't care what cereal you are eating!!!

[cpk1994]

This is my take on the Favre situation. If there is a team that wants him to play quarterback and he still wants to play ball why shouldn't he? The Packers do not want Favre anymore, we have no claim on him, he is no longer a Packer, he is just another NFL player, love him or hate him, your opinion of him shouldn't change simply because he has on another uniform even if it is purple.

Regardless of motive. If he is motivated to stick it to Thompson, and he is willing to come in for all OTAs and camps, then I think the Vikings landed a lunker. If Favre half asses it in getting ready for the season then the Vikings should go with Sage.

I am a Packer fan, true, but it still doesn't mean I have to be a Kool aid drinking follower of the organization and force myself to agree with every decision that the organization makes. Again this has nothing to do with the Packers anymore, if Favre stinks as bad as all of you claim then where is the problem? Suddenly our front seven is as bad ass as the Steelers and the Patriots combined with all the talk of these guys crushing Brett Favre. Laughable, kool aid drinking fools. Reality please, reality. A poor defense in 2008, especially in the front seven making a dramatic change on defense in 2009 is all of a sudden going to crush the Vikings offensive line, one of the better lines in football I might add.

The Packers last year were one Crosby missed FG from sweeping the Vikes with Sanders at the helm of the D. Also remember Lard ass twins and their possibe suspensions. That OL? The Packers handled it fine last year also. There is ample reason to believe the Packers will beat them, even if they have Favre.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

It's not what he could do or couldn't do. It's what he wants to do. It's his intent. Even if it's just part of his decision, it's part of his decision. Many of us take issue with that.

Are you 100% sure you know his intent?

When he said he wanted to come back for the wrong reasons - within the division, so he could stick it to the Packers, I tend to believe this:

He wants to come back for the wrong reasons, within the division so he can stick it to the Packers.

I think you are reading WAY too much into his words....

I see. Now you are doing nuance.

What happened to the Bobble we all know? The bobble that took what people said at face value.

[Merlin]

This is my take on the Favre situation. If there is a team that wants him to play quarterback and he still wants to play ball why shouldn't he? The Packers do not want Favre anymore, we have no claim on him, he is no longer a Packer, he is just another NFL player, love him or hate him, your opinion of him should change simply because he has on another uniform even if it is purple.

I agree. I already watch most of the NFC North games so my time watching the NFL would decrease if he was in the NFC North again. Not so sure I would buy a jersey or not, I have said before that I would buy a red practice one that had the Vikings logo on it, because I hate the Vikings Uni's.

The bitterness of some people here is amazing. And since Favre is so hated and everyone hates all of the drama he supposedly brings, then why are there so many threads and posts about the guy? Favre hasn't been a Packer for a full season now and there are still more posts about him then any other single player. He isn't "controversial", much of the "soap opera" stuff is media generated, I mean really the guy can't go buy a gallon of milk without someone reporting on it: "Today, Favre bought 2% milk, this means he will not be coming back to the NFL." or "Today, Favre bought skim milk which could be an indication he is getting his body in shape to make yet a another comeback". Also, every true sports fan can find a bunch of players on different teams they like, no matter what team they are on: Walter Payton was a Bear, Barry Sanders was a Lion, Adrian Peterson is a Viking, and I am sure EVERYONE who would hate Favre if he played for the Vikings, also hates all of those "other" players too, and players on every other team the Packers play.

Unreal, leave the guy be, if he wants to play then that's his choice, at least until Obama nationalizes the NFL.

[Bossman641]

This is my take on the Favre situation. If there is a team that wants him to play quarterback and he still wants to play ball why shouldn't he? The Packers do not want Favre anymore, we have no claim on him, he is no longer a Packer, he is just another NFL player, love him or hate him, your opinion of him should change simply because he has on another uniform even if it is purple.

I agree. I already watch most of the NFC North games so my time watching the NFL would decrease if he was in the NFC North again. Not so sure I would buy a jersey or not, I have said before that I would buy a red practice one that had the Vikings logo on it, because I hate the Vikings Uni's.

The bitterness of some people here is amazing. And since Favre is so hated and everyone hates all of the drama he supposedly brings, then why are there so many threads and posts about the guy? Favre hasn't been a Packer for a full season now and there are still more posts about him then any other single player. He isn't "controversial", much of the "soap opera" stuff is media generated, I mean really the guy can't go buy a gallon of milk without someone reporting on it: "Today, Favre bought 2% milk, this means he will not be coming back to the NFL." or "Today, Favre bought skim milk which could be an indication he is getting his body in shape to make yet a another comeback". Also, every true sports fan can find a bunch of players on different teams they like, no matter what team they are on: Walter Payton was a Bear, Barry Sanders was a Lion, Adrian Peterson is a Viking, and I am sure EVERYONE who would hate Favre if he played for the Vikings, also hates all of those "other" players too, and players on every other team the Packers play.

Unreal, leave the guy be, if he wants to play then that's his choice, at least until Obama nationalizes the NFL.

Spare me the BS about the media creating these stories and Favre being a helpless victim of circumstance. If he wanted to end the speculation and soap opera, he would come out and speak or actually say what he is planning to do and not lie about it. He eats this stuff up. Why do you think he let everyone around him do the talking last offseason while he stayed silent?

[cheesner]

This is my take on the Favre situation. If there is a team that wants him to play quarterback and he still wants to play ball why shouldn't he? The Packers do not want Favre anymore, we have no claim on him, he is no longer a Packer, he is just another NFL player, love him or hate him, your opinion of him should change simply because he has on another uniform even if it is purple.

I agree. I already watch most of the NFC North games so my time watching the NFL would decrease if he was in the NFC North again. Not so sure I would buy a jersey or not, I have said before that I would buy a red practice one that had the Vikings logo on it, because I hate the Vikings Uni's.

The bitterness of some people here is amazing. And since Favre is so hated and everyone hates all of the drama he supposedly brings, then why are there so many threads and posts about the guy? Favre hasn't been a Packer for a full season now and there are still more posts about him then any other single player. He isn't "controversial", much of the "soap opera" stuff is media generated, I mean really the guy can't go buy a gallon of milk without someone reporting on it: "Today, Favre bought 2% milk, this means he will not be coming back to the NFL." or "Today, Favre bought skim milk which could be an indication he is getting his body in shape to make yet a another comeback". Also, every true sports fan can find a bunch of players on different teams they like, no matter what team they are on: Walter Payton was a Bear, Barry Sanders was a Lion, Adrian Peterson is a Viking, and I am sure EVERYONE who would hate Favre if he played for the Vikings, also hates all of those "other" players too, and players on every other team the Packers play.

Unreal, leave the guy be, if he wants to play then that's his choice, at least until Obama nationalizes the NFL.

Hate is such a nasty word.

"Don't give a shit" would be a far better description. I didn't care about Sanders, Payton, or currently Peterson while they played. I never cheered for any of them, they were opponents of the team I rooted for. Only after they retired I could look back on their careers and appreciate/respect their play.

As far as Favre goes, he brings this shit on himself. If he wouldn't speak with all sorts of legal Clintonesque loopholes, if he hadn't changed his mind a hundred times, if he hadn't drug out his decision making every season for months on end, if he wouldn't . . . then there wouldn't be all this media attention and speculation.