Breaking News on Brett Favre!

[falco]

Oh come on, don't tell me they didnt know it was always a possibility of happening. They were 12 million under the cap and coulda make moves if they chose to. They didnt, and Favre got what he wanted, his release so he can "stick it" to TT, thats all.

Of course they knew it was a possibility, but what could they do? If they didn't draft Sanchez or come up with another QB, they go into the season with nothing. This was a clear play by Favre who had the upper hand. I wouldn't be surprised if the Jets knew all along - but were helpless to do anything.

I'm just saying, it shows no commitment to his teammates on the Jets (most of whom did not think very highly of him anyway, if you recall).

[falco]

...

Dude, just shut up. Discuss the topic at hand or be quiet.

[cpk1994]

The reason I think Favre sucks is that he totally shafted his teammates on the Jets. As opposed to last year, when he wanted to come back and play for the packers but we clearly didn't want him, its obvious he weaseled his way off the team this year. And that speaks volumes about his character.

How did he "weasel" his way off the team? He asked for his release, and they granted it to him. Now he's not even sure if he's coming back and hes a bad guy for listening to offers? The Jets had EVERY right to hold onto him if they wanted him as their QB, backup or starter, but they chose to release him, rather than to pay 13 million to him if he decided to come back.

By retiring, forcing them to draft a QB of the future, and then asking for his release when he knew they couldn't afford to bring him back.

Oh come on, don't tell me they didnt know it was always a possibility of happening. They were 12 million under the cap and coulda make moves if they chose to. They didnt, and Favre got what he wanted, his release so he can "stick it" to TT, thats all.

You do realize they have to sign their rookies don't you? That 12 million dollars? Poof!

[cpk1994]

...

Dude, just shut up. Discuss the topic at hand or be quiet.

Pete gave me a question and I answered. Its not my fault he lacks reading comprehension.

[Joemailman]

The reason I think Favre sucks is that he totally shafted his teammates on the Jets. As opposed to last year, when he wanted to come back and play for the packers but we clearly didn't want him, its obvious he weaseled his way off the team this year. And that speaks volumes about his character.

How did he "weasel" his way off the team? He asked for his release, and they granted it to him. Now he's not even sure if he's coming back and hes a bad guy for listening to offers? The Jets had EVERY right to hold onto him if they wanted him as their QB, backup or starter, but they chose to release him, rather than to pay 13 million to him if he decided to come back.

By retiring, forcing them to draft a QB of the future, and then asking for his release when he knew they couldn't afford to bring him back.

Actually, shortly before Favre announced Retirement II, the talk was that Rex Ryan didn't want Favre back. Understandable that a rookie coach wouldn't want to go with a 39 year old QB with a bad shoulder. I suspect Favre felt that leaving on his own was better than unceremoniously being shown the door. I don't think he weaseled out of anything.

[falco]

Pete gave me a question and I answered. Its not my fault he lacks reading comprehension.

Both of you then - let's discuss a topic without all the stupid side bantering.

[Administrator]

cpk, let me give this a try. 4 people tried to tell you that you were out of line. You ignorned, or argued with all of them.

Asking for a source was fine. Not believing Pete was fine. The way you approached it was not fine. In your first post, you name called. Your post dripped with sarcasm. The fact that you couldn't find the information, didn't make it untrue.

Your sarcasm put you out of line. You should apologize. It is that simple.

thanks to Bretsky, PBMax, Falco, Scott Campbell, and anyone I might have missed. Consistent, kind pressure really does stop most of this. I appreciate your efforts very much.

[Bretsky]

How am I trolling? I posted something that broke live on ESPN for everyone to read. Yes, it was another Favre thread but hell theres already 13 other ones that didnt matter, I figured this one was actually credible. Why do you have to be such a dick to people? Honestly... stop and act civil. I'm not even taking a side with Favre or TT and youre still attacking me...and now Bretsky who seems to be a pretty cool person.. it makes zero sense.. so I'll ask again, stop please? Thank you.

Let me slow this down for you so your little brain can compute. Here is your original post:

Brett Favre reports of staying retired is untrue. Favre will see a doctor and if he does not need major surgery, he will most likely sign with the Vikings.


Like most said on the boards.. this thing is probably long from over.

Note that you didn't give a source. Why should I believe a random claim, and especially one from someone who is an admitted troll and one who has alos admiited to stirring up on this forum to annoy people? I asked you to either

A: Supply the source to back up your claim

B: Shut up if you don't have one.


I asked you that becuase immediatly after you posted I went to:

Espn.com
cnnsi.com
profootballtalk.com
jsonline.com
yahoo.com
cbssportsline.com
greenbaypressgazette.com

You know how many of those sites were reporting that at the time of your post? ZERO. If I can't find a single source to back up your post, why should I believe you?


As for Bretsky, I didn't attack him. I gave him the same explanation I gave you He attacked me because he saw the report and posted 4 HOURS after I asked for a source.
Do you understand now, or do I have to slow it down even further?

Kindo of funny how no media outlet is reporting this. Not even Florio. I guess what I am saying is Pete, either porovide proof or STFU troll.



Is it that hard for you to understand that tones like these are an attack ?

