OFFICIAL Official Thread

[cpk1994]

Jim Tunney could snap Hoculi in half by just signaling for a TV timeout.

Jerry Seeman was a great ref but he always had a weird half smile when signaling for a good attempt at a FG.

And there was never a better call than "giving him the business down here" by Ben Dreith.

I loved Seeman. Mentioning him reminided me of one that I miss, Dick Hantak. Why? "FIRST DOWWWWWWWWN".

How about Red Cashen?

Maybe it was Red! I think I get these two mixed up.

[PackerPro42]

this is my favorite ref...

http://www.ask.com/bar?q=who+was+the+ref+who+tackled+the+player&page=1&qsrc=0&ab=0&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DdcdWdBgUBqw

[KYPack]

Ayn, I used to be a catcher in the old days. There used to be an umpire in our league who got sore feet around the 5th inning and called anything close to the plate a strike from that point on so he could go home and soak them. No lie.

I don't know. Maybe it was Palazzo's brother.

I used to Ump games, and I felt the same way as the guy you describe. I pretty much needed Tylenol with codeine just to make it to the fifth inning - at least until I got my hips and knees replaced. I also called people out on the second strike. Managers would complain, but I would just tell them it wasn't my problem they couldn't count to three.

In college, you could get a pittance for umping intra-mural softball games. A pittance was pretty good dough for me and I did it for a couple years. One guy behind the plate, one guy at first.

I was umping first for two female teams. On a bang bang play at first, I called the runner out. There was a ferocious argument from BOTH teams. Everybody was yelling at me, as I insisted I had made the proper call. My umping partner pulled me aside to inform me that I had made two calls at once. Although I had yelled "out', I had made the safe signal with my arms.

If you are the kind of person that bitches at officials and their calls, go ump or referee a game. It's a helluva lot harder than it looks.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I remember Jerry Markbreit now. Yeah, he was good. In Wikipedia it said he was the official who ejected Charles Martin for "stuffing" Jim McMahon into the turf. A classic (and classically stupid) Packer moment.

The thing about it is, it's hard to remember good refs just because the good one's stay out of the limelight. It's easy to remember bad ones -- at least their person, maybe not their name.

I remember the NBA ref who officiated during the Buck's Kareem Jabbar era. Just can't remember his name. The guy was short and missed as many calls as he made. Eddie Doucette used to ride his butt constantly during broadcasts. The guy was a stumblebum.

But I also agree the officiating is a difficult profession. It takes a special kind of person to do it and do it right. Not only do you have to be fair with good eyes. You got to be in shape -- at least in basketball and football. Baseball is another matter.

[Maxie the Taxi]

He lost control of that Denver-SD game.

I thought he was pretty well respected prior to that game. Have there been other issues?

I think he's still one of the best. The problem w/Denver soiled his reputation a bit is all. Still, he's a lawyer. That's the worst knock on him.

[cpk1994]

I remember Jerry Markbreit now. Yeah, he was good. In Wikipedia it said he was the official who ejected Charles Martin for "stuffing" Jim McMahon into the turf. A classic (and classically stupid) Packer moment.

The thing about it is, it's hard to remember good refs just because the good one's stay out of the limelight. It's easy to remember bad ones -- at least their person, maybe not their name.

I remember the NBA ref who officiated during the Buck's Kareem Jabbar era. Just can't remember his name. The guy was short and missed as many calls as he made. Eddie Doucette used to ride his butt constantly during broadcasts. The guy was a stumblebum.

But I also agree the officiating is a difficult profession. It takes a special kind of person to do it and do it right. Not only do you have to be fair with good eyes. You got to be in shape -- at least in basketball and football. Baseball is another matter.

YOu're not kidding about baseball. They employed Eric Gregg, may he rest in peace, for crying out loud.

[Maxie the Taxi]

Ayn, I used to be a catcher in the old days. There used to be an umpire in our league who got sore feet around the 5th inning and called anything close to the plate a strike from that point on so he could go home and soak them. No lie.

I don't know. Maybe it was Palazzo's brother.

I used to Ump games, and I felt the same way as the guy you describe. I pretty much needed Tylenol with codeine just to make it to the fifth inning - at least until I got my hips and knees replaced. I also called people out on the second strike. Managers would complain, but I would just tell them it wasn't my problem they couldn't count to three.

Cleft, you kill me!!!

By the way, isn't it about time you held a press conference or two. Maybe in prime time. Compete with Obama.

[Maxie the Taxi]

I remember Jerry Markbreit now. Yeah, he was good. In Wikipedia it said he was the official who ejected Charles Martin for "stuffing" Jim McMahon into the turf. A classic (and classically stupid) Packer moment.

The thing about it is, it's hard to remember good refs just because the good one's stay out of the limelight. It's easy to remember bad ones -- at least their person, maybe not their name.

I remember the NBA ref who officiated during the Buck's Kareem Jabbar era. Just can't remember his name. The guy was short and missed as many calls as he made. Eddie Doucette used to ride his butt constantly during broadcasts. The guy was a stumblebum.

But I also agree the officiating is a difficult profession. It takes a special kind of person to do it and do it right. Not only do you have to be fair with good eyes. You got to be in shape -- at least in basketball and football. Baseball is another matter.

YOu're not kidding about baseball. They employed Eric Gregg, may he rest in peace, for crying out loud.

Back in the late 60's, early 70's one of my good friends was a MLB umpire. He got fired for being overweight, at least that was the league's side of the story.