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  • #16
    Originally posted by Bretsky
    Originally posted by Patler
    Originally posted by Bretsky
    up to this point my view of Jermey Thompson is not that high so I sure hope Matthews is better than he is
    I have been a bit intrigued by Jeremy Thompson, if for no other reason than that Ted Thompson actually thought enough of him to trade up for him. Most unusual.

    I hope he fits the 3-4 well enough to beat out Mathews!
    But that would mean we pissed away all those picks to move up for a backup
    Ah, but Brett, even if Clay starts as you wish, and JT goes to the bench that would mean we pissed away all those picks to move up for a backup
    Snake's Twitter comments would be LEGENDARY.........if I was ugly or gave a shit about Twitter.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Bretsky
      Originally posted by Patler
      Originally posted by Bretsky
      up to this point my view of Jermey Thompson is not that high so I sure hope Matthews is better than he is
      I have been a bit intrigued by Jeremy Thompson, if for no other reason than that Ted Thompson actually thought enough of him to trade up for him. Most unusual.

      I hope he fits the 3-4 well enough to beat out Mathews!

      But that would mean we pissed away all those picks to move up for a backup
      He is going to play on all the ST's and based on last year that will be a nice improvement.
      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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      • #18
        Kampman may not be here in 2010. Matthews and Thompson may be the starters after this year.
        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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        • #19
          I like Thompson - as a RDE; just as I like Kampman - as a LDE. I don't like either one of them as LB's.

          Kampman is their best front seven player, and has to be on the field... but he's going to be playing out of position if they are going to be dropping him into coverage.

          Beyond that, with Thompson on the other side.... if he is, in fact, the starter at ROLB, now you've got two DE's playing out of position at LB... and ROLB is traditionally the predominant rush LB in a 3-4... definitely going to be some growing pains.
          wist

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          • #20
            Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
            Kampman may not be here in 2010. Matthews and Thompson may be the starters after this year.
            Exactly. AK is a dominant 4-3 end. Remains to seen if AK can remain dominant in a new role.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by rbaloha
              Exactly. AK is a dominant 4-3 end. Remains to seen if AK can remain dominant in a new role.
              That wasn't really my point. My point is that he'll be a free agent after this season.
              "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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              • #22
                Re: Defensive Front Seven

                Originally posted by pbmax
                Here's a reason to celebrate for all you Jeremy Thompson lovers on the board:

                Originally posted by [url=http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/ic/blogs/insider/2009/05/blitz-open-ota-no-1.html
                Green Bay Press Gazette[/url]]* From a depth chart perspective, the most intriguing sight was second-year pro Jeremy Thompson working at right outside linebacker with the starting defense -- while Brady Poppinga worked with the twos. Poppinga and rookie first-round pick Clay Matthews, who sat out with a strained hamstring, have been the presumptive candidates to compete for the rightside job. But Thompson appears to be getting a long look, and he earned an excited helmet slap from OLBs coach Kevin Greene after dropping into coverage on one play.

                * With DE Cullen Jenkins (ankle) and SS Atari Bigby (ankle) sitting out team drills, the front seven with the No. 1 base defense was: LE B.J. Raji, NT Ryan Pickett, RE Justin Harrell, LOLB Aaron Kampman, ILB A.J. Hawk, ILB Brandon Chillar and ROLB Thompson.
                It would seem like Matthews would take this spot back after his hammy heals, but Poppinga appears to have taken a step back. And I must admit, even though I desperately want Jenkins back healthy, I am a bit excited about Raji and Harrell on the field together with Pickett.
                Hurt me, hurt me. Make me feel like the cheap piece of linebacker that I am, Mr. Greene!
                "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                KYPack

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                • #23
                  From today's Green Bay Press Gazette's Nick Barnett article, we finally have the official word on the names for the two inside backers.

                  Originally posted by [url=http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20090606/PKR01/90606026/1058
                  Green Bay Press Gazette - By Rob Demovsky, June 6, 2009[/url]]He’s moving to one of the inside linebackers in Capers’ 3-4 system. Capers calls the inside positions the “mack,” or the weak-side spot, and the “buck,” or the strong-side spot, in the base defense. Barnett will play the “mack” in the base defense.
                  I think we had noted these positions would be Mike and Jack, but here is some indication of what the team is using. This earth shattering news is brought to you by: The Department of Sound and Fury Signifying Nothing.
                  Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                  • #24
                    I think they should call the positions the "Nick" and the "AJ."

                    Or maybe the "Desmond" and the "Brandon."
                    "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                    KYPack

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Fritz
                      I think they should call the positions the "Nick" and the "AJ."

                      Or maybe the "Desmond" and the "Brandon."
                      If we go off some of their play in the last season, how about "Jack and Jill"?
                      Or Tom and Jerry. How about Mickey and Mouse?
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #26
                        I know AK74 helped out Rodgers immensely his first couple of years in the league. Now, it's time for the mentor to help the teacher. They are good friends. There are other tidbits in the article.



                        Rodgers likes 3-4 for Kampman: For his part, Aaron Kampman did not hear about the radio interview with Aaron Rodgers recently in which the quarterback said Kampman should be excited about playing in the new 3-4 defense. Yesterday, Kampman reiterated that he was just focused on learning the new scheme.

                        But Rodgers is advocating the merits of the 3-4 for his friend in the interview (about 5:00 in) with Milwaukee's ESPN radio (this is the Madison link): “Him being disappointed about the 3-4 switch, he obviously doesn’t understand how it would help him out. I have a statistic for you. How many sacks has Aaron Kampman had in base defense over the last two years? I believe the number is less than three. Most sacks come in sub which is nickel defense, we bring in the extra corner, the (offense) brings in a third receiver. The 3-4 is strictly a base defense. We go in sub, they’re a four-down team. Why would you not be excited about a defense switch where you’re going to have an opportunity with us bringing more guys to have more one-on-one matchups in base? … Yeah occasionally you’re going to be out covering, but why would you not be excited about more opportunities in base?”
                        "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                        • #27
                          Well said by Air Rod. Kamp is going to be doing everything exactly the same as far as how he's gotten his sacks. He's going to get even more opportunities in base. No matter what happens, unless Kamp takes a step back in his pass rushing ability, he's going to get monster sacks. If he struggles in the few coverage opportunites, then the team taht pays him will be a 4-3. If he excells all the way around, his value only goes up.
                          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                          • #28
                            At least we finally found out Who's the Mack.

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