The Packers

[cpk1994]

JH - that makes sense, I'll wait it out.

RG - There's nothing else to contribute to. There are a zillion replies but who is that? 20-30 people, max. 20% of them contributing 80% of it.

I mean, if there's nothing to talk about, there's nothing to talk about. Either way, Brett Favre doesn't have much to do with us anymore. Yeah, he could potentially play for a division rival and that could affect us, but let's face it, the conversation isn't centered around that.

Yall know I'm not against off topic, I bullshit plenty ... I'm just venting again. Was hoping someone had some news/info/links/whatnot.

I think my eye has started to involutarily twitch becuase of your avatar.

[GrnBay007]

JH - that makes sense, I'll wait it out.

RG - There's nothing else to contribute to. There are a zillion replies but who is that? 20-30 people, max. 20% of them contributing 80% of it.

I mean, if there's nothing to talk about, there's nothing to talk about. Either way, Brett Favre doesn't have much to do with us anymore. Yeah, he could potentially play for a division rival and that could affect us, but let's face it, the conversation isn't centered around that.

Yall know I'm not against off topic, I bullshit plenty ... I'm just venting again. Was hoping someone had some news/info/links/whatnot.

I think my eye has started to involutarily twitch becuase of your avatar.

Knowing how much you hate Favre, I think you had some other type of reaction.

Better go clean off your keyboard.

[cpk1994]

JH - that makes sense, I'll wait it out.

RG - There's nothing else to contribute to. There are a zillion replies but who is that? 20-30 people, max. 20% of them contributing 80% of it.

I mean, if there's nothing to talk about, there's nothing to talk about. Either way, Brett Favre doesn't have much to do with us anymore. Yeah, he could potentially play for a division rival and that could affect us, but let's face it, the conversation isn't centered around that.

Yall know I'm not against off topic, I bullshit plenty ... I'm just venting again. Was hoping someone had some news/info/links/whatnot.

I think my eye has started to involutarily twitch becuase of your avatar.

Knowing how much you hate Favre, I think you had some other type of reaction.

Better go clean off your keyboard.

Nope, its just an eye twitch. I don't get off on a display of assault of anyone.

[Partial]

JH - that makes sense, I'll wait it out.

RG - There's nothing else to contribute to. There are a zillion replies but who is that? 20-30 people, max. 20% of them contributing 80% of it.

I mean, if there's nothing to talk about, there's nothing to talk about. Either way, Brett Favre doesn't have much to do with us anymore. Yeah, he could potentially play for a division rival and that could affect us, but let's face it, the conversation isn't centered around that.

Yall know I'm not against off topic, I bullshit plenty ... I'm just venting again. Was hoping someone had some news/info/links/whatnot.

I think my eye has started to involutarily twitch becuase of your avatar.

Knowing how much you hate Favre, I think you had some other type of reaction.

Better go clean off your keyboard.

Naughty

[pbmax]

Questions: Did the Packers actually sign Carson Butler, the former U-Mich tight end? How about Oziokor or whoever he is, that linebacker from A & M?

47 Carson Butler TE 6-4 255 22 R Michigan FA-09
49 Cyril Obiozor LB 6-4 267 22 R Texas A&M FA-09

I hope he gets to keep that number. LBs in the 40s are cool, the NFL numbering system is not.

Why are all of us - me included - assuming a fifth round fullback will automatically make the team and be a big thumper? Is this the usual pre-pre-season optimism?

Yes. And boredom.

To prove my point, let me inform you that I am actually breathlessly waiting for KYPack to post his information on the fullback situation. I even went looking for the article I read about it last night, but failed to find it. This is not a normal state of affairs.

[cpk1994]

It is the down time, so if you're an NFL junkie, the Favre stuff is all there is. And it is kind of interesting...kind of a guy soap opera.

I did hear that James Jones is in great shape and MM is excited about him. Not in a sexual way, of course. In only the most manly of ways....

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

[BobDobbs]

Finally, who will be the late-round or undrafted FA who everyone thinks will surely get some snaps this season, based on OTA's or pre-season games, and then ends up on the practice squad, or worse yet, never heard from again?

There needs to be an award for that. I would say "The Michael Hawkins Award" but he didn't even look good in pre-season. He was just fast. Who was last year's training camp flash-in-the-pan?

Post draft speculation is a good time. We get to go off of highlight reels and interviews. Remember when James Jones was drafted and he had this massive highlight reel and then all of a sudden you notice, 'Hey he's just roasting one guy in the same game over and over."

I think Jarius Wynn is my early nomination for the Michael Hawkins Award. He'll get to make some plays against other fourth stringers and some press, but ultimately he'll be on the practice squad.

Another possible candidate is Brad Jones he's good with the media, excited about special teams, and as a linebacker he'll get a lot of opportunity to make some plays in the preseason. But, we're bringing back all our linebackers from last year, we've added Matthews, and some of our DL from last year are now LBs. Where is this guys roster spot?

Here's a question. Who's going to be this years sleeper pick. That can take a couple years to sort out, but every year someone comes to camp and outplays their draft status like Jennings did. Last year I'd say it was Sitton although I thought it would be Finley(ouch). This year I'm thinking Jamon Meredith is ready to surprise some people. He seemed really mature when I saw him interviewed and we really need an heir apparent at LT, so there is some hope mixed in there.

[Bossman641]

I like the suggestion of a Michael Hawkins award but suggest we rename it the Michael "Neon Deion" Hawkins award in honor of JH.

No harm meant JH.