[falco]

Actually, shortly before Favre announced Retirement II, the talk was that Rex Ryan didn't want Favre back. Understandable that a rookie coach wouldn't want to go with a 39 year old QB with a bad shoulder. I suspect Favre felt that leaving on his own was better than unceremoniously being shown the door. I don't think he weaseled out of anything.

I don't necessary disagree with this Joe. I would guess Rex Ryan didn't want him back. But I think Favre just as much wanted out. I do believe the Jets publicly said that they wanted him back, and were just waiting for his answer (whether this way true or not).

I was actually surprised Favre retired prior to the day of reckoning (when they would have had to pay him or cut him), but I think it did his public image better to wait until they could let him go without being lambasted by their fans (i.e. when they had a new QB).

[Bretsky]

Actually, shortly before Favre announced Retirement II, the talk was that Rex Ryan didn't want Favre back. Understandable that a rookie coach wouldn't want to go with a 39 year old QB with a bad shoulder. I suspect Favre felt that leaving on his own was better than unceremoniously being shown the door. I don't think he weaseled out of anything.

I don't necessary disagree with this Joe. I would guess Rex Ryan didn't want him back. But I think Favre just as much wanted out. I do believe the Jets publicly said that they wanted him back, and were just waiting for his answer (whether this way true or not).

I was actually surprised Favre retired prior to the day of reckoning (when they would have had to pay him or cut him), but I think it did his public image better to wait until they could let him go without being lambasted by their fans (i.e. when they had a new QB).

I agree
I think the owner might have wanted him back, but the coach clearly did not
It was best for everybody to move on

[falco]

I don't hate Brett Favre. I was a big fan of his while he was here, although I got frustrated just like everybody else about his gunslinger style.

I think this whole thing exposed him as a bit (or a lot) of an egomaniac, and a little bit self absorbed. That's fine though, he's not the only athlete like that. It has changed my opinion of him as a person, although since he is just an athlete it doesn't really matter.

I am a packer fan, and football is entertainment to me. As far as I am concerned, nothing will be more entertaining than two (or even three!) Favre vs the Packers games this year.

[cpk1994]

How am I trolling? I posted something that broke live on ESPN for everyone to read. Yes, it was another Favre thread but hell theres already 13 other ones that didnt matter, I figured this one was actually credible. Why do you have to be such a dick to people? Honestly... stop and act civil. I'm not even taking a side with Favre or TT and youre still attacking me...and now Bretsky who seems to be a pretty cool person.. it makes zero sense.. so I'll ask again, stop please? Thank you.

Let me slow this down for you so your little brain can compute. Here is your original post:

Brett Favre reports of staying retired is untrue. Favre will see a doctor and if he does not need major surgery, he will most likely sign with the Vikings.


Like most said on the boards.. this thing is probably long from over.

Note that you didn't give a source. Why should I believe a random claim, and especially one from someone who is an admitted troll and one who has alos admiited to stirring up on this forum to annoy people? I asked you to either

A: Supply the source to back up your claim

B: Shut up if you don't have one.


I asked you that becuase immediatly after you posted I went to:

Espn.com
cnnsi.com
profootballtalk.com
jsonline.com
yahoo.com
cbssportsline.com
greenbaypressgazette.com

You know how many of those sites were reporting that at the time of your post? ZERO. If I can't find a single source to back up your post, why should I believe you?


As for Bretsky, I didn't attack him. I gave him the same explanation I gave you He attacked me because he saw the report and posted 4 HOURS after I asked for a source.
Do you understand now, or do I have to slow it down even further?

Kindo of funny how no media outlet is reporting this. Not even Florio. I guess what I am saying is Pete, either porovide proof or STFU troll.



Is it that hard for you to understand that tones like these are an attack ?

OK, the tone was harsh, but the request of a source was not. I don't trust him for obvious reasons. When you make a claim, especially when you aren't always trustworthy, a source is vital. That why I always provide where I got my info from. A link if one is available. I know I am not know as trustworthy so I make doubly sure back myself up.

[Administrator]

Actually, shortly before Favre announced Retirement II, the talk was that Rex Ryan didn't want Favre back. Understandable that a rookie coach wouldn't want to go with a 39 year old QB with a bad shoulder. I suspect Favre felt that leaving on his own was better than unceremoniously being shown the door. I don't think he weaseled out of anything.

I don't necessary disagree with this Joe. I would guess Rex Ryan didn't want him back. But I think Favre just as much wanted out. I do believe the Jets publicly said that they wanted him back, and were just waiting for his answer (whether this way true or not).

I was actually surprised Favre retired prior to the day of reckoning (when they would have had to pay him or cut him), but I think it did his public image better to wait until they could let him go without being lambasted by their fans (i.e. when they had a new QB).

I agree
I think the owner might have wanted him back, but the coach clearly did not
It was best for everybody to move on

I also think that the Jets could see the drama building as well. Surely they just didn't want any part of that. Favre certainly seems to attract the drama. Whether that's by choice, or not really isn't relevant.

Favre if healthy, is probably a better QB than a lot of teams have right now. But there isn't much interest, except for the Vikings. Why? I think it is the drama factor. Teams just don't need/want it.

[Deputy Nutz]

Jesus Bretsky, you sound more like a moderator now than ever.

[Joemailman]

I didn't know Bretsky's first name was Jesus.