Gil Brandt's comments on Ted Thompson

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I guess I don't buy the injury excuse. We lost A) Jenkins, who was largely ineffective due to injury in 2007, and B) Barnett, who was a real dynamo in 2007, and then C) Harris for a few weeks, but his replacement was more than adequate during this time.

The only real injury difference that I see was Barnett. He is definitely a difference maker, but a 7 game difference maker? Hard to say.

With that said, last year was a weird year and it will be nice to watch them bounce back this year. They have an easier schedule and should be expected to 9-7 at least, more likely 10-6.

My only small beef with teets is that he needs to draft a little bit better if he isn't going to supplement via FA. He is a pretty good drafter in the lower rounds by all accounts, but he needs some ozzie newsome magic to find a defensive stud. Hopefully, Raji or Matthews is that person and I can insert my foot into my mouth. That is the huge need of the team -- a defensive superstar to compliment Jennings on offensive.

[Pacopete4]

Re: Gil Brandt's comments on Ted Thompson

Eric, Bucks County 12:10 PM ET
If you owned a franchise who would you name as general manager and head coach? Who would you want as your quarterback? Gil Brandt, NFL.com

Gil Brandt:
Hi Eric. Well, I probably would want Bill Belichick as my head coach. I think I would want Ted Thompson of Green Bay as my general manager, and Peyton Manning as my quarterback.

gil brandt is one of the most respected, knowledgeable former personnel guys in the league.

i hope the packers fanbase realizes what we have in ole teddy.

Below .500 football during his run, some pretty good drafting and young players, a brand new defensive scheme after the first one didnt work, oh and ZERO superbowls... I'm a results person and so far they are not there.. the NFC championship game was nice, but if thats it... time to move on.

4-12 - I don't consider HIS fault...that's as much on Sherman as anyone
8-8 - Building blocks
13-3 - winning team ahead of schedule
6-10 - major injuries, faulty defensive calls, favre drama...

31-33 as a GM...take out the 4-12, and you're 27-21. as far as the new defensive scheme, um, HELLO...that's the Head Coaches job, NOT the GM's.

if you don't see what's he's truly done in building a solid young team for years to come, you need to move to Chicago and join their bandwagon. I just don't get how you don't see the benefits of what he's done here. I can't wait to revisit this thread at the end of next season, just to laugh at the anti-TT.

[channtheman]

Re: Gil Brandt's comments on Ted Thompson

TT hasn't led the Packers to the Super Bowl and won it every year, time to go. Never mind the foundation that he is laying down for the Packers to be a very good team in the long run.

[Pacopete4]

Re: Gil Brandt's comments on Ted Thompson

TT hasn't led the Packers to the Super Bowl and won it every year, time to go. Never mind the foundation that he is laying down for the Packers to be a very good team in the long run.

In which year will you say ok, thats enough.. he may be laying a foundation but he hasnt actually won. Please tell me after which year is it ok to hold TT to the standards of the other 31 NFL GM's?

[Tyrone Bigguns]

If the packers dont' win the superbowl each and every year i consider the season to be an abject failure.

[Joemailman]

I guess I don't buy the injury excuse. We lost A) Jenkins, who was largely ineffective due to injury in 2007, and B) Barnett, who was a real dynamo in 2007, and then C) Harris for a few weeks, but his replacement was more than adequate during this time.

The only real injury difference that I see was Barnett. He is definitely a difference maker, but a 7 game difference maker? Hard to say.

With that said, last year was a weird year and it will be nice to watch them bounce back this year. They have an easier schedule and should be expected to 9-7 at least, more likely 10-6.

I think the lack of a quality DC magnified the injury problem. Once Jenkins and KGB were gone (KGB was never really there), a good DC would have made major changes instead of continuing to line up in the same base defense all year. I also think moving Woodson to safety was a mistake. Sanders turned an all-pro cornerback into an average safety.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I largely agree with ND, but this is a big year for Thompson. If the Packers have a strong year, that's 2 out of 3, and the future is bright. If the Packers have another losing season, that's 2 in a row and a lot of questions are going to be raised.

Agreed. I think he gets two more years. If the team struggles this year, the heat will be on next year. For the people that don't like Thompson, what if the Packers make the playoffs this year?

[cheesner]

oh my, i cant believe i cheer for the same team as you two...

what did I say that's incorrect? I'm not a huge fan of how TT is doing things but I'll give him this season to turn it around or I want him gone. I'm sure there are a lot more Packer fans that feel the same way.

Giving him a year? Seems like you have been on his ass for 3 years already.

