Donald Driver unhappy. Wants a new deal.

[cpk1994]

If there was a thread in the romper room about middle east peace, would it get turned into a Favre thread somehow?

It really does get tiresome, doesn't it?

Yes. So let's try to get this back on track: Anybody have a plausible theory as to why Driver is staying away? If it's about money, why is his agent - the person authorized to talk about money and represent Driver - saying it's not? And who are these "sources" that say it is about money?

Or maybe its simply that the sources are wrong. It wouldn't be the first time this offeason. Hell ESPN has been burned reporting something that wasn't happening.

[pbmax]

According to The JSO Driver's Agent is on record as saying "The Contract is not an issue." Is this agent-doubletalk or is the media trying to make something out of nothing?

The answer depends on what else the agent actually said. Because what Lurker quotes here is Bedard's summary and not a direct quote from Agent Woy.

His only quote in the piece tells us where Donald is, that this is not a mandatory camp and that the Packers know this. I think I could get a more relevant quote from Baghdad Bob.

[pbmax]

What would be the salary cap implications of an extension? If none of it or little of it was guaranteed, it would provide no security to Driver, then - so what would be the point for him? If there was guaranteed money, then would you be heading to sal cap trouble?

I'm sure there would be some signing bonus, but if its just a few million dollars it won't have any huge cap implication. Just a few million means a lot more to a player like Driver who hasn't had a huge contract, than it does to the Packers. It also gives him that little bit of security that if he continues to play well, he at least has a contract. Beyond that there is no security for an NFL player.

Funny how a few million dollars - which would be a life-altering piece of income for me and most people here - would be, for Driver, just a little bit of feel-good security money.

But I'd be okay if the Pack did it. Driver has proven he'll work hard when he's well paid.

I would doubt that Packers, given his age, will extend him. But that doesn't mean he won't get another bump. A sizable increase or extension would only be likely if they really don't see a dropoff coming for Donald. But any money paid to Donald this year or next makes it a tighter fit to resign Jennings, Collins and Williams to long term deals.

[Gunakor]

rumor has it the Queens need help at WR ?

Could be one of the most prolific QB to WR combos playing for da purple

LOL

Wow.....then peeps would have to dig deep to find hate on Driver....just like Favre.....they'd be workin overtime!! :P

Rediculous. We couldn't have been any more clear that the hate of Favre has nothing to do with his not playing for the Packers anymore. Has anybody understood at all what the debate has been about? Anyone???

Nobody will hate on Driver if he doesn't go to the national media to air his dirty laundry, doesn't have friends and family speaking on his behalf, doesn't publicly label the Packers a dishonest organization, doesn't vow revenge, etc.

[Gunakor]

What would be the salary cap implications of an extension? If none of it or little of it was guaranteed, it would provide no security to Driver, then - so what would be the point for him? If there was guaranteed money, then would you be heading to sal cap trouble?

I'm sure there would be some signing bonus, but if its just a few million dollars it won't have any huge cap implication. Just a few million means a lot more to a player like Driver who hasn't had a huge contract, than it does to the Packers. It also gives him that little bit of security that if he continues to play well, he at least has a contract. Beyond that there is no security for an NFL player.

Funny how a few million dollars - which would be a life-altering piece of income for me and most people here - would be, for Driver, just a little bit of feel-good security money.

But I'd be okay if the Pack did it. Driver has proven he'll work hard when he's well paid.

I would doubt that Packers, given his age, will extend him. But that doesn't mean he won't get another bump. A sizable increase or extension would only be likely if they really don't see a dropoff coming for Donald. But any money paid to Donald this year or next makes it a tighter fit to resign Jennings, Collins and Williams to long term deals.

I think they'll be fine. Rodgers cap number drops significantly next season, so there's an extra 5-6 million already right there. Clifton's contract will be up as well, and I don't see them resigning him to anything special. This season they seem to have enough dough to extend certain players they don't want to reach FA after the season, and will have plenty to play with next year with big money coming off the books. They'll be able to get deals done for the guys they want to keep, even if they have to bump Drivers salary a tad. Driver is still an important piece to our WR corps, and I'm sure TT will get something done for him as he has in the past.

Beyond that, Driver seems like the type of guy who would make concessions of his own if needed to make this a championship caliber team before he retires, so if money does become tight, I'd fully expect Driver to help the team out as long as it looks like the Packers are close.

