If Quinn Johnson performed really well in training camp would people be swayed towards Lumpkin?
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Just because you call somebody lazy doesn't make it true. Edgar Bennett often praised Wynn's progress and efforts last training camp.Originally posted by retailguyAgree about the upside, but I'd rather have a hard worker with limited upside, than a lazy guy with all the talent in the world .
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I'd say Lumkin is the better receiver.Originally posted by sheepsheadIs Wynn a better receiver? I havent seen enough of either guy to know for sure.
Wynn = Gator
Lumpkin = Bulldog
Hard for me to do this.......I'm going with Lumpkin. He runs very hard and has more upside. Better on special teams as well?
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I tend to agree with you, but young guys who don't work out can and do change. Is Wynn that guy?? Not sure, only time will tell, but its not the same as a lazy shelf stocker changing his work ethic.Originally posted by retailguyIt is pretty tough for guys with a poor work ethic to change. Doesn't happen very often.Originally posted by bobbleheadI bashed wynn last preseason, but the time on the practice squad seems to have given him a taste of life without being handed things.
His upside is WAY higher than Lumpkin so I'm hoping he is over his PMS and ready to play like a man.
Pretty sure that when the rubber meets the road, Wynn will prove he hasn't changed.
Agree about the upside, but I'd rather have a hard worker with limited upside, than a lazy guy with all the talent in the world.
My vote goes to Lumpkin, could change based on what we see and hear in the preseason.
What we are talking about here is a guy who got cut and no one signed last year. The actual realization that for the first time in his life his talent alone won't cut it and his options are 400k + a year or stocking said shelfs he may make the change...not saying he will, but I would have to know him in depth to make that guess.The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi
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Originally posted by rbalohaTough call. Wynn's attitude has really improved along with his body. Ability to pickup the blitz slightly moves Wynn ahead of Lumpkin.
I'm not trying to be a dick here but how in the world could u possible know that?
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The article referenced in the first post of this thread read:Originally posted by Pacopete4I'm not trying to be a dick here but how in the world could u possible know that?Originally posted by rbalohaTough call. Wynn's attitude has really improved along with his body. Ability to pickup the blitz slightly moves Wynn ahead of Lumpkin.
DeShawn Wynn: Perhaps the best of the bunch at blitz pickup and pass protection, Wynn showed just how valuable he can be in that department last season."There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson
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:P I recognize that I bashed your boy Harlan, but c'mon, how many of these guys change their work ethic? Really?Originally posted by Harlan HucklebyJust because you call somebody lazy doesn't make it true. Edgar Bennett often praised Wynn's progress and efforts last training camp.Originally posted by retailguyAgree about the upside, but I'd rather have a hard worker with limited upside, than a lazy guy with all the talent in the world .
Maybe Edgar was just trying to motivate the guy? Hell, I'm not there and I don't know, but that wouldn't be the first time words were used to "try" and motivate someone.
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Et tu Fritz?Originally posted by FritzPatler, I'm totally with you on this one. One of the other coots (PB? KY?) and I (a middle-aged coot myself) have long agreed that it'd be nice to see the "other" running back...
First time I have ever been called an old coot. At least it was by someone who hasn't seen me.
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Some consider this development, the threat of both running backs catching passes, to be one of the key developments in the Walsh Offense. Walsh loved that this threat would open up running lanes later in the game.Originally posted by KYPackHaving a 2 RB tandem would help the passing game to an extent. A quick back who could run an effective route in the seam would help against the modern zone. That backside seam can be exploited and most teams do that quite well vs the cover 2. MM is an offensive thinker that runs a lot of seam and shallow cross routes. 2 backs would give him another tool.
Walsh Offense: A Contrarian ViewBud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.
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I judge people by their avatars, PB. You look like Fritz Shurmur, a true old coot, in yours. Patler is a smart, professorial-looking cartoon beagle. KY looks like Harlan Sanders in a jogging suit and coaching whistle. Waldo is a bifocal-wearing simian, and GB007 is a cartoon hottie, as is the silhouetted MJ Ziggy.Originally posted by pbmaxEt tu Fritz?Originally posted by FritzPatler, I'm totally with you on this one. One of the other coots (PB? KY?) and I (a middle-aged coot myself) have long agreed that it'd be nice to see the "other" running back...
First time I have ever been called an old coot. At least it was by someone who hasn't seen me.
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Makes my life easy. Makes me unsure I ever really want to meet any of you for real. I'm sure you're all fine people, but I'm not sure what I'd do if Deputy Nutz didn't look like a cheesy porn star in real life.
As for the fullback thing, we're in agreement. But if Wynn and Lumpkin both make it, can we call them "Wynnkin"?/ Or would that be "Lumpwynn"?"The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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Tough call here. Both were among the highest rated RB's in the nation coming out of high school. Lumpkin was 2nd only to Reggie Bush. Wynn has had his injury problems with the Packers, perhaps due in part to lack of conditioning his first year. Lumpkin had numerous injury problems at Georgia, and got hurt last year with the Packers. The battle could come down to which one can make it through training camp healthy. I give the edge to Wynn because he seemed to turn a corner last year in terms of his conditioning, and he had a 100 yard game to close the season.I can't run no more
With that lawless crowd
While the killers in high places
Say their prayers out loud
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
A thundercloud
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This one is too tough to call. Like joe said, both guys were high potential prospects that had tough times in college. Both are big, fast backs that can make guys miss.
I voted Wynn because he looks to be in great shape this year and I've always thought he was a good runner. It could go a number of ways. Regardless of how it turns out, I think the Packers have good depth at RB. I'm definitely open to keeping one FB and 4 RB's too. Lumpkin looks like the best bet to play backup FB.Formerly known as JustinHarrell.
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I know, I know. But I'm leaning toward "Lumpwynn" myself.Originally posted by JustinHarrellThis one is too tough to call. Like joe said, both guys were high potential prospects that had tough times in college. Both are big, fast backs that can make guys miss.
I voted Wynn because he looks to be in great shape this year and I've always thought he was a good runner. It could go a number of ways. Regardless of how it turns out, I think the Packers have good depth at RB. I'm definitely open to keeping one FB and 4 RB's too. Lumpkin looks like the best bet to play backup FB."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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