It is the irrationality of the blind bitterness that comes across in your posts that is disconcerting. It is like people posting very negative things about Favre. Yes Brett did have some bad points, and some choose to be negative and dwell on them. But overall he was a great QB and a great Packer.

[cheesner]

I guess I don't buy the injury excuse. We lost A) Jenkins, who was largely ineffective due to injury in 2007, and B) Barnett, who was a real dynamo in 2007, and then C) Harris for a few weeks, but his replacement was more than adequate during this time.

The only real injury difference that I see was Barnett. He is definitely a difference maker, but a 7 game difference maker? Hard to say.

With that said, last year was a weird year and it will be nice to watch them bounce back this year. They have an easier schedule and should be expected to 9-7 at least, more likely 10-6.

I think the lack of a quality DC magnified the injury problem. Once Jenkins and KGB were gone (KGB was never really there), a good DC would have made major changes instead of continuing to line up in the same base defense all year. I also think moving Woodson to safety was a mistake. Sanders turned an all-pro cornerback into an average safety.

We will soon find out. Seems like 2 years ago they were on the verge of being dominating - top 10 defense. Not sure why that didn't happen, but the injuries I am sure where a huge impact.

[Pacopete4]

oh my, i cant believe i cheer for the same team as you two...

what did I say that's incorrect? I'm not a huge fan of how TT is doing things but I'll give him this season to turn it around or I want him gone. I'm sure there are a lot more Packer fans that feel the same way.

Giving him a year? Seems like you have been on his ass for 3 years already.

It is the irrationality of the blind bitterness that comes across in your posts that is disconcerting. It is like people posting very negative things about Favre. Yes Brett did have some bad points, and some choose to be negative and dwell on them. But overall he was a great QB and a great Packer.

I'll break down my post for you:


Below .500 football during his run- yes, he is under .500 as an NFL GM. He did inherit an over paid team on the decline, but still under .500.. which is not good! I have seen other GM's build while still making the playoffs, having winning seasons ect...

some pretty good drafting and young players- a great thing about TT. Even though he might biffed on Harrell, hes made some great draft picks and got us some good young talent.

a brand new defensive scheme after the first one didnt work- Part of the GM's job is to get in a coach/coaching staff that does the job. Well he's already failed on the defensive side of the ball whether it was McCarthy's pick or not, does not matter.. cuz guess who hired McCarthy... TT! Now thats not saying this move right here wont work and it'll be the best thing for Packer football since good ole #4 was traded for but it could also be like the zone blocking scheme and suck balls

oh and ZERO superbowls... he has had 4 seasons now. Time is going against him. Like I said.. I'm a results guy and so far, there really hasnt been the results of this great plan he put in place. We've only made the playoffs ONE of his FOUR seasons here. That is NOT GOOD.

Like I said, if the NFC championship game was our high point and we struggle again this season.. time to move on and bring in someone who will do a better job.

Now if TT's plan works out and we start actually winning, then awesome... I'm happy. But don't put your friggin head in the sand and pretend like all is well in Packer land when its really not.

[Bretsky]

I largely agree with ND, but this is a big year for Thompson. If the Packers have a strong year, that's 2 out of 3, and the future is bright. If the Packers have another losing season, that's 2 in a row and a lot of questions are going to be raised.

Agreed. I think he gets two more years. If the team struggles this year, the heat will be on next year. For the people that don't like Thompson, what if the Packers make the playoffs this year?

Not sure if I fall into that category; but playoffs are an expectation this year
I'm not sure we should hail TT for just getting there unless that's the goal.

If we make them, as we should expect them to, then it appears we are headed in the right directions toward the goal that puts TTT in elite territory

[Tyrone Bigguns]

[quote="Pacopete4"]
Below .500 football during his run- yes, he is under .500 as an NFL GM. He did inherit an over paid team on the decline, but still under .500.. which is not good! I have seen other GM's build while still making the playoffs, having winning seasons ect...

[/quote="Pacopete4"]

Examples please.

[packers04]

good discussion i love it!

[ThunderDan]

[quote="Pacopete4"]
oh and ZERO superbowls... he has had 4 seasons now. Time is going against him. Like I said.. I'm a results guy and so far, there really hasnt been the results of this great plan he put in place. We've only made the playoffs ONE of his FOUR seasons here. That is NOT GOOD.
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How many Superbowls has New England won in the last 4 years? Time to fire their GM. How about Dallas, Baltimore or Philly? Can them all!!! What shitty football teams!!!

edit: Getting Quotes Right

[Lurker64]

I have to say, I trust Gil Brandt's ability to evaluate general managers more than I trust the ability of anybody here.

Gil Brandt knows football.