NFN North Records 2009

[hoosier]

Minny 10-6 with BF or 12-4 without
Muppets of the Midway 8-8
Packers 7-9
Detroit 4-12

Sigh. Another long year!

fixed.

[bbbffl66]

Minny 10-6 with BF or 12-4 without
Muppets of the Midway 8-8
Packers 7-9
Detroit 4-12

Sigh. Another long year!

fixed.

C'mon, do you really think Sage or Tjack would do better than BF?

[hoosier]

Minny 10-6 with BF or 12-4 without
Muppets of the Midway 8-8
Packers 7-9
Detroit 4-12

Sigh. Another long year!

fixed.

C'mon, do you really think Sage or Tjack would do better than BF?

I think the Vikings will do better with a "game manager" at QB than with a gun slinger who's over the hill and probably isn't willing to change his game to accomodate his physical limitations. In that light, I think Favre will hurt them more than help them, and that the Vikings would be much more dangerous as a run-first team that protects the ball. Of course my position is based on the assumption that either Jackson or Sage can play that role effectively. The fly in the ointment is that neither has proven he can do it for an entire year: Jackson because he's been wildly inconsistent and Sage because he sometimes plays out of control. If I had to bet, I would bet that Chilly could probably control Sage but not Favre.

[ThunderDan]

Packers 11-5
Minnesota 10-6
Chicago 8-8
Detroit 4-12

I don't think Favre makes a difference in the Viqueens record. They will be a run dominant team next year no matter who is the QB.

[Cornholio]

Minnesota 12-4(with Favre) 10-6 without
Chicago 10-6
Green Bay 7-9
Detroit 5-11

If you don't honestly believe that Favre won't make a big difference in Minnesota then you didn't watch any of the 1st 11 Jets games last year. With a healthy Favre he took a team that was 4-12 with the worst scoring offense in the league from the year before to an 8-3 record with the #2 scoring offense in the league. Once he hurt his arm, you saw everything went down hill from there. With Minnesota's O-line and dominant running game, you could place any QB who's decent in there and they are going to be an offensive juggernaut. The Packers haven't done a single thing to improve this off season. Switching to the 3-4 is going to take a good portion of the year for the players to finally feel good in the system and to start running it 100%. Couple that with issues on the O-line and a sub par running game I don't believe there is going to be a lot of improvement from last year to this year.

[Pacopete4]

Minnesota 12-4(with Favre) 10-6 without
Chicago 10-6
Green Bay 7-9
Detroit 5-11

If you don't honestly believe that Favre won't make a big difference in Minnesota then you didn't watch any of the 1st 11 Jets games last year. With a healthy Favre he took a team that was 4-12 with the worst scoring offense in the league from the year before to an 8-3 record with the #2 scoring offense in the league. Once he hurt his arm, you saw everything went down hill from there. With Minnesota's O-line and dominant running game, you could place any QB who's decent in there and they are going to be an offensive juggernaut. The Packers haven't done a single thing to improve this off season. Switching to the 3-4 is going to take a good portion of the year for the players to finally feel good in the system and to start running it 100%. Couple that with issues on the O-line and a sub par running game I don't believe there is going to be a lot of improvement from last year to this year.

Favre make a difference? No way! He's only going to be 40, hes a washed up girl who's only in it for the attention anymore! sigh...

[Scott Campbell]

Once he hurt his arm, you saw everything went down hill from there.

It's nice how people make excuses for his massive stretch run choke job.

[pbmax]

... With a healthy Favre ...

At least this recognizes the risk. And I am glad we can assign all the improvements to the Jets O to one man, and not any of the other changes. Nor does playing better defense help either, because field position is nothing compared to a starting QB. And of course the Jet's didn't have a healthy Pennington for most of 2007 (or several other parts on Offense), but why mention that when trying to prove a point. Stupid context, always messing up a good argument.

[Lurker64]

Personally, I say:

Green Bay 10-6
Minnesota 10-6
Chicago 10-6
Detroit 3-13

Damned if I know who's going to win the tiebreakers though...

[The Shadow]

[quote="Scott Campbell"]

Once he hurt his arm, you saw everything went down hill from there.

It's nice how people make excuses for his massive stretch run choke job.[/quote]

The receivers must have started running the wrong routes again.

[cpk1994]

[quote="The Shadow"]

Once he hurt his arm, you saw everything went down hill from there.

It's nice how people make excuses for his massive stretch run choke job.[/quote]

The receivers must have started running the wrong routes again.

OR the ball just slipped out of Brett's hands. Or maybe his thumb is still injured. Mike Sherman must have relatives on this board.

[ThunderDan]

Minnesota 12-4(with Favre) 10-6 without
Chicago 10-6
Green Bay 7-9
Detroit 5-11

If you don't honestly believe that Favre won't make a big difference in Minnesota then you didn't watch any of the 1st 11 Jets games last year.

I really don't. Minnesota is going to be a run dominant team that runs clock and grinds its opponents down. If they don't Childress should be fired. That is what their team is set-up to do. All they need is a game manager not a gun slinger.

[Fritz]

Minnesota 12-4(with Favre) 10-6 without
Chicago 10-6
Green Bay 7-9
Detroit 5-11

If you don't honestly believe that Favre won't make a big difference in Minnesota then you didn't watch any of the 1st 11 Jets games last year. With a healthy Favre he took a team that was 4-12 with the worst scoring offense in the league from the year before to an 8-3 record with the #2 scoring offense in the league. Once he hurt his arm, you saw everything went down hill from there. With Minnesota's O-line and dominant running game, you could place any QB who's decent in there and they are going to be an offensive juggernaut. The Packers haven't done a single thing to improve this off season. Switching to the 3-4 is going to take a good portion of the year for the players to finally feel good in the system and to start running it 100%. Couple that with issues on the O-line and a sub par running game I don't believe there is going to be a lot of improvement from last year to this year.

I'm sorry, I can't help myself:

Cornholio, Cornholio, wherefore art thou Cornholio?