Vince Young - Stud, or Dud?

[Scott Campbell]

There have been compelling arguments made on both sides of the Vince Young issue, and I'm curious to see what PackerRats posters think now that they've carefully weighed both arguments.

May the best logic win.

[Bossman641]

Re: Vince Young - Stud, or Dud?

There have been compelling arguments made on both sides of the Vince Young issue

Can you kindly point me towards the compelling pro VY arguments? I must have missed those.

[MJZiggy]

Re: Vince Young - Stud, or Dud?

There have been compelling arguments made on both sides of the Vince Young issue

Can you kindly point me towards the compelling pro VY arguments? I must have missed those.

He played well in college.

[sheepshead]

I never thought he would have much of a pro career. Still dont.

[cpk1994]

I never thought he would have much of a pro career. Still dont.

This.

[]{ilr]3]

He's too dumb to be an NFL QB.

[Scott Campbell]

This thing is just too close to call. Like Al Franken in Minnesota, it may take a recount to sort it all out.

[Bossman641]

These results scream playmaker. I can't decide if Partial has voted yet though.

[th87]

He'll need to diversify his game to be successful. He caught defenses napping in his first year. Remember, when the NFL first saw Vick, they didn't know how to defend him either. Same with the wildcat offense.

Give coordinators an offseason to deal with such gimmicks, and watch them disappear.

[vince]

{ilr]3]He's too dumb to be an NFL QB.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/draft/2006-03-01-young-wonderlic_x.htm

Will Wonderlic cause teams to wonder about Young?
By Pete Dougherty, Green Bay Press-Gazette and Jim Wyatt, The Tennessean

INDIANAPOLIS — Vince Young's horribly low score on the Wonderlic intelligence test — reportedly 6 of a possible 50 — has given teams at the top of the NFL Draft plenty of extra work to do. It also might end up changing how the picks fall at the top of the first round.

Going into the NFL Scouting Combine, the junior quarterback from Texas looked certain to be one of the top four picks. But after scoring so poorly on the Wonderlic, Young's status as a top-5 or even top-10 pick could be in jeopardy.

ProFootballTalk.com broke the story of Young's score Sunday, and several NFL scouts confirmed it. Any score less than 15 is extremely low for a quarterback, and most teams want players at that position to score at least a 20.

"It raises a huge red flag," said Jeep Chryst, a former NFL assistant attending the combine as an at-large scout.

The NFL did its best to silence talk about Young's test. Combine officials said the score of 6 was inaccurate. Titans GM Floyd Reese said he'd heard the first test had been administered or graded incorrectly. Texans GM Charley Casserly also disputed Young's score Sunday, saying it was inaccurate.

Young took the test again — on Sunday — and made a 16.

Still, teams will have to determine Young's ability to grasp a complex NFL playbook.

[Scott Campbell]

He scored better on the Wonderlic than he did in this poll.

[Oscar]

He scored better on the Wonderlic than he is in this poll.

[]{ilr]3]

See if you are smarter than Vince Young

http://www.angelfire.com/fl3/existence/wonderlic.html

I scored 25 (Average) and I kick myself for missing the ones that I did trying to maintain the time limit. Even if the questions were different, I would expect to score higher if I were to take the test again like VY was allowed to.

This is not the complete test, just a sample.

[Tyrone Bigguns]

Ty has taken the wonderlic. It isn't that hard, but then again Ty is fairly bright. I scored a 41, after a hard night of drinking, 4 hours of sleep, and not knowing i was gonna take it. I took it again recently...scored a 37...Ty is getting dumber every year (taking away cheap shot chances)...no suprise to many rat posters.

A six or 16 ain't good. One has to wonder how he got thru his rigorous UT classes.

That type of score is borderline for admittance to a junior college..the type that churns out medical assitants, massage therapist, surgical tech. I had a friend who worked as an admissions counselor at the high tech institute...also known as Bryman..in Orlando.

http://www.hightechinstitute.edu/

Regaled me with stories of potential students that couldn't score....think it was around 13 or so to get in...and he had to help them cheat to get in. Admission is a sales job...you gotta get them in..or you are fired.

Just in case any rats were up at night and thinking about switching careers..you better have the score to get in.

Here is the world renowned West Coast College:http://www.wccollege.com/catalog/Sch...Jan%202006.pdf

All applicants must pass the Wonderlic Scholastic Level Exam (SLE) with a minimum score of 13. The Wonderlic SLE is a nationally recognized “Ability to Benefit” test.

they require a 13. VY upon initial testing couldn't even get in there.

[The Leaper]

He doesn't impress me as the kind of guy who is going to put in the film work needed to be an NFL QB. He got by on athletic ability alone for 20 years...and ultimately that will become his downfall.