[RashanGary]

And let the record show that 2/3 of all Favre threads are started by Favre lovers ( http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/vi...7631&start=160 )

Also, 007 is numero uno in line to bitch when Favre makes his next big screw up that everyone wants to talk about (next time he gets in front of the microphone if anyone enjoys good prognostication). She comes in on her broomstick (and everyone sniffs her butt because she has a girl avatar), complaining about how nobody can drop the Favre issue (only convenient when Favre is burying himself with idiocy). Then, at dead times like this, she's here stirring the pot in a Driver thread.

I have no complaint. I enjoy the Favre stuff, 'specially since he's getting what he deserves lately. I'd just like it to be noted, you know, to keep the witch from her typical manipulation. Remember, she only talks about Favre and gambling lines in the Packer room and it's a great majority Favre.

[retailguy]

If there was a thread in the romper room about middle east peace, would it get turned into a Favre thread somehow?

It'd get moved to FYI and THEN it would become about Favre. He's a liberal, you knew that, right? :P

[GrnBay007]

And let the record show that 2/3 of all Favre threads are started by Favre lovers ( http://www.packerrats.com/ratchat/vi...7631&start=160 )

Also, 007 is numero uno in line to bitch when Favre makes his next big screw up that everyone wants to talk about (next time he gets in front of the microphone if anyone enjoys good prognostication). She comes in on her broomstick (and everyone sniffs her butt because she has a girl avatar), complaining about how nobody can drop the Favre issue (only convenient when Favre is burying himself with idiocy). Then, at dead times like this, she's here stirring the pot in a Driver thread.

I have no complaint. I enjoy the Favre stuff, 'specially since he's getting what he deserves lately. I'd just like it to be noted, you know, to keep the witch from her typical manipulation. Remember, she only talks about Favre and gambling lines in the Packer room and it's a great majority Favre.

"Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life." ~Eric Hoffer

[RashanGary]

"Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life." ~Eric Hoffer

"It is easier to live through someone else than to complete yourself. The freedom to lead and plan your own life is frightening if you have never faced it before. It is frightening when a woman finally realizes that there is no answer to the question 'who am I' except the voice inside herself." — Betty Friedan

[CaptainKickass]

"Passionate hatred can give meaning and purpose to an empty life." ~Eric Hoffer

"It is easier to live through someone else than to complete yourself. The freedom to lead and plan your own life is frightening if you have never faced it before. It is frightening when a woman finally realizes that there is no answer to the question 'who am I' except the voice inside herself." — Betty Friedan

"Don't you dare make me pull this internet forum over......" - Captain Kickass



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[woodbuck27]

rumor has it the Queens need help at WR ?

Could be one of the most prolific QB to WR combos playing for da purple

Just as I was imagining. Can Ted stand the heat?

[woodbuck27]

He's trouble and must be cut. Good Packer? Who cares. Throw him away since he has a beef with the Packers. I hope you realize how ridiculous the above sounds, and how many of you sound when you post here.

It's a HARD bunch.

[The Leaper]

I love Driver...but the guy should show up and work his ass off, because I think both Jones and Nelson could prove better than Driver by the end of this season.

Driver has no leverage. He has no upside potential, and probably has already started to decline. Green Bay has 2 promising WRs behind him...and IMO, both have the talent and enough experience to supplant Driver at some point this season.

I have been thinking Driver was going to trend downward this season. This only confirms it for me. His head isn't in the right spot, and it will hurt him.

[Stevogbfan]

I love Driver...but the guy should show up and work his ass off, because I think both Jones and Nelson could prove better than Driver by the end of this season.

Driver has no leverage. He has no upside potential, and probably has already started to decline. Green Bay has 2 promising WRs behind him...and IMO, both have the talent and enough experience to supplant Driver at some point this season.

I have been thinking Driver was going to trend downward this season. This only confirms it for me. His head isn't in the right spot, and it will hurt him.

that's why i think this whole thing is just the media doing it's thing, we don't have much to talk about so let's start something

[Packerarcher]

He probably is just preparing for the inevitable showing to the door TT will give him. So many of use the no single player is greater than the team line. Well that goes triple for the GM,guess what guys/gals. If TT continues to screw over notable vetrans,this team will ALWAYS be rebuilding as long as he runs it.